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sia.krpkab

@sia.krpkab

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Posted: 8 years ago

#191

Originally posted by: thedramaqueen

I don't think Ishwari "hates" Sonakshi. What she hates to see is that the most favourite person in her world ended up hurt and in pain after Sonakshi left her house. She refuses to acknowledge how big a role she played in that event.

In this one-dimensional outlook of hers, Ishwari forgot that Sonakshi is a mother to her poti, just like she is to Dev and therefore her act of thinking that she can bring in Suhana and keeping Sona away is not just inconsiderate but shameless, evil and supremely selfish.

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Enlightened21

@Enlightened21

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Posted: 8 years ago

#192

DEAR ONES...THIS IS A POST ON MY REAL LIFE EXPERIENCE I SHARED ON ANOTHER THREAD IN THIS FORUM...JUST THOUGHT OF SHARING IT HERE TOO...😊

Originally posted by: grace4317

How about staying with the same person, who after spending 5-6hrs with me in the labour room and being the first person to hold our son, went and complained to his mother that night that they did a big mistake of getting him married to me, without enquiring much about our financial background...and that too, when this child was special as I had a miscarriage almost 12 months back. The more important thing is that I came to know about this conversation between mother & son almost 8 months after it happened and that too on a day when I had to give back to my MIL, when she insulted my parents as money-grabbers...😊. I am not joking...this is my real life experience and I am now leading a very happy & blissful life with that same person...And to be frank, my hubby is not a handsome guy as Dev; but rather he is a gem of person at heart.
Don't roll your eyes, when I say he is a gem of a person...He is indeed one among few, who don't keep grudges even to those who tortured/insulted him during his childhood days...I will just explain what happened to him that day inorder to behave or talk like this. After my first miscarriage, within 2 months I again got pregnant; and due to the first case, I was on bedrest for 5 months...As we are living abroad, there was no one to support us physically, except some of our friends...And those days, since he was new to his job he had to even spent late nights at office...On top of it, as we both were the eldest in our families, we had to be support system of our families...especially for him, as he was the bread-winner of their family and same like in the case of Dev, it was him & his mother who brought the family of 3 out of poverty...So, without anyone to give him a mental, physical & financial support and in addition due to the office timings, towards the time of delivery he was getting exhausted. I couldn't go to my parent's house, as they were already burdened with the studies of my younger siblings & were financially stressed those days...My hubby didn't force me too...And since I was in such a state, he didn't want share his worries with me...Two days previous to the date of delivery I got admitted to the hospital due to some discharge; That night my hubby had to be in the office full night due to some urgent work and then next day afternoon he missed his afternoon nap also, as I was getting discharged since there was no improvement in my dilation...Later that night by 10pm pain started; but since I knew that my hubby was tired due to sleep-deprivation, I told him about the pain only 3hrs later. after I was convinced that he had a good sleep atleast for those 2-3 hrs...From then onwards, for the next 14hrs he was with me through-out the whole process...One point to be noted is, he is a person who turns his face at the sight of blood or a person in pain...Yet, that same person was with me calming me down, comforting me and making me feel special...Later, after my delivery, he had to go to the airport to pick my MIL who was coming that night to take care of me and the child...And by the time he reached home, he got exhausted due to lot of things - 12 months of frustration of having noone to share his griefs & worries, 2days of sleep deprivation, seeing my state in the labour room etc etc. To add to it, most of his friends who married at the same time had lots of support from his in-laws in all ways...So in that state, if he poured out his heart to his mom in such a way, whom am I to judge him...After all, he is also a human being. I never questioned him on this incident...but, what annoyed me was he hid this conversation from me till I heard it from my MIL, 8 months later...Because, during all these 8 months I had to suffer lots of taunts & insults from my MIL and every time I was wondering what happened to her, as during the few days I stayed with her after marriage, she had treated me like a princess...Same as in the case of Ishwari, she was not angry with me as a person...she was angry with the person who brought pain to her son. So, if I had knew about the conversation earlier, it could have avoided lots of hurt & pain I had to endure those 8 months...But, I don't regret those 8 months at all, because i see it as a period of time God used in my life, to teach me how strong we women are and how with little patience and mature thinking we can change our lives. On the other hand, if I had left with my son that day when I came to know all these, then for sure I would have regretted of depriving my son of having a wonderful father, of depriving my parents of having a very caring & loving son-in-law and last, but not the least, of depriving myself of a truly romantic & golden-hearted husband...☺️

