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Posted: 8 years ago
I can't believe that I am making another post on this forum... I became part of this forum in August, but after seeing the rising negativity in the forum, especially after Dev-Sona's marriage phase made me uncomfortable and I stopped coming to this site...
Until few weeks back, I joined this thread and enjoyed the atmosphere and mood of this thread until couple of days back... But, yesterday's episode left me so many questions that I was unable to find answers.. Usually, I come to this thread to find peace after watching an high-octane emotional episode... The writers and their ways of dissecting the characters and the plots make this thread so much more exciting and enjoyable...

Before, I begin, I must inform that I am a young man of 21 years, with no experience in relationships or issues like feminism (but, can someone tell me the difference between it and gender equality, if both speak about having the same rules for both men and women) or anything... So, if I insult or disrespect anyone's views or opinions, I apologise in advance..

While, I don't have any personal experience in relationships, I have observed marriages all around me, including that of my parents.. My parents have been married for nearly 24 years and most of the time, I see them arguing (in the verbal sense)... They yell at each other, call each other's family, as useless.. But, yet, they somehow make this relationship work... Despite all of their arguments and their differences in both views and ways of living their life, they have stood with each other through bad times as well as worse times...

On the other hand, I have seen the marriage between my uncle and aunt... And, when you look at them from a distance, you feel that how much they think alike and how similar are their thought processes... But, when you look closely, you realise that they also do have struggles in their lives.. Their struggles might not seem like a big thing to me but it doesn't mean that they didn't fight for their marriage...

But, in both cases, they put their relationship at the top of their priority list... And, I realised that any relationship takes a lot of hard work, especially marriages or parenthood...

A marriage ritual might take some few hours to complete, but to do it justice, you, along with your partner needs to work on it each and every day of your life... It might sound easy but it is not so... That's why, I feel so scared of failing at it... (I guess, I will be more nervous than my wife, when and if that day comes to my life)

My father once told me that my grandfather was never really a good father to him.. He told me of an incident when my grandfather didn't even know anything related to his academics.. But, I can't believe this statement of his since the my grandfather was responsible for my upbringing for the first six years (due to my twin sister's poor health and hence, my parents were more devoted to my sister during our infancy/toddler years)...

My grandfather fed me, told me stories, bathed me... So, for me, this statement of my father was unfathomable... And, the funny thing, when I asked my grandfather the same incident, he told me that he wished that he could be a father to his own children... But, he realised it too late...

I read somewhere, 'You only know how you went wrong as a parent, when you see your children as parents.'

But, this experience taught me that people change with times and their experiences and mistakes shape their lives.. And, they continue to change till their last breath..

Now, coming back to yesterday's episode, it was one of the episodes which left my mind in a state of chaos.. So many questions and thoughts, still continue to swirl inside my mind like a twister.. And, I need to write it or express it otherwise, I will not be able to function properly...

Sonakshi's statement that she loved Dev unconditionally.. But, he could never understand it since he was selfish and doesn't know anything else apart from his family...

This statement made me reel the most, not because of the accusations but because, how easy it is for us (individuals) to classify and differentiate something so simple as love..

I belong to the world of Computer Science, and I spend most of my days working in front of the screen for more than 12 hours a day... Even though, to the outside world, computers might sound so complicated but, in reality, from my perspective, they are 1000 times more simpler and easy to understand than human beings and especially, emotions...

Machines only do things which I ask it to do.. They interpret the world just as I would envision it but people, you say one thing, they understand the opposite.. They baffle me and hence, I try to avoid getting into the messy world of emotions...

In our wold (CS), everything is binary (either true or false) and I also believe that love is also binary in nature, either it exists or it does not exist... Things like true love, selfish/selfless love or conditional/ unconditional love doesn't enter my mind when I think of the concept (of love)...

I argue with my mother nearly all of the time, don't like her interfering in my life, and consider most of her suggestions nearly useless.. She yells at me for being irresponsible and I yell back at her for being lazy and too nosy... I, sometimes, forget to bring any presents on her birthday (unintentionally, well.. Sometimes not..)

But, that doesn't mean that I don't love her or she doesn't love me... For her, I am a terrible son and for me, she is a terrible mother.. (But, her Kheers or gajar ka halwas or biryanis.. In fact, anything, in which she puts her heart into, is to die for..)

