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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ltelidevara

Latha SP12

What can a frustrated Dev Dixit admirer do except for ranting and cursing the CVs? I know I have to cope up with it since I can not stay away from it because of Shaheer. Hope you understand.

Lakshmi

My intention is not to stop you from expressing your disappointments. It's everyone's right since it's an open forum. I am really sorry if I sounded like it. All I am trying to say is don't stress yourself for a fictional show, it's not worth it because at the end it's just business for them.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: LiveLife321

My intention is not to stop you from expressing your disappointments. It's everyone's right since it's an open forum. I am really sorry if I sounded like it. All I am trying to say is don't stress yourself for a fictional show, it's not worth it because at the end it's just business for them.

No Latha..I did not take it that way. It is nothing about you. I am just expressing my inability to stay away though I also very much thought of doing so. You are right in every way. My husband also warns." You are getting involved too much..it is a fictional show..he says. But what to do? Can't stay back from Shaheer. If I watch these frustrations are inevitable. That is what I meant. It is not about your words. I hope I conveyed properly.


Lakshmi
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sp12


I may be wrong here but I guess what she was trying to convey by that statement is that love is like pure water but when you add different colours which in this case are over possessiveness, insecurity etc. then the water turns black i.e. Love becomes impure.
Another equivalent to this might be when she says that love between husband-wife & mother-child is different and in this context if we look at her statement then water is equated with an individual and the colours are equated with different types of love. Till the individual treats each colour diffrently he/she remains clear/clean but the day he/she tries to intermix different colours that day he/she becomes unclear/lost. If the statement is said in this context then I have a bit of different opinion here, I agree that different types of loves cannot be mixed but if each type of love can mixed in proper amount especially in a husband-wife relationship then the final colour will be beautiful. In a husband-wife relationship one would want different types of love from their partner i.e. When he/she is sick then there would be the love of a parent, when he/she is cranky then love of a child and at other times the love of a better half, if these can be balanced then love would be beautiful.

Apologies for the long post, don't know if I made any sense. It's just my POV, no offence.


Thanks SP12. It actually goes with one of the original tracks of KRPKAB --

Yeh lamhein hazar se hote hain
Rang pyaar ke
Laakhon phool bahaar ke
Hote hai rang pyaar ke

Dekhe hai phool jo khil ke kabhi na khile
Dekhe hai dil jo mil ke kabhi na mile

Kuch rang pyaar ke hai aise bhi
Kuch rang pyaar ke aise bhi

Chulhe pe phulke sa phulhe
Yaadein jaise hawa mein jhoole
Raat ko lori ban
Chupke se maathe ko chhule

Taanke hue shirt ke button sa
Godh rakh soye bachpan sa
Haath ki laali sa
Kabhi laage dhaga resham sa

Pyaar mein lipte kitne rang mile
Dekhe kabhi woh rang jo
Kabhi na mile

Kuch rang pyaar ke hai aise bhi
Kuch rang pyaar ke aise bhi
Kuch rang pyaar ke aise bhi

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Latha, Lakshmi, I can understand what you guys are talking about especially regarding showing FL as wrong or flawed. But that is exactly where the directors are driving at. Recently there was an interview with Yash Patnaik( after episode 343, but before the sisters came into the picture) in which he said that with KRPKAB, they took out the story and left only reality behind. But then since it is not a documentary, they are adding minimal story and drama to show that. He also said that KRPKAB has broken a lot of rules of the tv trope and that they will continue to do so. And I think this is also one of the rules that they will break. That is where they are taking the story.

Watching yesterday's episode, I was very confused as to what the makers are trying to say. But when I read Lakshmi's post, things started to click. And lot of things kind of fell into place. The one where you talked about personal and professional space. And I like the way the makers are driving the leads to the starting point. The point where they first met in Dr. Sinha's office. In that scene, while Dev judged her professionally, she judged him personally. From then onwards to get Sonakshi to work for him, this is how they both saaw each other. When Sonakshi came to work for Dev, she came with a personal cause, while he was only concerned with the professional reason. She came to IN for Dev the son, not Dev Dixit the businessman. He didn't really care about Sonakshi as a person, but held Dr. Bose in highest regard.

Sonakshi was Dev's employee regardless of what her position was. Yet she crossed the lines from the first day she came. She took everything personally. An employee can judge his/her employer for their professions skills, manners and behavior, but not the personal life. I would like to share my personal experience. My last manager was a single parent who had her baby last year. We were close to each other and were talking about pregnancy and babies. And she was telling that she got pregnant after a songle night stand with a guy whom she met at a conference. When she found she was pregnant, she called to tell him and that guy said he doesn't want anything to do with it. She wanted a baby, so she decided to keep it and gave birth to her. She was telling me that the father doesn't want to know of even want to have anything to do with her or the baby. As an emplloyee reporting to her, I have no right to judge any of her decisions in personal life. I cannot tell her that she is wrong to keep the baby or keep in touch with that guy or send photos to him. That is her personal choice and decision. But I can tell her if she is not doing her job correctly or if she did an awesome job. But Sonakshi did exactly that. She told him that his taking away her job was personal. She made it look like he took revenge on her, when he had no such intention.