Again, to be clear, I just shared my experience here not because I have any bitterness in me. But, rather it was an reply to your statement, ' in reality very few woman could forgive that'.

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thedramaqueen

@thedramaqueen

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Posted: 8 years ago

#193

sia.krpkab & jshukla - Totally. Its uncalled for and not fair on the father & mother of the child, the child themselves and their families.

What I am trying to say is, Ishwari didnt "hate" the person Sonakshi as much as she "hated" the person who brought her son immense happiness and then left him. She refuses to understand how she contributed to the situation

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sia.krpkab

@sia.krpkab

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Posted: 8 years ago

#194

Originally posted by: thedramaqueen
sia.krpkab & jshukla - Totally. Its uncalled for and not fair on the father & mother of the child, the child themselves and their families.

What I am trying to say is, Ishwari didnt "hate" the person Sonakshi as much as she "hated" the person who brought her son immense happiness and then left him. She refuses to understand how she contributed to the situation

DQ, I think she hates her as a person. Anyone who doesn't worship her being a part of dixit/tripathi family, licks her boots or thinks logically confronting her pedestal, she feels insecure and starts developing a strong dislike and eventually hatred towards that person. That's why she wasn't even remotely impacted by the presence of natasha earlier.

Ishwari doesn't want anyone to be the centre of gravity in that household and their lives, other than herself. She is still being manipulative when she throws a fit that Sona left you and all. Because had it been an honest person, she shouldn't have used 'Sona never came back to see you' thing with Dev, asking her to move on.

She has always been jealous of Sona's goodness, her pride which defies odds and insecure of dev-Sona's love and her support system in Boses. This all turned into hatred overtime and finally she manipulated everyone to ensure that there relationship failed.

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mehraan

@mehraan

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Posted: 8 years ago

#195

@Grace..Thankyou for sharing ur story dear..Its not so easy to write about all this in an open forum but hats off to u !..i did have my share of bitter experiences in14 yrs of my married life n im blessed also i didnot had to go through so much like others who had seen the worst scenarios...but When i see Devakshi n Ishu..i relate to my younger sister,exactly more on these lines n similar to the situations she had n is facing

Edited by mehraan - 8 years ago

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thedramaqueen

@thedramaqueen

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Posted: 8 years ago

#196

What Suhana is doing is "bachchon jaisee zid". That's what 6 year olds do sometimes, don't they? Sometimes they are unreasonable and their parents and guardians have to remind them with actions and words who is the adult in the room.

It really does not matter whether Suhana's parents can make it work or not. Her dad and her mother might just be at a stage where they cannot bear the other person at all. The complication here is, now when Dev & Sonakshi have stopped being stroppy with each other, Suhana has experienced a new feeling that she wants to keep on experiencing. Much like her dad... when he fell in love all he wanted was her lover to be his. She wants both her parents because that makes her feel nice. (I particularly enjoyed the Forbes Magazine throwback where she sits and admires her new family just like her mother used to admire her love interest)

From a story point of view, like Sam said, it's a story-device they are using to bring devakshi under the same roof. However, if you look at this in real life many kids end up having to make such choices. They are usually slightly older, more in their teens. And one of the option they consider of course must be, I wish they would stop fighting and live together. Golu already commented on how much bickering goes on between the pair of them.

