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Posted: 8 years ago
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I don't think we can call it a bad episode. I think you mean that some actions that happened in the episode today were not appropriate morally.

But it just added a dimension to the characters and was done to show some depth to their current mindset. We got to know that Dev in a way holds the slap incident responsible for the failure. That's why in anger it came up. And also shows a shade of Asha where she chooses to remain calm for the sake of other's happiness (which indirectly is her own too). I don't know how Dev is going to look her in the eye next time. Asha is someone who has always supported everyone's decision and to hurt her can make even the strongest person feel guilty. Lets see
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tunotuno

Thanks for this post. One of the reasons I avoid posting anything on this forum is because of the immense negetivity and character bashing. You rightly said...noone is perfect.

And for those who have been rooting for Sonakshi being perfect...she isnt either. there is noone per say. And honestly speaking, I didnt even find yesterday's episode bad. What was wrong. Just a blurt out. Is it a criminal offense ?

Some people say, that Dev should slap his mother, kill his mother..would that make is good? Is there nothing good in his character?

I think all characters in the show have some extreme characteristics and we should respect that and move forward than having a miopic view and being biased.

I guess for ages, we have been blinded by typical Saas Bahu saaga and expect some dramatic things to happen all the time. But it doesnt happen in reality. Ask yourself, if all the things that you are asking of a character for the sake or right and wrong, would you do it yourself. There is a huge difference between Should and Would.

My two cents. But I am aware that I would get bashed by tons again..

We r not asking dev to slap his mother. I understand ish is a single mother with a terrible past. Not blind to that. But she has been given a life of luxury and love and still she Harbour these insecurities. It's not only insecurity, she wants to be the sole important person in devs life. It does not work like that. In life u hav to share ur lived ones with a lot of ppl. Ish just wants to grab others happiness and wants to live in her own bubble.,which is not healthy. Coming to them the dude seriously needs lessons in empathy.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: mily_mathew

We r not asking dev to slap his mother. I understand ish is a single mother with a terrible past. Not blind to that. But she has been given a life of luxury and love and still she Harbour these insecurities. It's not only insecurity, she wants to be the sole important person in devs life. It does not work like that. In life u hav to share ur lived ones with a lot of ppl. Ish just wants to grab others happiness and wants to live in her own bubble.,which is not healthy. Coming to them the dude seriously needs lessons in empathy.



Each of you are right in your own perspectives ...and so are the characters in the serial...every one has a shade of grey with its own gravity...Us as viewers opinions differ is primarily because of age diff, our individual experience , cultural background etc...

Let me take my own example...20 years back if I had seen this serial , trust me I would say Dev is the antagonist and would have hated Sonakshi to even let him know about Soha. I would not have wanted her to even get Soha close to him...

but now that is not the case...after falling in love...getting married to a single child ...person from diff culture speaking diff language , diff eating habit etc ...and years into marriage has taught me that colours of life cant be limited to black and white...there are different colours and each colour has its greys too...we cant spend time taking all the greys out of these colours because if you do that then there you wont have peace of mind or will have time to enjoy essence of life...so ...some you have to ignore...some you have to clean ...some you have to live with ...and colours that hurt you and cant be tolerated have to be kept away too..

So yes 20 yrs more to me changed my perspective abt some aspect of life...was I wrong when I was 20 NOPE...am I wrong now NOPE... its just that my patience , tolerance level and depth in understand of people increased...hence in a better position to bring in more peace to family thru amicable ways ...

Honestly , I feel Soha is bringing in emotional stability in DEV...if not Dev Dixit epologising that too Bijoy...I hope we see more of Dev's change in character because of Soha...

One thing I liked is that they are not showing redemption as a track with too much melodrama...rather showing it as a parallel track with the others ...which means this so called change in characters for good or bad will go on till the end...a natural , slow and steady process...isn't that what happens in life too...
Edited by WeRockTheWorld - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tunotuno

Thanks for this post. One of the reasons I avoid posting anything on this forum is because of the immense negetivity and character bashing. You rightly said...noone is perfect.

And for those who have been rooting for Sonakshi being perfect...she isnt either. there is noone per say. And honestly speaking, I didnt even find yesterday's episode bad. What was wrong. Just a blurt out. Is it a criminal offense ?

Some people say, that Dev should slap his mother, kill his mother..would that make is good? Is there nothing good in his character?

I think all characters in the show have some extreme characteristics and we should respect that and move forward than having a miopic view and being biased.

I guess for ages, we have been blinded by typical Saas Bahu saaga and expect some dramatic things to happen all the time. But it doesnt happen in reality. Ask yourself, if all the things that you are asking of a character for the sake or right and wrong, would you do it yourself. There is a huge difference between Should and Would.

My two cents. But I am aware that I would get bashed by tons again..


Exactly. I completely agree with you. Most of the viewers wants to make it a perfect serial. Then there wont be any story.

This show portraits the human nature; obsession, possessiveness, love, hatred, jealousy, nosy relatives, etc.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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well written , i want devakshi united. this is a very nice show, cant afford to lose it, infact this is the only timepass for me frm my tight work schedule nd as u rightly said, we r not watching a sanskari show.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tunotuno

Its called a Psychological desorder. Its a mental condition that requires treatment. We are surrounded by such people, and a lot of them. Its difficult for an individual and the family members to accept the condition as a psychological desorder and seek treatment, most importantly noone accepts it. And it worsens with time. All that I am saying is..when you judge..if you are doing that..and which I see everybody is doing that...then judge with totality.. And I dont think, the makers have spoiled Dev's character...or any such characters. Those are the shades of each character in the show..and over a period of time because of their acts..what they get and what they lose. Thats all about it.