But, we both know that we love each other and hence, doesn't question it.. Our personal equations might not be ideal but our love and affection for each other is and will always remain the same... It will not fade away with time..

So, my question is quite simple.. Why do we complicate and categorise things which are not supposed to be put into categories?? How can one classify something as pure as love into different categories??

When we do something for our near and dear ones, we do them to make them feel happy.. In their happiness and their smiles, lies our happiness... But, since, we are making them happy because they, indirectly contribute to our happiness, it makes us selfish, doesn't it?

Every individual involved in a relationship has certain expectations from their respective partners... They might not speak out aloud but they do have... It doesn't mean that they don't love their partners but they feel that their unsaid expectations will be fulfilled by their respective partners.. But, when they fail to achieve them and their relationships fail due to those unsaid expectations.. So, is their love, conditional or unconditional??

Either believe that love is indeed a combination of various shades, in a way that white light is also a combination of seven different colours... Or, if it is indeed pure, then don't pollute it by calling it selfish, conditional, unconditional, etc..
Edited by Harryfan011 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: hanishank


very well presented by Sam

Sona's transcendental love differed from Dev's demonstrative love.
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thanks for sharing this post Lakshmi
it given me a different approach to Devakshi relation




Beautiful Sam!!! Thank you so much for this!👏👏😊
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: thedramaqueen


What her mother does in her time should not be any of Soha's business. Just like what Dev does in hotel rooms should not be her business either. If Dev brings a girl home and spends time with her, Sonakshi and the society should not have a problem with that.

Opposite gender best friends is not a theoretical concept. It's a practical reality


Originally posted by: areeba_blossom



For what this season is worth, Sonakshi shouldn't bent in front of Dev. Her return towards Dev should be only after he acknowledges the extent of damage his lies did in order to keep her reigned-in in his life.

This woman has her share of flaws, and in front of the biggest failure of her life, she can't control the pain of her bruised pride but regardless, Sonakshi is twice as human as Dev Dixit is because the framework of our society doesn't allow women to become independent as easily as they allow a hardworking boy to rise to his potential.


Originally posted by: thedramaqueen


Jatin was fixing her earring in full view of the world. They probably ran into each other. They weren't meeting in a hotel room. They were sat in the car and they don't need to find reasons to meet. They have the office.

What would the society say when a young nutritionist was dropped every night by her young boss late at night? Or when she was in his room alone many times? These days this is common place. In urban population this is very common.

Sona has a life outside of being a mother. If she doesn't do that she will end up like those mothers who cling to their kids and we know who I am talking about 😃



Excellent posts ladies 👏👏
I am glad to be back 😳
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: deepsel

First things first ... Khatri is back (Grace join me😆). KRPKAB kitty is still loaded with surprises !! Time to revisit this thread I guess😉 https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/kuch-rang-pyar-ke-aise-bhi/4735821/what-if-the-past-is-much-darker




Now moving to brighter sides, am seriously disappointed how except Meher and Charu no one drooled on "Kya boloon" million bucks face from Dev to freshly showered Sona😲. This thread seriously need some fresh droolers here.. DQ aap bhi chup ?! not done😆 Mahua care for some gifs or pics to be shared on that scene here ?😳


Deepa di 🤗

Very happy to see you again (and Khatri too😆). I was really missing your posts.😳... Amazing post 👏
By the way, maine bhi drool kiya, I rewatched at least 5 times on YT😳 but post karte time likhna bhool gayi 😆😆... Devakshi ka after-effect 😉
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Posted: 8 years ago
Ladies oh I have so much to read
Deepa heya I will be back with my reply soon its weekend and I kinda wanted to unwind myself and enjoy lol

Keep it up guys
just follow rules DQ and Sam have repeatedly reminded them so have healthy discussion :)
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Posted: 8 years ago
Deepa, your GM wish is always my Command. And on that note, who does Sonakshi's head and shoulder massage in IN? They don't have a Gunni there do they ;-)
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Posted: 8 years ago
I rewatched the Friday's episode and found the camera work very interesting for the Asha - Bijoy convo. When they start talking both are on the couch next to each other. Then Bijoy walks to the front and his image is clear while Asha's is faded, not so clear. It is like that till Bijoy says that "Ishwari will never change, she cannot think beyond Her son". But after that Asha is shown in focus and after that even though Bijoy is in the front it is Asha's image which is clear and no t Bijoy's. It felt like an indication of shift in Sonakshi's character. She is both Asha and Bijoy. But right now she is very much reflective of Bijoy. But with the way that scene was shown, it was like even though Bijoy's image is in the forefront, it is Asha's influence which will be more visible.