What I particularly like about the way this has proceeded so far is that, the makers are not making Dev & Sonakshi feel incompetent at their roles as parents. Suhana was told by her mother and by her nani that Sona would not be able to live with her dad. She then asked her dad if that is possible. Her dad also told her it's not. Therefore, she has gone in her shell. With a million and one questions. Dev & Sonakshi are being asked to make this "perfect" set-up even better because of how Suhana has started imagining the new perfect.

This is where its getting quite appealing for me. They have now brought Devakshi to a point where they need to find answers for why it did not work. 7 years ago, they just left it hanging in the air playing a blame game. Suhana needs to be supported. As a starting point, her teacher should have been made aware. Luckily, for everyone, her best friend was in the class. However, as parents, Dev & Sonkashi should give her the space and time to process all this. Dev & Sonakshi could also go through her artwork and see if she is leaving any hints about her thought process.

I would like to congratulate the storywriter for bringing us all to this crossover where devakshi need to be parents first, children next and ex-spouses last

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Shaavi

@Shaavi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#197

@ Grace. Thanks for sharing your personal experience. I can totally understand how difficult it must have been for you. And am really happy that everything worked out and you now have a very happy life. 👏 👏

@ DQ. Wonderful post and totally agree with you. 👏. It will not be just Dev or Sonakshi introspecting, it will also be Bijoy and Ishwari doing the same. Suhana is a child who does not hesitate to question anything that she does not feel right. And she will not stop herself in asking Bijoy why he dislikes Dev so much or Ishwari why she fears Sonakshi. When questioned by Suhana am sure Bijoy or Ishwari will not have any answers leading them to introspect.

This was very much needed for the story to continue and yes kudos to the CVs and writers of this show to bring such an amazing story to life. ⭐️

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AbAnamika

@AbAnamika

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Posted: 8 years ago

#198

Has anyone seen the spoiler? I know maybe it is too early to comment, but I am getting more and more aghast by the murky shades of S2 Bijoy versus S1 Bijoy.

That whole serving Dev 'non-veg' to insult him and make him eat elsewhere. How low is that? Where is Bijoy's culture???

Even his pride and conceit allowing him to stoop to that level in front of Soha??? It doesn't make any sense to me.

Please, does anyone have any thoughts? Ishwari was already beyond redemption for me personally, but now, Bijoy is moving in that direction for me too.

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Shaavi

@Shaavi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#199

I just saw the segment with Dev living in Bose house and Bijoy serving him non veg. I had a few thoughts that I wanted to share.

I was surprised that in that sequence, Dev was show at the head of the table. 😲. Is it an indication to future?. hmmm. . Not sure at this time.

This is one of the rare shows were symbolisms are used to convey a lot of things. Today I rewatched the episode with Dev accidentally slapping Bijoy and Sona falling on Ishwari. I feel this is exactly what happened with Bijoy and Ishwari which they could not tolerate.

When Dev goes to Sonakshi Ritwick engagement, Bijjoy first comes to talk to Dev. At that time, he tells Dev that he means nothing to Sonakshi and that it is not hard to forget someone like him for his daughter. But in the next moment, he sees Sonakshi running to Dev as he as fallen down. Here from Bijoy's perspective, Sonakshi slapped him. What Dev did later was just a physical manifestation of that act.

The 5 crore is also similar to that. When Bijoy comes to meet Ishwari the first time after Dev -- Sonakshi's relationship is known, he talks to her in private. At that time, what Ishwari says is similar to what Sonakshi was later accused of. i.e. gold digger, thief etc. From Ishwai's perspective at that time, this is exactly what she thought Sonakshi did and conveyed it to Bijoy. I mean this is how Bijoy interpreted Ishwari's words. The money Dev gave was just a manifestation of what Bijoy and Ishwari had discussed that time.