Somebody said. Dev raised his hand..and would not tolerate injustice for women. Did he raise his hand on a woman? Did he first of all raise his hand. Come on guys...let the directors have some creative liberty. Its a bit of dramatisation to show how his hands move up to fold and to remind the viewers that he did raise his hand by mistake once.


No one judged da. Just like in life we have our priorities and choices,so when it is a show it has.Im someone who signed up for this show not because of devakshi love story but because of Ish's insecurities.First time i saw a complete grey character.I totally understood her as a lonely mother when she gave that speech for Dev on her birthday.But lately her character does not make sense and to top that they are butchering others just to justify her insecurities just because her star value is more.

She is coming across as self centered,selfish and narcissistic.

Her dialogues Ill note some of them down does not stem from insecurities but a deep need to stay in control of her son's life.

"Dev aur suhana ke beech sonakshi kya kar rahi hain"
"Agar boses ko pareshan kia toh unke saath meri poti bhi hain?
and the list is endless.

Do you seriously expect ppl to not judge such a character.I cannot seriously empathize with such a character coz given her way she can wreak havoc.

She wont flinch twice before taking soha away from sona.

She needs to be treated and regulated,but ppl are fanning her over inflated ego.

Its always abt I,me myself.Do you know how unhealthy an environment such a person creates??


Im just scared for Sona coz she is the one who paid the price without any reason.

Dev is her son and has the obligation.

If we are talking abt realistic portraying.
In reality no DIL will be as tolerating as Sona,no son will be as delusional as Dev. His moms insecurities are there for everyone to see.Still he conveniently blames Sona.And on most occasions they deliberately dumb down sona or dont give her strong dialogues just to cater to the heros star value.They never show the emotional journey of sona.What she feels or thinks is still a mystery other than few statments here and there.

My problem with Dev is not that he raised his hand at bijoy.My problem is his partial reasoning when it comes to his family and others.

In my eyes that is wrong so ill call out for that.I always belive in standing up for the ones i love.And Dev is not a weak person,he can stand up for Ish that means he just chose to not stand up for Sona.

Forget Ish he could not even shut up Neha(she is his younger sis rite).

Isnt it very obvious Dev;s love is as per his convenience.

Or the script and screenplays have major glitches that it is coming across so.

I love this show.That's why i take the pain to criticize.This is the first time i have participated in any forum for any show.

I did not find any other Indian show worth my analysis.

But that doesnt mean ill accept that is thrown at me.

If tommorw Sona(I dont think so) behaves as an ass,Ill call her out also.

I
Edited by mily_mathew - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Dev is perfect as Dev Dixit yes he has many flaws like any other guy
but he is someone many guys can relate too
Makers have a brilliant story at hand they just need to mould out according to their desires and not want certain group of audiences or fans want
bashing is something that gets to me at a certain point I do tend to then stay away from all that negativity and concentrate on my career but I suppose we cannot do anything that's how certain people are they cannot appreciate certain flaws in a person neither can theu appreciate the good the person does
Dev has been bashed whether he does good or bad its actually horrible that in the eyes of certain people he will never be able to be seen just as a person a guy that is also learning as life takes him on his journey
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Posted: 8 years ago
#28
True but why always bash dev for everything 😆
I mean only mistake he did that he asked asha about bijoy but I didn't find anything wrong with dev bijoy scene

Ohh just he was angry on bijoy then he became mama boy
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No matter what but anyone will do same with bijoy 😡

No matter how much u r angry on your parents but No one will tolerate if any outsider will say stuff about ur parents

Bijoy have given reason for Dev to be angry
Didn't we get angry when anyone will say bad stuff about our Mother ?

And it doesn't mean dev lift his hand then it means he was going to slap him only.

Maybe it can also be seen like that dev doesn't want to fold hand in front of him but just did that because of little bit bijoy left his respect for him.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: rahulvats12

True but why always bash dev for everything 😆

I mean only mistake he did that he asked asha about bijoy but I didn't find anything wrong with dev bijoy scene

Ohh just he was angry on bijoy then he became mama boy
😆
No matter what but anyone will do same with bijoy 😡

No matter how much u r angry on your parents but No one will tolerate if any outsider will say stuff about ur parents

Bijoy have given reason for Dev to be angry
Didn't we get angry when anyone will say bad stuff about our Mother ?

And it doesn't mean dev lift his hand then it means he was going to slap him only.

Maybe it can also be seen like that dev doesn't want to fold hand in front of him but just did that because of little bit bijoy left his respect for him.



Maybe Bijoy doesn't want Dev anywhere near him and atleast not in his house at his table?

In this day and age, anyone with a bit of manners towards others and self respect wouldn't ever go back into the house of people who they hurt. Even if they step in they wouldn't expect respect.

Dev, for all that education and his mum's love, doesn't fit what we would expect a man of high social standing to behave.

Seems to revel in his sympathy card forever - no time to play, no toys to play, no friends, no money, all the hard work, my girlfriend left me, my wife left me, my daughter was hidden from me... really, what about all the things he was given in life?

His mother's love and trust were given on a golden plate to him. He absolutely lied to her, hurt her and behaves as if it is all her problem. People don't go into depression, insecurity for no reason, its people around them who drive them to it.

People like Dev are permanently 'my glass is half empty' sort!


Edited by jigsaw1234 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Y only bad, bashing happens in good episode also !
See this is called unbiased philosophy, Good or bad bashing is the only constant.

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