Now by Sonakshi saying that she wants to keep her personal and worklife separate, the makers are taking her to that place when she crossed her boundaries, intruded in his personal life. Every step of the way she is finding her mistakes and wrong doings and that is what is confusing her the most. She is finding it hard to believe that she could be so wrong when she always thought she was always right. In one of the early episodes, Ishwari asks her to throw away a box with old toys and things after getting distressed from seeing Khatri. Sonakshi doesn't throw it, but keeps it in the kitchen. The following day when Ishwari is regretting her actions, Sonakshi takes her to the box. At that time she says this -- maaye toh apni bacchoon ki galatiya tak sambhalke rakthi hai. Usually parents either correct their child's mistake or hide it. But don't "protect" or "safeguard" it. And that is the biggest flaw in her upbringing. The way Bijoy and Asha have brought her up is, if during day she said, no it is night, instead of telling her it is day and showing her, they closed all the doors and windows of the room, darkened it and said you are right. If she said it was day during night, then once again closed all the doors and windows of the room, added as much light as needed and said she was right. They never let her see the real picture. She lives with the misconception that she is never wrong. And when she is faced with the fact that she is infact wrong, she immidiately looks towards others to blame for it. she justifies her blame game by saying "what can I do, I didn't know that. It is not my fault that I did not have that information. I had good intentions and gave the correct script for others to follow. If they didn't do it, it is not my mistake".

With the current story line, the makers are taking away those tools where she has no choice but too introspect. She has no one left to blame. This last act of Dev, being fuelled by fear was the last line of her defence. She no longer can hide her mistakes behind others. But before she can be exposed, the makers had to take away that foil. And they did as per the spoilers and the precap. Going forward, whatever the consequences, she is the only one who will be responsible with her actions and decisions. She cannot say it was influenced by Dev or Ishwari. By claiming that she wants "independence" to take her own decisions, she has left herself truly vulnerable in a way. By also not taking responsibility of the previous mistakes, she has created a kind of vacuum around her, taken away all those people who used to support her. In a way she herself has removed her support system. My guess is she is being led to a place where she needs support, but will find herself truly alone. Just like Dev 7 years ago when she left him. She will not even have Dev's support in true sense because her ego will not let her to confess her need not only to Dev, but everyone. She will be like Dev was after the first break up where he struggled with the idea that his mother is not happy with his happiness.

I applaud the makers to take the story this way and show something unique. 😃

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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Shaavi Really appreciate your optimism, call me a pessimist but I have minimal hopes. Even if some part of what you have said happens I will be very happy. But I have no idea how this would happen as before it was only Sonakshi's parents who used to tell her that she is always right but now everyone in Dixit family also does that so wouldn't it add to her perception that she is always right ??

Just my POV, no offence
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I don't know.
Love has shades I feel. Not a particular colour. Liking, affection, giving, expecting, hurting, taken for granted, spending time together...that is what I can think of.

PS. jitna hum sochte hain, writers bhi nahin sochte honge. I feel though it is their baby.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Shaavi Amazing write up. But you know my negative thinking. I am scared to even hope that some day we will see what you said happen. Still I appreciate your positivity and wish every word you said come true. Hoping for the best..


Lakshmi


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Posted: 8 years ago
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@shaavi, My thoughts are same as sp12. At present, the show is not giving me any kind of positive vibes. I am really sorry to say this. Even if we take the precap, looks like we are going to see dev's dynamism part2. Using part one they have turned Sona into rebel making her leave IN, now with part two I think they're gonna make Soha rebel to bring Vikki back to IN. Honestly I'm not seeing any one learning any lessons from their mistakes, all I am seeing is everyone giving free gyaan to Dev.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I watched today's episode 3 times to make sure that I did see the change. In today's episode Dev neither said sorry to her for his behavior the past few days nor said thank you for the date. 😃 . In fact it is Sonakshi who said thank you for the flowers. For me that is a very big change. Both Ishwari and Sonakshi used guilt as the mechanism to bind Dev to them. They used it in different ways but both of them tried to make him do what they wanted him to do. Both of them wanted him to fulfill their dreams and desires. Adapt that personality that made them happy. If Ishwari wanted him to be a dutiful son, Sonakshi wanted him to meet the criteria list of Prince Charming. Both liked the way he loved them, so they decided to change him as per their specifications.

