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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Aditinarendra

How many among us would agree or compromise with the husband , who slapped your father? Yikes..

Is there any logical explanation or excuse for that.


But Dev didn't slap Bijoy so its a moot question. Dev had his back turned to Bijoy talking to Ishwari and when he turned accidentally hit him. To which he apologized profusely. Bijoy took it as an insult but that's on Bijoy. Dev even came to his house to apologize.

It would be a big difference if Dev consciously, knowingly chose to slap Bijoy. Again this is another area that the Boses could've handled things better. Bijoy chose not to give Dev the benefit of the doubt. Thats how relationships fail.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: malikakas


But I think that is Asha's nature that she doesn't consider her accepting Bijoy for who he was as pain or suffering. For her it was a part and parcel of a normal marriage that your partner has flaws that drive you up the wall. You learn to accept them and live with them. And they do the same for you. And as she said with time Bijoy mellowed. There is a difference between saying Bijoy wasn't a perfect husband vs that he put her through undue pain and suffering.


Well then she shouldn't have mentioned it as a justification for Dev's anger today. She mentioned Bijoy's taunts to Dev.. had she gone deaf when Dev was taunting Bijoy? Was she blind not to see how Dev almost slapped Bijoy today?
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Aditinarendra

How many among us would agree or compromise with the husband , who slapped your father? Yikes..

Is there any logical explanation or excuse for that.


Not me.. never..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shlroy

Yes absolutely its not like sona is free from any mistakes or faults. Definitely when she was married this was her biggest flaw becoz thats her nature that she wanted to be the best bahu and to be accepted and loved by everyone like she was in Bose house and in that quest she overstepped and was overdoing everything which was not required.
But my problem is CVS are showing 2 perspective of asha, she basically said to sona today that she should be and should have been more compromising with dev's flaws. That means letting go even if dev raises his hands to slap his ex father in law and grandfather of his daughter and then questioning his ex mother in law why and how she is still living with her husband. Which I can never digest this or let go as any sane person should do.
If she thinks that sona should have been more accepting with dev's flaws then why did she support her during the divorce. Isn't that hypocrisy??? Thats my POV


Okay I see your perspective. But for me Dev did not slap Bijoy in Season 1. He accidentally hit him, for which Dev apologized immediately. He was also made to go through public humiliation when he came to apologize at Bijoy's house. So I think that's why Asha was more sympathetic towards him. I think Asha understands Dev's basic nature is of a good person. She sees how he is with Soha, She sees that he cares about Saurabh. She knows when Dev is given respect he is given it in return. So I can see why Asha says what she says.

So I don't think Dev was going to slap Bijoy even in today's episode. I think he made a show of it because that is what Bijoy expects of him. Like what Sam's says in her thread. http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4823222&TPN=24

As for questioning why his MIL is living with his FIL-- again I think Asha understood it was a moment of anger from Dev and not something he truly meant. By not saying anything in return it actually forced him to get a grip of himself and apologize on his own. I think that's what Asha was saying about understanding someone's flaws and working with them. Dev is impulsive when angry and says stupid things. I think Asha has probably learned how to deal with that from Bijoy. So she knows how to handle people in moments like that. Retorting back usually instigates a bigger fight.

As for why Asha supported the divorce... I don't think its hypocrisy. Asha is allowed to be human. She may have had a human moment where she supported the divorce. But now with time and a cooler head she sees what went wrong. Particularly when she is seeing how caring and sweet Dev actually is. I also don't know that Asha is telling Sona to be more accepting of Dev's flaws is about the past or whether she means it more in the current day about how to work with Dev as Soha's parents. I also think she wanted to clarify Sona's perfection ideal-- that Bijoy is not perfect. For any future relationship Sona needs to understand that.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: purva


Well then she shouldn't have mentioned it as a justification for Dev's anger today. She mentioned Bijoy's taunts to Dev.. had she gone deaf when Dev was taunting Bijoy? Was she blind not to see how Dev almost slapped Bijoy today?

Where was Dev taunting Bijoy? I actually thought he was very pleasant at the dining table. Even though Bijoy ensured he wouldn't have anything to eat... Dev wasn't really rude to him. Dev was only rude after Bijoy talked about Golu and Ishwari. Maybe Asha thought that it was justifiable anger?

