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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

General response to the eviction thing (@Malika and Lakshmi): I don't want to talk too much more about this, since the point of my original post on the subject was to say, Sona and Dev have shelved this, so I will too. What I do want to clarify though, is that I don't think two wrongs make a right. Mistakes cannot cancel each other out, nor can they compensate for one another. Sona putting her parents' house up for mortgage was a stupid decision, and was a significant part of why they eventually got evicted. However, that doesn't lessen Dev/Vicky's culpability in throwing a family out onto the street in the middle of the night. Similarly, the guilt of Sona hiding Soha can never be lessened or erased by any of the mistakes Dev made , though he made many. Separate mistakes require separate redemption/apologies.


General response to the key thing (@Charu, Malika, Lakshmi, Rekha, Timbarucha): The more I think about it, the more Sona's move to give the keys back to Mami immediately seems like a calculated risk rather than a mistake. I completely agree with Timbarucha on the fact that consulting Ishwari before giving the keys to Mami would have nullified the effect of Sona's intention. In order to truly bamboozle Mami -- which she succeeded in doing -- she had to undermine Ishwari first, and hope to god that Ishwari would understand what she was trying to do.


I really liked that move because 1. Sona truly exercised the haq that Ishwari gave her, saying implicitly, "if you have given me the responsibility of the household sincerely, you also have to trust the decisions that I make for it. This can't just be a symbolic gesture where you retain all of the executive power." Ishwari had to come good on all the promises she has made Sona since the reconciliation. And 2. Sona took a risk; she knew that Ishwari might be upset and hurt, but she did what she thought was right, and more importantly, what was right for her. Dil ka faisla -- dimag se nahi -- sirf dil se. 😊


If she did accept Ishwari's decision without question, she would have constant antagonism from Mami to look forward to, something she is not interested in dealing with. Mami genuinely believes that Sona is just like her, out to get Dev's wealth. If that perception is genuinely shaken, as it was yesterday, even if it means Mami thinks Sona is an idiot, Sona saves herself, Dev, and Ishwari a lot of grief. Secondly, with the sequence of her actions, Sona silently established herself as an authority figure in Mami's mind. She made a decision without Ishwari's consent, and though initially hurt, Ishwari accepted that decision, and validated Sona as an independent, executive authority in the family. That is huge. Mami thinks she hit the jackpot with the physical keys, without realising that Sona retained the great power and responsibility that came with them. That's why Sona told Ishwari, you gave me a responsibility, and I think I have fulfilled it.


The beauty is, though, that Sona didn't do any of this with strategy in mind. She did it because she felt genuine empathy with Mami's feelings of being used and thrown. Mami is so crass and self-absorbed that people tend to forget that she too has feelings, but Sona showed that there is much to be achieved if those feelings are recognised and validated.That is a core S1 trait that I am excited to see return in her character, and the same trait that Dev was bursting with pride over in the episode. This woman who can set aside her own pain, and feel deeply for someone who has been as cruel to her as Mami has, is the woman he fell in love with. Now with the authority and support she needs to exercise that empathy as a governing principle of the IN household, Sona will be able to contribute significantly to its overall emotional health.

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Posted: 8 years ago
Just wowww to Geena...that was splendid buddy...cud feel your emotions...that's what is called effective articulation isnt it...kudos dearie.
My 2 fav scenes
1. The over protective Dev Dixit..does he know, down the line he will be replica of Bijoy Bose more aggressive and powerful...poor soha how many slapgates she will have to witness🤣
2. That was indeed a very private moment...your kid's first smile, step, words uttered are treasures for any couples. What emotionally wrecked me is Sona's solitude during that phase of her life. Though she was surrounded by her family she must have missed the most important person - Soha's father- with whom she wanted to share her daughter's precious moments. Sona dear fate doesn't give second chances to many. You have got, just savour the moment...mami, keys, nikki, riya all can wait😳😳
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Posted: 8 years ago
@ gmgi 🤗 for Your Beautiful Post.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

General response to the eviction thing (@Malika and Lakshmi): I don't want to talk too much more about this, since the point of my original post on the subject was to say, Sona and Dev have shelved this, so I will too. What I do want to clarify though, is that I don't think two wrongs make a right. Mistakes cannot cancel each other out, nor can they compensate for one another. Sona putting her parents' house up for mortgage was a stupid decision, and was a significant part of why they eventually got evicted. However, that doesn't lessen Dev/Vicky's culpability in throwing a family out onto the street in the middle of the night. Similarly, the guilt of Sona hiding Soha can never be lessened or erased by any of the mistakes Dev made , though he made many. Separate mistakes require separate redemption/apologies.


General response to the key thing (@Charu, Malika, Lakshmi, Rekha, Timbarucha): The more I think about it, the more Sona's move to give the keys back to Mami immediately seems like a calculated risk rather than a mistake. I completely agree with Timbarucha on the fact that consulting Ishwari before giving the keys to Mami would have nullified the effect of Sona's intention. In order to truly bamboozle Mami -- which she succeeded in doing -- she had to undermine Ishwari first, and hope to god that Ishwari would understand what she was trying to do.


