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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sorry for writing in two diiferent colours...something went wrong with my settings...😆...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: vasanthi16

Yep Lizzie...that Ashu which Nidhi fell in love with is there ...but has got lost in all the illogical twists and turns after the confession at the dargah.


That Ashu has to resurface if this story has to proceed further.

QUOTE "when AShu was getting to know Nidhi..he would always fall in with her plans, he agreed for the picnic and wore the T shirt etc etc for her, he was so eager to please then and he always seemed to sideline Mallu..Now its the other way round. " QUOTE.

Also i feel even after Mallu confessed her sins to Ashu and also her hatred for Nidz ...he has started to trust her even more than before...which is so so strange !!! and the way she keeps harping on their age difference...any sane person would have questioned that person's motive , but here Ashu just disregards it ( the motive )and in fact takes it to heart and this festers in his mind !! why doesn't he even think once WHY Mallu is doing this ????




@bold: WORD!! Why should he share each and every detail of his meetings with Nidhi with Mallu? Just don't get it..its more like a compulsion.. What happened to that Ashu who was so full of disdain and contempt for Mallu after he dismissed Nidhi???All she had to do was cut her wrists and Voila!!! Ashu the faithful puppy dog has replaced the Ashu the human with working brains!

And Ashu never needed anyone to tell him what to do in the beginning... he was always shown to think for himself... he followed his own heart and Mallu was the last person who he'd allow to run his life... Agreed..Armaan was required to push him towards Nidhi and make him understand that it wasn't wrong..but after that??? If he's old enough and mature enough to spew those mesmerising poetic words about Nidhi's love, then why does he need to keep consulting Armaan on everything?

They seem so reluctant..almost scared to talk to each other... Why??? 😕
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Age Gap -- Brain Gap --- Communication Gap --- Personality Gap

in short at the moment i see GAP ... GAP and GAP!

I think the biggest issue that is making our characters behave weirdly is (along with K-Virus'z out of th world writing and logic) --

----Insecurity: Ashu is insecure... not only about BEING in a RELATIONSHIP .. but BEING in a RELATIONSHIP with a girl HALF his AGE ... n along with it... insecure about Disappointing the very same girl ... insecure about being Disappointed in the end ..!

Remember not all are able to step out of their comfort zones .. many like to carry on with what is going on... n rarely try to attempt something off the routine!

However, since our Ash-Man has managed to FALL in LOVE ..n managed to bite that forbidden Apple of LOVE... he is in a dilemma ... regarding

a) the longevity of Nidhis feelings
b) the fear of losing Nidhi n ending up in pain

Its imperative to know that (from what we have been shown til now) Ashu hasnt COURTED obviously.. n has NO IDEA what he is supposed to do as a B.F ... n hence he keeps relying on Armaan to feed him ideas.. !

But what is disappointing is the LACK OF EFFORT TO IMPROVE... TO LEARN ... i find it appalling that Ashu (after being gifted n no. of silly n cheesy stuff from Nidhi) cant find it in him to give her something in return... cant find it in him to try n understand her likes and dislikes...

Along with it ... his NON CHALANCE towards Mallu is INTOLERABLE... remember Ashu as a man n as a character has been shown as one with exemplary credentials - morals ..etc ... then how can be STAND there n gwaaff as Mallu openly declares her hatred and then her repeated ATTEMPTS at HURTING NIDHI???? Agreed she along with Armu r his two sole emotional anchors ...but is it not too much if th person who claims to b ur best frnd also accepts to have hurt the love of ur life??? Ok so she claims to hv turn a new leaf .. but din Rahim (poet) say.. 'Rahiman dhaga preet ka mat todo chatkae..toote se fir na jude.. jude gath pad jae' ?? The friendship ought to hv been affected thanks to Mallu's evilness ... so isnt it an ALARM clock for Ashu that... Blind Faith needs to be replaced with Caution???

And ..where is the B.F Ashu??? The B.F who ought to go to Nidhis place n check on Baba.. try n apologise for firing Nidhi ... n request Baba to let her resume Kotnis?? Ok if not that.. atleast.. inspire Nidhi to focus on her career?? Ok if not that.. ask Nidhi how her Baba will manage his future ...given the business loss?? Are these not a B.F's duty???


---Immaturity : Nidhi and her immaturity ... Yes she is 'child like' as Mudra said.. but a child has to grow up?? Falling in love is a great learning process... having gone thru 7 years of courtship. .i can safely vouch for it..coz i started as a clueless girl n m a tad bit better as off as of now! Yes .. she is in love.. but love is not jus about th superficial 'gifts' ...its about understanding each other... its about comforting and confiding in each other..!

