Sneha -- We have tried enouf-CANT HELP - Page 6

Originally posted by: Mimoha

Secondly, I agree that regardless of the industry/nature of project whenever estimation is done for resources, a contingency needs to be built up to accommodate sudden changes of the remit from client. That is project management. Normally contingency for changes in the remit from client or unforeseen circumstances is in the range of 15%-20% . Even after contingency, vendors/suppliers are accomodative to 5-10% extent but here time commitment went up by 50-65% (66.66% to be precise). That to me is indicative of complete change in remit by Sony for whatever reason. If the originally calculated 12 days include a 15% contingency then some one at Director's Kut should loose his job.

Regarding accommodation, I would say to each his own.

Absolutely agree SET intervened too late.

Originally posted by: Mimoha

I am unable to take Sneha on face value. My two cents.

If health is the only reason, Sony and Production House are the real culprits... Sneha can not admit that Sony's decision and/or Production House's miscalculation played a role in aggravating his medical condition.

Creative difference vis-a-vis story and treatment could be / appears to be one of the reasons but again she can not admit this too. ..., she can not admit it in public because Sony and PH are more at fault.

Whichever way one looks at this mess, Sony and Production House come across more at fault. Sneha does not have any other option but to present this as MB's decision to save face and make the replacement acceptable to viewers. MB does not have any option either but to play along for his long term professional interests.

I agree absolutely with you..Both the sides normally present themselves and show the other one in bad light...whatever Sneha must be talking...when one finger (how much ever politely) showing towards MB, four are showing back...She is exactly following the strategy which is the normal behaviour of any head...why only Sneha.. you & me...we all do the same...I say, Sneha's words are not clear...it is actually the blame game...and repeating the same over and again...nothing new...

...when Sneha says, MB is not cooperating with their over-accommodative solutions..From MB side,...why he is not telling what is his say on this?...if MB is truly not at fault, this is all misleading...

All about those creatives problems or over stretching of the work schedules were pointed out earlier in his FB posts...why Sneha or someone else didnt say anything at that time?

whatever may be the cause of the split, both of them knew the repercussions...
The story is facing the problem at this juncture...All these numbers, pointing fingers at each other, competition of 'who can politely blame others', 'who can keep mum longer', strategies or content changes do not work in a (supposed to be) a love story.

Also bringing someone at this point is a huge task for SONY, acting at the level of MB is a huge task for a new comer immediately and the bad reputation that MB has to face in this show business will be a challenging & greater task for MB as he has to work his tooth and nail against it if he has to live in this business.

So in all, I am pointing again and again at the same solution---- nothing is lost...have fresh round of talks...if not already...BRING BACK MB (to SET)...or...to MB.. GO BACK to the location where you had an accident and continue working...

Hi All

Much has been said about this - but starting december several pointers came from MBs wall :

1. The story did not stick to DK-this came across as a major disappointment for him
2. He did mention that he had several discussions with the creatives for modifying the scenes and content which he said they did not agree to -----in fact he had himself rewritten the awful scene when they stop in the forest on way tto Babas house ...what he had written was a very sweet romantic one
3.At one point he said if he tried modifying anything more- he would be out of a job -so he was not really looking at quitting some time back-maybe
4. After the temple visarjan scene he said " KP is back- with such joy-did that mean KP was away-or he thought KP would be able to script better, noone knows
5. When it came to half hour episodes- he said now the entire unit is relieved - we can expect quality !!


I do believe he tried to use public opinion to improve the content-. Whether thats right or wrong is surely a point of debate- but it did come across that he did fight a battle, when all others were quiet.

I have no doubts that both poor scripting, execution were also one of the reasons for quitting. Maybe he just thought hat giving up his health for it was not worth it!!

Again, if the DK story had been maintained as it was in the initial episodes- I keep feeling- he wouldnt have quit, despite his health- he may have compromised. This of course is my intuitive understanding and yet another speculation 😊

TFS Tanu well now we know that MB is not returning for sure now we can move on to the new ashu and i really wish he does well and all the best to the show.

Originally posted by: Armu4eva

unfortunately the Movie & TV world doesnt... follow the set limits...!

channel dictates.. them.. what they need .. most times for eg. Star Plus.. u see them.. they are having popular faces of all their shows.. TOUR all cities of India.. do u think its written in their contracts of the actors?? no.. still they do!

regarding. .health... Surekha Sikri of Balika Vadhu and Anupam Shyam of Pratigya are two MAJOR examples that.. PH & Channels DO ACCOMODATE... !

again i say.. n agree with u..that.. ITS TOO LITTLE TOO LATE ...

Originally posted by: LizzieBennett

This is just my POV... I don't understand the dynamics of the TV world, nor can I claim to know the way numbers, TRPS and contracts work..Just thinking out loud, that's all...

Mimsy... I agree to an extent.. whichever way you look, the story or the lack thereof appears to be the biggest culprit followed by the extension of epis leading to the stretching of shoot hours...And I feel pretty sure they must have explored all avenues, tried talking out mid-ways or compromises before arriving at an impasse and the impasse meant MB's exit...

Originally posted by: Mimoha

Ditto. Could not agree with you more. This puzzle has a missing piece. This is where I guess creative difference over the treatment comes in. If the passion quotient of the show indeed goes up after the new guy comes in, I will conclude that this was the real reason for MB' s exit not his health or creative difference over story.

On the other hand -they may just use the passion quotient- since they have lost all other "quotients" anyway !!!
Then they can forget the title song "nainon ki bhasha " also, along with the "adaptation of DK tag!!!

Originally posted by: Mimoha

Then I can absolutely relate to a 50+ guy doing the same for whatever reason. We all need to follow our own rhythm to complete our individual journeys.

Absolutely take your point on health. Rest assured, I am under no illusion that health is the only issue here. It is just being used to make the viewers accept the change.

Mimsy...I'm sure he knew when he signed on that playing the lead in a daily show is a completely different ball game from playing a supporting actor. Being a lead would need more from him in terms of time and commitment.
And this show hasn't been on air that long...only 5 months now. If he couldn't give that kind of commitment due to health/ time with family or whatever, he should have thought this through before he signed on. Leaving a project in the lurch because one suddenly realizes that its challenging one's rhythm or outlook in life is not done in my POV.
And if his health problems started after he began shooting, and he had to do a rethink.. then again I stand by my first post that the PH and channel would think it more beneficial to accommodate him rather than go for a change in a show already plagued by rock bottom TRPs. So there's definitely more to this than meets the eye and a lot more than either party is letting on.