I think Asha gave Dev the benefit of the doubt over whether he'd slap Bijoy. I personally don't believe Dev would've slapped Bijoy. Didn't we hear his slip of tongue when her referred to him as "baba". Secretly Dev still thinks of him as a father figure. I think that's what Asha thinks too.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: malikakas

Where was Dev taunting Bijoy? I actually thought he was very pleasant at the dining table. Even though Bijoy ensured he wouldn't have anything to eat... Dev wasn't really rude to him. Dev was only rude after Bijoy talked about Golu and Ishwari. Maybe Asha thought that it was justifiable anger?

I think Asha gave Dev the benefit of the doubt over whether he'd slap Bijoy. I personally don't believe Dev would've slapped Bijoy. Didn't we hear his slip of tongue when her referred to him as "baba". Secretly Dev still thinks of him as a father figure. I think that's what Asha thinks too.



I mean Dev's taunts since he entered Bose house.. you think they were any less than Bijoy's taunt today? So Asha should also understand where Bijoy is coming from and not dis him like that in front of Sona. Why all the benefit of doubt only for Dev and none for her husband of so many years? That's hypocritical IMO.


And just because Dev called him baba does not mean he respects him as father figure. Baba bolke thappad marne se achcha hai Mr. Bijoy hi bolo
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: purva



I mean Dev's taunts since he entered Bose house.. you think they were any less than Bijoy's taunt today? So Asha should also understand where Bijoy is coming from and not dis him like that in front of Sona. Why all the benefit of doubt only for Dev and none for her husband of so many years? That's hypocritical IMO.

Firstly I don't think Dev's taunts to Bijoy were that big of a deal. Bijoy got upset over the newspaper. Dev picked it up and set it aside nicely. Dev's taunts aren't coming across very seriously to me. Seeing Asha and Dadi giggling over it says to me that Asha felt that too.

Secondly, I absolutely think Asha understands where Bijoy is coming from. So does Dev for that matter. But understanding where someone is coming from is different from thinking their reaction is the best one. Asha clearly felt Bijoy was out of line for his remarks on Ishwari and came to apologize to Dev. But I also think that if Asha felt she was responsible for Dev-- she would've explained to him that his reaction wasn't appropriate either. But Asha probably doesn't feel comfortable explaining to Dev.

I don't believe Asha "dissed" her husband in front of Sona. She is just telling Sona the truth that no one is perfect. Bijoy has a temper that has affected their relationship too. But Asha learned to deal with it to have the solid marriage that they have. Asha is calling a spade where she sees it. She is seeing that Sona's belief in Bijoy's perfection is detrimental to her. She needs to know that her father has flaws.

I think what Asha realizes that you can't control others but you can control your reactions to them. Everyone is correct from their point of view. But when we are in conflict with others how we get our point of view across and learn to understand others makes a difference in a lasting relationship. I think Asha's point was that everyone needs to improve. If Dev taunts Bijoy, Bijoy shouldn't take the bait and vice versa. Two wrongs don't make a right. In the same way Bijoy and Dev need to work on their anger issues and Asha and Sona need to work on their reaction to the temper tantrums. If one person makes a start slowly the other reactions mellow.


And just because Dev called him baba does not mean he respects him as father figure. Baba bolke thappad marne se achcha hai Mr. Bijoy hi bolo

Again maybe you believed he would've slapped Bijoy, I don't believe he would've.

Edited by malikakas - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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^^ So basically anything Dev does is not a big deal for you. Looks like what you believe and what I believe is completely different. So let's just leave it at that. Because no amount of typing is going to achieve anything when our beliefs are so different to begin with. We would be running around in circles typing same things over and over 😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Was bijoy and his mom obsessed with each other in unique way? If no, basic compromises and sacrifices are part of every married life from both the sides. The way Asha keep taking sides of outsiders, I wonder how did bijoy successfully lived with her for so many years? Bijoy has temper issue, Asha loves to insult her husband in front of outsiders, both might have adjusted with each other.
Sona was never accepted in that house. She was always treated like an outsider. Her husband was just bedroom king, MIL was a nut case, rest were just gold diggers.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: purva

^^ So basically anything Dev does is not a big deal for you. Looks like what you believe and what I believe is completely different. So let's just leave it at that. Because no amount of typing is going to achieve anything when our beliefs are so different to begin with. We would be running around in circles typing same things over and over 😊


That's fair. But may I ask what taunts in particular bothered you? I am just watching the episode again right now. I just feel like Dev and Bijoy are playing with each other. Bijoy smacking Dev's hand when he tries to open the dish. I find it very cute. Dev also did say that he understands why Bijoy is upset with him in the previous episode.

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