Her continuous observation of Rohan understanding her better than Ashu is nothing short of a hit on her own SO CALLED love for Ashu... in fact.. ur LOVE ought to b the first person to READ ur EYES.. sense ur anxiety and accordingly become ur strength..! Here Nidhi a) never confides in Ashu b) never opens up .. how then can a relation develop?? a bond form??

Love needs lots of efforts... lots of talks.. &.. lots of time ...

And what is up with her lack of AIM .. PURPOSE n DIRECTION ???? A 14th ranker Doc sitting pretty at home... with no thot of the Future... makes it a torture n a crime to bear! Her confident declaration of taking control of her future n fending for her family .. have all gone down the drain... n its apalling to watch!


In short .. to summarise my Ramayan ... what i meant is..

Ashu --- Needs to be CONFIDENT of th relationship
Nidhi --- Needs to be DETERMINED about the relationship
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Lizzie. you have pointed out some valid reasons and concerns..

Here I see two types of demons.. first type are broader and important ones: KTLK demons..its TRP, sponsors, actors' unavailability, BD nonsense, etc..etc.. they threaten the very existence of the show and the Sony channel..they have to be tackled urgently. In the process of addressing them, there were efforts to include several high drama twists and turns, cheap tricks and tracks...

Just imagine the story like 'sasural...' show an under graduate student marrying a person becomes an important role in the family..ridicules her own sister...ultimate is..she gives naphthalene balls to her mother-in-law in the place of medicine..and that sister cries never ending...this crap somehow my MIL and her friend watch regularly...this show has the TRP not less than 3.6...BALH is another crap with so many twists and ugly turns...Here I dont want to put down any other show..but I feel it is unfortunate that KTLK has to compete with them..

We have witnessed beautiful first 50 episodes. So no doubt about the CVS and writers' creativity. But when the survival (sponsors need min 200 episodes) is the biggest problem, then it is necessary to have some drama. Still I appreciate the KTLK team for keeping up the story line. Violin sequence is one such thing.
I guess switching to 11.0 pm slot would solve all these problems.

Many english channels have different shows and if KTLK was to compete with them, strong storylinewise we would have witnessed KTLK at its best.

Second type of demons are storywise..so many complex natures have to be tackled simultaneously. one such thing is..why Nidhi not telling her people about the relationship should be Ashutosh's immediate concern...
Ashutosh him self was not clear...whether to hate her or love her.. fortunately it took only two days of our torture for him to realize. Writers are projecting him as a normal human than any super natural film hero..Then Mallika's life attempt...age gap issue...While tackling such issues, parallelly included the beautiful 'heer' revelation, Violin thingy etc..etc..

I suggest little bit of our patience might give us some peace...dont take me wrong...but few days ago there were several angry posts on IF about why Ashutosh cannot go to disco with Nidhi...But two days later when the episode was aired...story was something else...




Edited by mudraswathi - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Tanu 👏👏👏...what a post !!
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Posted: 13 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: vasanthi16

Tanu 👏👏👏...what a post !!


Oh dear god... u all actually read it?? 😲 i almost dozed off re-reading it 😆

LoLz... thankooo 😳
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Posted: 13 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: Armu4eva


Oh dear god... u all actually read it?? 😲 i almost dozed off re-reading it 😆

LoLz... thankooo 😳



Tanu..am glad you are back from swarglok and quoting Rahim!! 😲..Hayyla..!!
Now you better review my chapter..or else! 😡
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ LizzieBennett

To quote from ur last post...They seem so reluctant..almost scared to talk to each other... Why??? 😕

Lovely post Lizzie and this is precisely what I wanted to say...Ashni should first and foremost sit together and talk this thing over...As in the coffee shop Ashu said he is afraid that all this is just a dream and Nidhi said she was strong...etc, etc...where did all this go???????

One important place where this show falters is they leave conversations in mid-air...I mean one episode ends on a convo and the next one instead of starting from there starts from a totally different point...

Take the episode where Ashu offers his hanky to Nidhi, it ended with Ashni laughing over the fact that their relationship is not all that old for them to fight... then why did the next epi start from that point???????

Ashni are aware that their relationship is going to be filled with problems all the way...so why don't they sit and talk it over...I mean when Baba talked about Mandira and him not accepting the age gap, Nidhi should have told this to Ashu and together they could have thought of something...

Lizzie ur title is so appropriate...This is truly a brain-gap problem...Not just a brain gap but a total missing of brains...Two doctors...One an eminent brain surgeon and the other who ranked 14 in all India exams..but both act like juveniles...the top-noch surgeon runs to his Momma Mallu and not only updates her with all his activities with his lady love, but even cries his woes out in front of her...that also after knowing all that she had done to keep them apart...what do we call this if not brainlessness?????

And the other...who claims she is stronger and braver than her beau, but who at the drop of a hat runs to take advice from another brainless juvenile...her BF, and if one is not enough...she cross-checks...sorry seeks 'second opinion' from love guru Rohan...as though its an illness to diagnose which she needs a second opinion...

