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Samanalyse

@Samanalyse

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Posted: 8 years ago

#51

Originally posted by: bashingHater
@Sam
Thanks for the clarification and I agree with you are saying.
Are you going to tell me the name of the magazine or newspaper you write for?😛😛

@bold: just a little publication called KRPKAB Weekly Analysis Thread.

You may have heard of it. 😉

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aarcha

@aarcha

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Posted: 8 years ago

#52

Originally posted by: Harryfan011

@bashingHater, thank you so much for your kind views...

As for your question, I believe that Asha was always aware of the fact, that Dev holds a special place inside her daughter's heart.. That was why, she rushed the marriage proceedings, after Sona broke her engagement with Rithwik...

@ bold

Asha rushed devakshi marriage proceedings ?? Actually ishwari was in a rush to gift the doll, i meant the girl her son desired.

Asha always liked Dev until dev sona second separation. Only time she was unhappy with dev was during kushal roy alliance. During first break up, asha asked sona if she wud b happy, had dev left his mother for her to which sona's reply was a NO. Asha made her realise that sona fell for one of that qualities of dev which was his luv, care n dedication to his family.

Soon after the first break up from dev, it was bijoy who started looking for a suitable groom for sona , then thanx to ishwari , doh tarah ke log ke saath aaya ritwick sen. Asha was against rushing things but supported her husband since sona too was willing to move on. On the engagement day, wen asha saw a crying sona who told elena that she had invited dev to her engagement so that both of them can move on, Asha asked her if she's nt happy bout this engagement, they can re think it. But sona said that her happiness lies with that of her parents.

After the second break up, wen vicky told boses that they 're thrown out of their house by dev as he cudn tolerate somebody against his mother ,then too asha asked sona if she believed that all those 're done by dev . All evidences're against dev & everyone believed him as the culprit. After that asha too had anger towards dev. In jatin case too, bijoy was more interested but as a loyal wife asha supported .

But dev's one week stay with the boses again changed her perspectives towards dev. She understood that though dev cudn b a good husband, but he definitely can b a good father to soha , after all dev's a good man with a golden heart.

Btw, great observations everyone.. Krpkab is taking the discussions to a new level every passing day 👏

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ltelidevara

@ltelidevara

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Posted: 8 years ago

#53

@ Bashing hater

When I said you are an expert I mean it wholeheartedly since the way you present your point creates such feeling. Discussions with people like you and Sam enhance my knowledge and help me know new things. So please don't take it as offence. You have this ability to explain a point in a scientific way that is truly enlightening .I never felt that you are forcing your opinion on me. Deep discussions help me to find the loopholes in my thinking process. I never think twice to accept your point if I find it convincing and I say again I am honoured to interact with people like you ,Sam,Shaavi and many others.

I am sorry if I hurt your feelings. I hope to learn new ways of looking at things and analysing with scientific approach. I thank you for explaining how the word fake is used here. I understood your point.

Lakshmi.

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Samanalyse

@Samanalyse

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Posted: 8 years ago

#54

Originally posted by: bashingHater

I believe there is more to the list. You should definitely add more names to that list.
Can I ask you a personal question if you don't mind?
Have you studied social sciences or sociology since your understanding on social structures is fatabulous.

That's really nice of you, thanks 😊

And yeah, I am pursuing graduate studies in History. I guess you caught the wannabe academic red-handed! 😆

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aarcha

@aarcha

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Posted: 8 years ago

#55

Originally posted by: thedramaqueen

Aarcha, with SauRo, the makers are definitely showing the comparison. The comparisons run much deeper however. Saurabh blew things out of proportion and it was refreshing to see Ronita trying to calm things down with him as well as her own mother.

Dev & Saurabh have very little in common to be compared to. Just like Vicky and Dev dont have much in common. Like Dev said y'day, some stuff is better ignored.. its normal.. routine.

What is really intriguing is how "trust" is playing a role in 3 different couples. Elena knows she cant trust vicky but has no other option. Ronita trusts her ILs but Saurabh's antics have had her worried. And Devakshi have only now started realising how important trust is.

Yeahh that's right sam, also v can't compare someone jst looking into a single incident. Let's wait n c wats in store for us .