I really liked that move because 1. Sona truly exercised the haq that Ishwari gave her, saying implicitly, "if you have given me the responsibility of the household sincerely, you also have to trust the decisions that I make for it. This can't just be a symbolic gesture where you retain all of the executive power." Ishwari had to come good on all the promises she has made Sona since the reconciliation. And 2. Sona took a risk; she knew that Ishwari might be upset and hurt, but she did what she thought was right, and more importantly, what was right for her. Dil ka faisla -- dimag se nahi -- sirf dil se. 😊


If she did accept Ishwari's decision without question, she would have constant antagonism from Mami to look forward to, something she is not interested in dealing with. Mami genuinely believes that Sona is just like her, out to get Dev's wealth. If that perception is genuinely shaken, as it was yesterday, even if it means Mami thinks Sona is an idiot, Sona saves herself, Dev, and Ishwari a lot of grief. Secondly, with the sequence of her actions, Sona silently established herself as an authority figure in Mami's mind. She made a decision without Ishwari's consent, and though initially hurt, Ishwari accepted that decision, and validated Sona as an independent, executive authority in the family. That is huge. Mami thinks she hit the jackpot with the physical keys, without realising that Sona retained the great power and responsibility that came with them. That's why Sona told Ishwari, you gave me a responsibility, and I think I have fulfilled it.


The beauty is, though, that Sona didn't do any of this with strategy in mind. She did it because she felt genuine empathy with Mami's feelings of being used and thrown. Mami is so crass and self-absorbed that people tend to forget that she too has feelings, but Sona showed that there is much to be achieved if those feelings are recognised and validated.That is a core S1 trait that I am excited to see return in her character, and the same trait that Dev was bursting with pride over in the episode. This woman who can set aside her own pain, and feel deeply for someone who has been as cruel to her as Mami has, is the woman he fell in love with. Now with the authority and support she needs to exercise that empathy as a governing principle of the IN household, Sona will be able to contribute significantly to its overall emotional health.


@ Bold Beautifully Written and Explained.I hope one day I am able to express my toughts in this way like you and @gmgi has mention in your posts.
Edited by timbarucha83 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Thank you Chits and timba
@ Chits - Effective artuiculation😆. This whole week episodes had been so good that I am always moving around with a smile, singing to myself. My husband was telling me yesterday that I behave as if I am in love🤣

@ timba, you express yourself beautifully dear. You are one of the few here who never loses it irrespective of what is shown. Always thinking positively. So Kudos to you👍🏼
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: gmgi



@ timba, you express yourself beautifully dear. You are one of the few here who never loses it irrespective of what is shown. Always thinking positively. So Kudos to you👍🏼


Seconded! ⭐️

Timba, your posts have been oases of positivity and reason from day one of this thread! I'm so happy that you're here 😃

And, beautiful post, Geena! It made me relive the episode in all its emotional glory.
Edited by Samanalyse - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Lakshmi- we are expecting different things. That's all.
Gina- WiFi err hi five!
Sam - lovely as always.
Timba- thanks for adding to my post. It makes sense.

The way Friday went, it was classic Dev 1.0 and sona 1.0 in many ways. He went you mummy dear... she went into rajnikaant mode. But look such wonderful outcomes. Because their families are supporting them. I like that. They remain true to their character. The people their lovers fell in love with. Yet now they succeed.

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Samanalyse


Seconded! ⭐️

Timba, your posts have been oases of positivity and reason from day one of this thread! I'm so happy that you're here 😃

Thirded👏
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Posted: 8 years ago
Thanks a lot for your kind words and encouragement 😊😊🤗
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: thedramaqueen

Lakshmi, your post about sonakshi sleeping after giving that one piece of information really spoke to me. I have been watching that scene starting from Dev sat on that window (with his long legs in plain view for me to ogle 😳 ) in repeat mode. It was lovely. Pure bliss. So your post tells me we are all do different isn't it. Obviously the makers totally spoke my love language but failed to speak yours (good to validate my own theory ever so often 😉 )

This is exactly how SR 1.0 started isn't it. They were sat on the edge of the bed in exactly the same positions. Sonakshi had a heavy head piece and this time the symbolic responsibility was that piece. Our ever so feminist Dev left the decision with his tumi tumi miss Bose. But look how lovely it ended this time. This is exactly how I had hoped SR 1.0 would end. But alas! This time Sonakshi sorted matters herself. Didn't take it out on Dev. She was relaxed and they both cuddled and shared a piece of the last 7 years. She was so honest and told him she was jealous that Soha called Papa before mumma. She was tired so she fell asleep in his arms

I have already imagined how the rest of that night went. Have you?


😃😉 The scene was well conceived and acted upon by the actors. The camerawork was brilliant. I look forward to such moments between the leads.


-Rekha

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