In my opinion if Ashni just talk over this matter they can find a solution to face not only Baba, DB, Mallu, the whole of Lucknow but even the world at large...

From Thursday and Friday's episodes i have made the following observations...

In Thursday's episode Nidhi showed great maturity...The way she told Ashu I came only because of u and if u are not here what will I do here...and then in the car she told him so sweetly that so what many people can't dance...I felt wow here Nidhi has acted more mature than Ashu...Ashutosh on the other hand got upset because a girl called him 'uncle' and said his GF looked better with the younger guy...It appeared as though his ego was actually bruised rather than his heart...He could have very sweetly turned on his dimpled smile and told that girl i am so proud that she loves me and not the younger one...That would have put the girl in her place...

Then on Friday...why did Nidhi have to tell Ashu to take dancing lessons??????? Can't she accept the fact that he is not interested in dancing????? Maybe after their relationship progresses and their love deepens he himself will learn a few steps just to accompany her ...

Now coming to Ashutosh...His reaction on Thursday as I said before was more because his ego was hurt...Ok he was upset, and his dialogues in the car were also good...He was justified in thinking what future their relationship held and whether Nidhi would be happy in this relationship...Then on Friday he goes and spoils it all by describing how the idea of the disc was a flop...etc, etc, and giving the cat something more to gloat over...That too after knowing how Mallu had tried all the tricks in her book to separate him and Nidhi...How can he give a ball to ball account of his romance with Nidhi to a woman who he knows is obsessed with him and will go to any lengths to have him????? if this is not insanity then i don't know what is...

The Cvs need to realise and show that a relationship has to be nurtured with love and understanding and then only will it the bond between the two strengthen and the relationship will succeed...behaving like two juveniles is not going to help them...

Let me quote a personal example here...When I married my hubby I did not know ABC of cricket...but it was his passion so I had no alternative but to follow the maxim..."If u can't beat them join them"...and thats what i used to do...I learnt a lot about the game and even began to like it a bit..although I am still not overly fond of it...After a while he realised that I was watching it on sufferance so he did something quite surprising he got me a separate TV and cable connection so i could watch what i liked while he watched his games...Now I sit with him and watch cricket and he even sits with me and watches my shows...although not all ...and that also willingly...What want to say is this is how a relationship should grow and a bond should strengthen...

As for the precap...since when did differences in preference for food be a result of age gap??? My hubby and I are more or less of the same age but are choice of food is way different!!!!!! CVs should realise that choice of music and food are simply differences in preferences and not the result of age gap...

Sorry for the extremely long post...and if I have bored u all also I apologise...Also excuse the different colour print but i thought different aspects of the post would be better in different colours...


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Mehek! 👏..Awesome analysis!!!

And I agree..Ashu reaction to the girl telling him Nidhi looks better with Rohan seemed more to do with ego-bruising! The problem with these two stems from the confession epi... it took someone else to do their confession for them...and then they agree they do not have to say the magic words to each other..bcos woh kehne ke liye poori zindagi padi hai!!
Why??? Why would you not want to tell your BF/GF that you love them? Especially here in Ashu's case since he's not doing anything to show her that he loves her! He's never even given her a gift like Tanu pointed out..
I wonder sometimes if they've just mutually agreed to love each other out of compulsion becos it was forced on them by RoMaan? 😕 it sure looks like that! Neither is Nidhi fully convincing that she loves him (she keeps reiterating Rohan's importance in her life) and nor is Ashu (he puts Mallu and all other petty issues above Nidhi) It seems like they're held together by a fragile piece of string that can snap by even a simple gust of wind. They need to nurture this bond, strengthen it...neither of them is realizing the importance of sharing as a major force in strengthening their relationship.
Why highlight their differences...they already have the age factor between them? Why not show that they can still have things in common despite the age-gap. After all they chose to fall in love with each other..that shd count for something..each of them has seen something in the other that made them surmount all the apparent differences and give their hearts to each other. Then why not celebrate this difference? Why not celebrate those very qualities that made them fall for each other instead of dwelling on the negatives. No two people can be perfectly matched in every way! Even ppl of the same age or same background... then why don't AshNi realize this and stop expecting? Or compromise for each other! The issues that the CVs are highlighting like diff tastes etc are so minor, so petty..they cannot be reasons to break a relationship!!!


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Thanks Lizzie 4 opening the thread. evy post is excellent.nice discussion.wish i could add but can't.may be, lack of experience ya imagination.jst a college student who is yet to taste the beauty of love.pardon it.am quite preoccupied with the relevance of Mandira in Ashni's life.pls gals discuss that also.i know most of u r against it but still think abt the other side.smwhere i feel its going to be an eye openner.pls disuss that side of the story.

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