Regarding the 3 couples, only dev sona got a second chance to re build their trust. Hopefully they will pass with flying colours 😊

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aarcha

@aarcha

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Posted: 8 years ago

#56

Originally posted by: bashingHater
@aarcha
I wanted to say that I loved your take on Bijoy and is in accordance with what I've understood about the character. But one of drawbacks of Bijoy's character is that he is self righteous.

You are right about Asha and like Sam had mentioned, adaptability is also the part of our nature which I forgot to consider.

But she did rush the wedding ceremony as she was not able to see Sonakshi in pain and wanted to end her cognitive dissonance that is the difference in the way you behave and what you want to behave like.

Bijoy was a very pleasant n righteous character in season 1 , esp b4 sona's first brk up with dev. After that new colours 're added to his character too & y nt ? show is all bout kuch rang 😃

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timbarucha83

@timbarucha83

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Posted: 8 years ago

#57

Hi Every One. I like the yesterday's episode. It was good. Some important points which are mostly get highlighted that is how sona handled mami. How Dev Welcomes Asha and for the first time he control the mami without getting angry but put the point that this is his house and his guest should be get respected. Vickki is trying to find the actual feelings of dev so he can decide what can be get done. But at some extends get the idea and at some extend get failed. The point which I like the most in the yesterday's episode that is both dev and sona are not in the hurry to have the conclusion related to patch up. and both are trying to hide their true feeling under the excuse that is they are concern abut each other as soha's parents. Sona was able to convince this to elena but I am my point is it possible with Asha. Another aspect is dev was and is always protective with his past. It was this when they were in the relation and it is now also. That's why he is not able to trust sona in this matter. It is as same as sona was not able to trust dev in the case of Ishu. so she never open up with him. In the same way dev was not willing to open up related to his past when they were together and this is the reason because of which ishu was able to cage him in the past and sent him to the guilt trip like in the case of vickki's job. Dev had to take the decision but not able to tell her the reason and this somewhere affected the sona. She feels that Ishu can change the dev's decision very easily whih affect her moral. Because if you get open up about your past your mind get free about it and if the person to whom you are communicating if that person is capable of give you the peace of mind and new hope you will able to free yourself from your past. But this don't happened . But now I am able to see the hope that dev will be more open up with sona about his past as from today. I know sona is not going to relive any thing to asha which will help dev to trust sona and at the same time it will make him ashamed about how he don't trust sona and I will be happy if he say sorry to her and told her about his fear related to his mother's image if this secrete get relived to any one. And he will understand that if he have some doughts he should have asked her instead of following her. He knows Asha will never harm to Ishu but as a son he don't want that his mother's image should get damage. I relay hope this will happen. It will give the Idea to sona also that how dev is protected related to past and for him it is difficult him to open up on this topic.

Yesterday's episode gives the positive feel . Now coming to dada what they are trying to show . I am not able to decide. One option is dada itself want ronita should get jealous and he will surprise her. what do you think? And for all the positive things thanks to the Ishu's absence. With out that it was not possible.So for some days if she is not around I will be happy. Lets see What happens.

Edited by timbarucha83 - 8 years ago

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thedramaqueen

@thedramaqueen

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Posted: 8 years ago

#58

Originally posted by: bashingHater

@Sam

I indeed hit bull's eye. 😉

My little knowledge about psychology has taught me to understand behavioral aspects of people.

Can I share something personal too? In my bachelor's degree, I was given the option to choose four social sciences' electives. So I chose psychology, sociology, mass communication and comparative religions. My knowledge about sociology helped me in pin pointing your field of expertise.

Since you are a student of history, I would like to ask you to compare Roman empire with today's world. Can you PM me your answer if time permits you.

oooh.. Sam... before you treat yourself to any more of Dev ki zulfein, there is homework to be finished... dont forget

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Shaavi

@Shaavi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#59

Originally posted by: ltelidevara
@ Shaavi

Thanks for your reply. But I have a doubt. What do you mean by active theft and passive theft? Is it intentional and unintentional?

