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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: yyy



are you saying if we compromise a little bit in a relationship then we are losing our self respect ? If that was the case then no relationship would exist in this world .Itvwas Sonakshi's decision to be with Dev forgetting last 7yrs and Asha asked her to respect that and make it work by seeing from other person's perspective.Asha did not force Sona to stay with Dev or come up with this not so practical week to week shifting .

There is a thin line between ego and self respect .i justify what I believe in and what I have seen around me .I don't believe feminism is equal to prefencial treatment or refusing to accept my loved ones mistake .I believe feminism is equal rights and Same rules for men n women .I also believe compromise is needed in every relationship and one doesn't become small if they compromise .Again I know the difference betweeen compromise and abuse .I have the guts to accept my mistakes n my loved ones and that doesn't make me a weak person or doormat . I know my rights and won't abuse that .I believe in what I say here and follow the same



Sorry, don't think my writing spoke about feminism or about compromise = losing self respect. I am not questioning your courage or strength either.

Yes, I was asking if Asha struggled through her life and refused to call it quits, 7 years ago when they were on the street, why did she instigate Sona to fight for her self respect? Why did she not ask Sona to sit calmly and think? Why didn't she offer to wait another day and go and speak to Dev/Dixits?

The answer is this: Only the one who suffers from migraine knows the pain. 7 years ago when they were all in the same boat, Asha forgot the compromise but today when Sona's troubles are different to Asha's, she is able to advice. And of course, it suits appeals to some of us and not to others!




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Posted: 8 years ago
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Honestly speaking.. how are we supposed to debate about Asha's marriage struggles when she herself has accepted in past that she didn't have to go through any pain or suffering at the hands of both her hubby and her MIL. Just to justify Dev and Ishwari's crappy behavior they are trying to show how Bijoy is also bad.. 🤪
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: mehraan

I dunt think Asha was comparing her situations or problems with regards to Sona...the point she was referring to is the word PERFECT!..Nothing is perfect...Be it marraige,partner or life... The idea of Perfection is an illusion !.To strive for a balanced happy life one has to undergo lot of sacrifices n adjustments to make it happening n succesful...Thats what she meant...She was neither justifying Dev nor bitching about Bijoy...Nor was boasting about her struggles..but talking about the mindsets of many who deemed to be or that is perfectly ideal which is envisoned n dreamt but in reality such notions dont exist...One has to work for it to achieve it to be close to real n perfect...be it relationship or other important facets in life!

Words by asha were very wise but it was out of context when one keeps sona and dev in the situation. Sona's anger towards dev was justified in that scene and all those questions to asha regarding dev's ease at their doomed marriage. Sona thought bijoy was best husband which asha denied as rightfully only she can claim how much bijoy is best husband but here the problem I have is that it doesn't matter to me or the story whether bijoy was a bad husband or good. Yes dev and bijoy should not be compared as they r different people but every daughter does compare that. But asha's words today will not help devakshi anyhow. It seemed like as if asha was telling that sona has to adjust and compromise with dev's attitude or as if sona didnt compromise and adjust enough when she was still married which was unfair. Dev's attitude today was wrong and too much to digest for a devakshi shipper like me.
Edited by Shlroy - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I don't think they are showing bijoy to be bad.

Asha is correcting this notion of sona of a perfect relationship. She was conveying to sona not to base her relationships on what she sees in others that's all. As a married woman I had to work a lot on my relationship with my husband in the initial days but I would not call it a struggle by any means.

I had a problem when she doesn't let sona communicate with dev. There is a lot that needs to be said between the 2 & they need to do that before going to IN. Also dev is seething when somebody insults his mom but has no remorse when he does it to somebody else.

His character flip flop really bothers me.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shlroy

It was educative to know that asha too did lot of adjustment and compromises as no marriage is easy. Yes now bijoy is loud, over reactive, short tempered and I can imagine that would have been many times higher when bijoy was in his youth. But her struggle in past and in present too to control bijoy and his anger is nowhere near sona's struggle to get accepted by an over possessive for his son mother in law, uncultured extended family of husband's which comprises of a gold digger mami and cheapo brother in law plus an always unsatisfied divorced sister in law with no or next to no public support from her husband.

Asha giving advice to not compare bijoy and dev is right but not letting sona question dev even in calm manner is just derailing and holding on to the evitable.
Devakshi should not fight in front of soha but keeping unsolved problems hidden is just gonna make both bitter and accumulation of anger


I think what Asha is saying is that Sona could've worked on her relationship and accepted her partners flaws more readily than she did. Relationships aren't one way streets. Both parties have a role in how conflicts are managed. Dev has flaws. But Sona didn't do a great job of making her relationship work within the constraints of his flaws. She kept expecting him to change instead of changing her expectations like Asha did.