In that convo between Bijoy and Asha, Asha says that Sonakshi is self righteous. But is Sonakshi really that self righteous that she never makes any mistakes and is never wrong. Is she always right and correct. Is being correct all the time more important than anything else in life.

I know I have made compromises in life. Is it that bad to sometime compromise and just accept I am wrong even when I am not and I know that. Ex -- when my son was small, I had not cut his hair. He had a ponytail and I had also had his ears pierced. Sometimes in mall and places like that he was confused for a girl and I usually did not bother correcting them. It was like what is the big deal. If Sonakshi is the way one is supposed to be, am I that wrong. Did I really make such a huge mistake when I compromised on certain things. Something that I continue doing like I stay home with kids when they are not feeling well. I don't say I stayed home last time they were sick. I don't feel anything wrong in that. Is my moral compass screwed that I am not good anymore.

Sorry for the rant. Having too many thoughts on being Self Righteous. But if anyone can answer m, it is very much appreciated. Thank you. 😃
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: thedramaqueen

Not caring for the society is Dev's style, not Sona's. The society did nothing for Dev and his family. His mother was taunted for wear a torn saree instead of those upper class families giving her one of their old sarees. He thrived inspite of the society not because of it

Sona on the other hand cares for the society a lot. She follows the societal rules and I suppose we don't need to list them here

The society I am talking about will talk about Dev and Sona sharing a room when they aren't together anymore. What happens when Soha or Golu tell their friends this? Or mami tells this to Mrs mondal who then spreads this in her and Boses' common community?

Jatin is a friend and dev is perceiving him as a threat for no reason. What if he was a woman or gay and sona was starting get cabin fever and wanted a break? Sona is in a houseful of people. Does Dev not trust elena? Or does he think mami and/or vicky will harm soha? He looking in the wrong place.

Jatin was fixing her earring in full view of the world. They probably ran into each other. They weren't meeting in a hotel room. They were sat in the car and they don't need to find reasons to meet. They have the office.

What would the society say when a young nutritionist was dropped every night by her young boss late at night? Or when she was in his room alone many times? These days this is common place. In urban population this is very common.

Sona has a life outside of being a mother. If she doesn't do that she will end up like those mothers who cling to their kids and we know who I am talking about 😃


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Posted: 8 years ago
  1. :Self righteousness

    convinced of one's own righteousness especially in contrast with the actions and beliefs of others : narrow-mindedly moralistic


    This is the way it was defined by marriam Webster and it is almost same as per others like Cambridge . Self righteousness is thinking that they have higher morals when compared with others. The person who thinks he or she possesses this is smug and arrogant for thinking so. It is a trait that is not hailed but criticised for valid reasons.


    Shaavi your post left me deliberate and wonder how important self righteousness is . In comparison compromise always helps in the growth of a person. You compromised and stayed with your child it gives you mental peace. It makes your child happy and it makes your family relieved since no one can take care of the child better than a mother. One compromise achieved all this for you. So I feel that compromise is worth the sacrifice you did by foregoing your other responsibilities.I hope I could convey what I wanted to.


    Sonakshi's self righteousness is causing hindrance in seeing sense in others ' opinions.She made a choice to go out leaving Soha on Elena which is just right in her view. In her self righteous mode she becomes over confident of her ability to take decision since she always feels she is perfect in every way.If Dev pointed out she is wrong in roaming with Jatin without attending Soha she will attribute it to his jealousy. She fails to realise the propriety of staying by Soha because she doesn't even think she may do a wrong thing.


    So self righteous ness doesn't convey that a self righteous person is always correct. They feel they are right and look down on others.Sonakshi also is prone to do mistakes but she fails to accept them. Reason? Self righteousness.

Edited by ltelidevara - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
My interpretation of that comment was that sona keeps the moral high ground. So, if someone does something wrong to her(e.g. vicky or mami type acts), she will not try to get them and will do what she would do to any other person -kindness. Dev already knows that 😃

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