As much as I know Iswari clearly was shown in her past as a woman who preferred daily labour to bring up her children. Her living conditions were below middle class as shown to us. Dev also occasionally told Sona about the poverty they endured in his childhood. Charecterwise also CVs presented her spotless ,she holds a pocket knife to protect herself. So why would she suddenly change her mind and tries to follow the shortcut way to get self sustained?

Did you remember Vicky's line from a recent episode? He says...Dev Bhai was about to get ousted from his school but he was lucky his mother won lottery prize. ...So when Iswari attempted theft Dev still is in his school level.

Your word that if she was involved in passive theft then Dev is just the caretaker...can be acceptable to me when Dev used the money as the capital investment for his business. But if he got educated with that then I can not accept this.

Any way the reality should be known to us through Iswari only. Her situation at that moment,her thought process and the extent of her involvement in that theft and the subsequent damage done to that family ...all these should be taken into consideration regarding Dev's future action.

Let us wait for Iswari to unfold the truth.

Lakshmi

Lakshmi, when I say active theft, I mean Ishwari going to that house and robbing them knowing well what it means to that family and also what may happen. She just kept the loot that she found and did not return it. Any theft no matter intentional or unintentional is wrong from my perspective. This is what I had written in last week's thread --

I am not sure the CVs will show the theft as an active one, meaning that Ishwari purposefully stole from that home knowingly. They might show it as more of a passive theft. What I feel is that Ishwari did not go to that house and steal the stuff. it was actually done by Khatri or someone else. Ishwari might have found the loot when she went to pick up Dev from his late night tutions. She might have thought of returning it in the morning, but found that that family had left town overnight.

The right thing to do here would have been to go to the nearest police station, give the stolen goods and tell the whole truth and ask them to find those people. But my guess is Ishwari did nothing of the sort. She decided to just keep it and use it for herself as they were in dire need.

It is one of the driving factors of both Ishwari and Bijoy. Both of them preach Absolute morality, but they themselves follow relative morality. That is where the feeling of being a goddess (Ishwari) and perfect (Bijoy) comes from. Both Ishwari and Bijoy believe in absolute morals. Both think that they have given that kind of upbringing to their kids where they uphold these morals and values. For Ishwari and Bijoy to be able to accept Dev and Sonakshi's relationship, both have to be in a same place. Meaning both need to realize and understand the relative morality they exercise in relation to their family.

For a person like Ishwari keeping that money and lie that she won a lottery would have been a very big deal to go against the morals and values she believed in. Bijoy has not yet realized the consequences of his actions regarding his pride and ego, what he did to Sonakshi. But it will be one of the important things that he needs to realize(I hope the CVs show this).

If Ishwari really robbed that family, then whatever Dev has earned doesn't really belong to him. But if she only found the loot and as I mentioned was not able to return it to the owners so she kept it and used it, then I feel that whatever he has earned belongs to him.

This is just my POV. 😊 . Not intended to hurt anyone.

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Harryfan011

@Harryfan011

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Posted: 8 years ago

#60

Originally posted by: Samanalyse
@Suyash and BH: I don't think that dialogue indicated inconsistency from Asha at all. It shows that she recognised Sona's need for Dev, even during the separation, but she also acknowledged that Sona and Dev could not be together because of what she assumed Dev was like. In those circumstances she figured that maybe Sona doesn't get to be with her soulmate in this lifetime -- because their values and families clashed so much, and their relationship made Sona miserable -- but why shouldn't Sona move on and live her life with an excellent partner like Jatin, if she should so choose?

Then, as she explained to Bijoy, she saw a different side of Dev when he came to stay with them. That gave her hope that maybe a relationship between Dev and Sona was possible after all; their differences were not as vast as Asha had expected, and they were still so affected by each other after all these years. What's more, both of them loved Soha with the same intensity. She was once again able to envision them as a couple, as a family.

So it's not inconsistency, but rather adaptation: Asha allowing her views to be flexible according to the evidence she has before her at any given moment, rather than being stuck on one idea or possibility and refusing to admit change. That flexibility is what makes her character stand out as mature and wise.

@Sam, thank you so much... I couldn't have expressed it any better... Your words were exactly what I wanted to say... Thank you for building on my post and bringing clarity to @bashingHater doubts and questions...