Similarly when Dev started loving Sonakshi, Ishwari took a back seat, like in that scene where Ishwari is behind Sonakshi. Dev forcefully pushed Sonakshi which resulted in her falling on Ishwari. When Dev became self destructive and then questioned Ishwari, he kind of gave her little choice but to accept Sonakshi which she did for his happiness. All the while she tried to plead Sonakshi, the only thing she kept telling herself was she was doing all this for her sons happiness. The whole scene of falling down was an illustration of what Dev did by loving and marrying Sonakshi.

Following his loving Sonakshi, Ishwari lost her pedestal and fell from the respect that Dev had given her. She also fell in her own eyes during that event.

Here I would also like to mention GKB. On Friday's episode, when she is shown after Ishwari leaves, her left hand is shown in a fist. It is an indication that Ishwari is still in GKB's power and that she still pulls the strings. The other thing is GKB burning her own house. I feel it is an indication of what is to come. Even before burning her house, GKB tried other means to leave that house and come live in IN. It is similar to her efforts in breaking up Dev - Sonakshi's relationship with her instigation. But then as a permanent solution, she doused the house with kerosene and lit the fire leading to her house burning down. Now that Sona is kind of back that too with Suhana, she is definitely on the look out for a permanent solution. Here she is letting her greed consume her leading to her burning her own family. When she burned her house, she saved a few jewels from the fire. This time probably she will save Golu, mamaji and Elena while letting the fire consume Vickky who is her home(symbolically).

Just had these random thoughts. Not intended ted to hurt anyone.

Edited by Shaavi - 8 years ago

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Samanalyse

@Samanalyse

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Posted: 8 years ago

#200

Originally posted by: sia.krpkab

DQ, I think she hates her as a person. Anyone who doesn't worship her being a part of dixit/tripathi family, licks her boots or thinks logically confronting her pedestal, she feels insecure and starts developing a strong dislike and eventually hatred towards that person. That's why she wasn't even remotely impacted by the presence of natasha earlier.
Ishwari doesn't want anyone to be the centre of gravity in that household and their lives, other than herself. She is still being manipulative when she throws a fit that Sona left you and all. Because had it been an honest person, she shouldn't have used 'Sona never came back to see you' thing with Dev, asking her to move on.
She has always been jealous of Sona's goodness, her pride which defies odds and insecure of dev-Sona's love and her support system in Boses. This all turned into hatred overtime and finally she manipulated everyone to ensure that there relationship failed.

Hey, hope you don't mind if I butt in 😃

@bold: Sia, she was very much affected by Natasha's potential entry into Dixit house. Remember that scene where Mami and Nikki are discussing how Dev's room will change once Natasha moves in? Her expressions clearly illustrated that this concept made her very uncomfortable, and I strongly believe that once Natasha entered the house, her insecurity would have set in all the same, though perhaps more gradually. At some point, Dev would have screwed up (being human and all), and Ishwari would have found excuses to blame Natasha.

And this is what I think DQ is trying to say: a lot of Ishwari's so-called "hate" comes from her desperation not to introspect and not turn the spotlight on herself. She would rather blame anyone else when Dev behaves in a less than ideal manner, and because Sona was the person who occupied the role of "Dev's wife" she used her as a scapegoat -- first, as the person who "made" Dev lie and hide things from her, and then as the person who abandoned Dev and left him heartbroken. Her fatal flaw is that she refuses to see her role in both of these behaviours/incidents.

I think that is why they established so firmly that Ishwari actually adored Sona as an individual, right up until the moment she became woman she would have to share Dev with. And unlike in the Natasha's case, she had nothing like the business deal even remotely holding her back from this antagonistic feeling. Ishwari's fear and insecurity has a life of its own and I think the CVs have illustrated really well how it possesses her ability to think rationally/like a mature adult, despite being one.

Like we have discussed before, Dev and Sona, with their respective parents, have to take on the role of parents and discipline, care for, and love them, instead of expecting their parents to take care of them as they did the first time around.