On a different thread someone, a few weeks ago, brought up the point that if Asha was in Sona's situation maybe the outcome would've been different. I agree with that. Asha is a little more accepting and understanding than Sona.

Sona's fundamental flaw is this need to be seen as "perfect". Sona's inlaws sucked. But the problem was Sona had this need to be perceived as the "perfect" bahu. But Dev never needed that from her. If anything he never wanted her to interfere in the family matters with Neha etc. But even she interfered in Neha's life with disastrous consequences, Dev accepted that as part of who she was. For good or for bad. Same way Dev's qualities also had a good and bad component. If he can accept her intrusive actions by giving her the benefit of the doubt, he would also do the same for his mother that he also loves. Understanding those qualities and working with him would've been far more productive for their marriage.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: purva

Honestly speaking.. how are we supposed to debate about Asha's marriage struggles when she herself has accepted in past that she didn't have to go through any pain or suffering at the hands of both her hubby and her MIL. Just to justify Dev and Ishwari's crappy behavior they are trying to show how Bijoy is also bad.. 🤪


But I think that is Asha's nature that she doesn't consider her accepting Bijoy for who he was as pain or suffering. For her it was a part and parcel of a normal marriage that your partner has flaws that drive you up the wall. You learn to accept them and live with them. And they do the same for you. And as she said with time Bijoy mellowed. There is a difference between saying Bijoy wasn't a perfect husband vs that he put her through undue pain and suffering.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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How many among us would agree or compromise with the husband , who slapped your father? Yikes..
Is there any logical explanation or excuse for that.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: malikakas


I think what Asha is saying is that Sona could've worked on her relationship and accepted her partners flaws more readily than she did. Relationships aren't one way streets. Both parties have a role in how conflicts are managed. Dev has flaws. But Sona didn't do a great job of making her relationship work within the constraints of his flaws. She kept expecting him to change instead of changing her expectations like Asha did.

On a different thread someone, a few weeks ago, brought up the point that if Asha was in Sona's situation maybe the outcome would've been different. I agree with that. Asha is a little more accepting and understanding than Sona.

Sona's fundamental flaw is this need to be seen as "perfect". Sona's inlaws sucked. But the problem was Sona had this need to be perceived as the "perfect" bahu. But Dev never needed that from her. If anything he never wanted her to interfere in the family matters with Neha etc. But even she interfered in Neha's life with disastrous consequences, Dev accepted that as part of who she was. For good or for bad. Same way Dev's qualities also had a good and bad component. If he can accept her intrusive actions by giving her the benefit of the doubt, he would also do the same for his mother that he also loves. Understanding those qualities and working with him would've been far more productive for their marriage.

Yes absolutely its not like sona is free from any mistakes or faults. Definitely when she was married this was her biggest flaw becoz thats her nature that she wanted to be the best bahu and to be accepted and loved by everyone like she was in Bose house and in that quest she overstepped and was overdoing everything which was not required.
But my problem is CVS are showing 2 perspective of asha, she basically said to sona today that she should be and should have been more compromising with dev's flaws. That means letting go even if dev raises his hands to slap his ex father in law and grandfather of his daughter and then questioning his ex mother in law why and how she is still living with her husband. Which I can never digest this or let go as any sane person should do.
If she thinks that sona should have been more accepting with dev's flaws then why did she support her during the divorce. Isn't that hypocrisy??? Thats my POV
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Aditinarendra

How many among us would agree or compromise with the husband , who slapped your father? Yikes..

Is there any logical explanation or excuse for that.

Absolutely not for me. There is limit to being understanding, adjusting and compromising. Dev's today's actions would have been absolutely deal breaker for me 😭
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: preethik

I don't think they are showing bijoy to be bad.

Asha is correcting this notion of sona of a perfect relationship. She was conveying to sona not to base her relationships on what she sees in others that's all. As a married woman I had to work a lot on my relationship with my husband in the initial days but I would not call it a struggle by any means.

I had a problem when she doesn't let sona communicate with dev. There is a lot that needs to be said between the 2 & they need to do that before going to IN. Also dev is seething when somebody insults his mom but has no remorse when he does it to somebody else.

His character flip flop really bothers me.

Exactly.
Anger ruins things but after sona got calm a proper conversation should take place between devakshi.
Dev's behavior nows leaves me baffled how come he was gonna raise his hand on bijoy with so small statement towards ishu which cannot b called insult too and does not even feels a pinch when sona and her entire family was badly shamed, insulted and taunted

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