Dev held himself responsible for 3 people -- Ishwari and his sisters, Sonakshi and Bose family and Suhana. On the day the first time Nikki came home, Ishwari liberated Dev from the guilt towards his family. Getting to know Vickky's acts as well as by Sonakshi's words in yesterday's episode along with Ishwari's talk, Dev is now free of his guilt towards Sonakshi and Bose family. Now it is Suhana's turn. Suhana can do whatever she wants and can be as stubborn as she wants, but am sure(200%) that Vickky will not return to IN in such a short period of time nor Dev will say sorry to him or maami and maamaji. Suhana will see the other side of her dad with this track. And from the way Vickky said and did things today, my guess is he himself will not want to stay back at IN. In that segment he was shown to be kind of leaving IN and saying something. My guess is these few days away from his family and the truth regarding his worth has had the required effect on him. He is now seeing the world without the glasses called "entitlement". He no longer feels that he deserves all that he got. How real is this realization, only time will tell.

Dev till now absorbed all of Sonakshi's flaws and faults with his unconditional love which he gave from his heart. But after yesterday's confrontation with Sonakshi and then his talks with Ishwari, he has added a little bit of mind to his love. Now Sonakshi doesn't have that wall of protection behind which she could easily hide and not have to face the consequences. One of the major trait of Dev was that he held himself responsible for all the negative experiences of his loved ones. But he no longer does that. He is free of the burden of someone else's doing. With Suhana being the last piece of that puzzle. As per the makers Dev's journey this season is to learn to be happy by himself i. e. He is no longer trying to be happy only when Ishwari or Sonakshi or Suhana is happy. He is learning to be happy within himself. The other thing regarding this journey is that Dev will learn to take his decisions because they are the right choice and is not under the influence of others like Ishwari or Sonakshi or even Suhana. He will listen to what they are saying. Only if he feels that what they said is right will pay heed to their words, otherwise he will do as it seems right to him.

Dev had left Vickky in jail in season 1 to teach him a lesson. At that time too he slaps him in that police station. Rr comes to IN, complains that what Dev did was wrong and takes money from Ishwari by lying. At that time, first Ishwari, then Sonakshi tell him that he was wrong and that he should have brought Vickky home and made him understand. And that is exactly what is in the precap tomorrow. The difference is maami will find the value of her "ehsaan" is as of now. She thought Dev would forever pay for the "ehsaan", but will find that it is she herself who is now indebted towards him. She is living in IN with the hope that pretty soon, Dev will forgive Vickky for all his misdoings, let Vickky come back and everything will be just like before. Not like before the truth was known to Dev, but after truth was known to Sonakshi. She wants her son to be that trusted person who isn't looked down upon. But my guess is Vickky will take maami and maamaji too from IN. And it will be him who will rebuild the house his mother burnt.

The current behavior of Soha is a mirror for both Sonakshi and maami. Vickky always cribbed that he wasn't like Dev because he didn't get good education. That he didn't study in good school. But even though his son goes to good school, he still is a failure. Reason is no one paid any attention to him, nor corrected him when he needed their guidance. He is doing what he had seen his father doing, lie, hide and cheat. More than anything hide behind Dev. Maami never let Vickky take responsibility and every time expected Dev to do that as "bada bhai". But the thing is even the "chota bhai" has to grow up one day. He cannot always hide under the guise of being "chota". And that is what maami is set to learn, that her son is grown up and is a "Man". He is no longer a boy and is responsible for his actions, all of it.

Sonakshi in the beginning of the leap told Soha that she was the princess and Dev was the frog. That he was the one who hurt her and failed to keep her happy. Suhana believed her mother. But since knowing Dev, her perception of both Dev and Sonakshi has changed.With the most recent track, she is now confused. In the recent episode when Suhana asks Sonakshi if Dev hurt her, Sonakshi's reply was that Dev loved everyone very much and hence was not capable of hurting them. These two statements are contradictory to each other. This has made Suhana question her mother's logic and truthfulness. Suhana had always thought that her mother didn't lie. Even Dev had accepted that he had hurt Sonakshi on his first day at Bose house during their weekly arrangement. And this contradictions is what she is acting out. She is not able to understand what is going on around her and in trying to make sense of it is getting negatively influenced by Golu.

The moral of this track is it is not just enough to enroll kids into good school to turn them into good adults. Even the best education system is useless if one falls prey to bad company. Even the brightest student can lose themselves. This is an illustration of the proverb -- tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who you are. With Dev and Sonakshi focusing on Soha, once again Sonakshi has to inevitably face the consequences of the last 7 years. The more she wants to run away from those consequences, the more they are catching up with her. And whether she likes it or not they won't just go away by themselves. Just like she had to free Dev from the guilt of not being with her for the last 7 years, she will have no choice but to free him from being guilty of Soha. She will be forced to absolve him of all the guilts and will have to face the consequences.

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