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Posted: 8 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: jigsaw1234

Sweet Jesus! I was beginning to doubt myself reading this forum. Finally, there is someone who thinks rationally. Couldn't agree more that children need stability and not a crowd to bring them up.
Thank you!

Exactly I also couldn't understand why TV always portray that a woman need a man in real life it is not so especially if you have supportive parents and siblings
I am also a single mother of 3 children but never felt anything void off or my children also never feel they want to know about their father or they need him
In real life it is very different in most of the family even after having both parents children are close only to one like I was with my mother role of father that time only looked to me just he used to earn money come home and eat and sleep
In society in real world even if a women ask another that how you leave with out your husband or many such type of question and they doesn't believe that I am happy even the neighbours are surprised always with me that how I manage 3 children so easily
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Posted: 8 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: satisfied_AR

i dont get it why sona blames dev and ishwari that they did not meet sona when she brought her daughter to dixits.

She came back just because of her daughter otherwise she would not have come to meet dev. Same goes for dev and ishwari they did not want to meet sona but becausse of suhana they would have if sona had told them about her suhana too.

Feel bad for dev. He is alone all these years, sona had everyone specially suhana. Dev would be a lot happier if he has no one but suhana alone.




Excuse me what?? Sona was thrown out of the house. why on earth she would go there again?? Dev told her she is useless as she couldnt even conceive and she cannot be a good mother thats why she cant have kids. Thats way too disgusting. Ishwari? Please lets not even get into that.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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It's funny to read that a 30 year old grown a$$ man's mother is comparable to a 6 year old's mother 😆😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: tejaswiniwenham


oh dear god! ty! this haq jaap drives me insane. id written a post about the legal side of things before but peeps pls read it before legitimizing dev d's bs legal haq jaaps and ishwaris stupid threats of suhana dixit. for convenience im pasting it here. it simply adds to the aforementioned post.

lol when people talk about hard custody battles between sona and dev i feel like laughing SO hard. firstly, although indian law states that child born after divorce within 280 days of divorce are considered legitimate, there is still MUCH ambiguity with the different religious family court laws in the country. basically a child born post divorce could still be considered out of wedlock and the father in that case stands zero grounds for full time custody unless the mother decides to name him as the child's legal guardian and then abandons the child. in fact sona was also under 0 legal obligation to inform him of a child post divorce as she was a single mother and financially capable of raising her child in a stable home.

even in the case that the child is considered "legitimate", a father would pretty much never get custody in accordance to the hindu family act if the child is female. fathers would not even be able to claim custody before kid is five and he would need to prove that living with him would significantly improve the child's well-being financially...which it wont. he cannot claim custody just on the basis of not having character defect and love for his child. especially if the child has been raised in a financially sound happy and safe environment then his case may not even be entertained in court and sonakshi could ask for a dismissal following the child's counseling which would determine if she was happy or not. court does NOT care if sona had or had not informed dev about the birth of a child after divorce.

basically dev stands zero grounds in terms of custody and it is actually FAVORABLE that sona never remarried in terms of custody. its sexist but apparently it shows commitment. in terms of providing a stable home- dev has been busy developing a careful bad boy image with an affinity for changing sexual partners and drinking over the six years whilst sona has built up a very successful start up. who do you think gets custody if this was even a contestable case? FYI- i am a licensed lawyer in 3 countries including India.

so yes, tv show custody cases are stupid. short of really bribing the judicial system and i mean severe blatant bribing that would make the judge not even try to seem fair and disregard every evidence, which is again much harder to do in family court cases where both parents are rich than in criminal court, dev will not be winning any custody. so yes, whilst im glad he isnt plowing his way forcibly into soha's life, he also just has 0 other options considering the fact that krpkab is a marginally more realistic show than most on tv.

so given the situation, i do think sona is legitimately much more concerned with dev forcing himself onto soha's life and ruining the stability. as a mother i believe its good to have both parents' love for a child but stability is much more important and with dev constantly behaving erratically at the behest of his mother's whims and the family's bipolar treatment of the child's mother, post divorce it wouldve been impossible to maintain civility and stability in the child's life. maintaining stability also means that u dont just interrupt a child's routine to push her into a relationship she doesnt quite understand, just cos dev wants it. he needs to grow the hell up and think soha before his petty haq and silly competition with sona. if he cant even bow down to sona for soha then he cant do much for her at all can he. his ego is even bigger than soha. log apne baccho k liye jaan de dete hain, hes not even prepared to give sona due courteous respect for soha's sake. nor her nana nani. so dev is hardly a good parent for a stable life.

i grew up with my mother from the age of 5 and my brother from -6 months old cos our parents divorced and we only saw our dad once in a year during summers. we grew up to b 'normal' highly functional adults. i HATE it whenever someone talks about the importance of having both parents' involvement for normal growth. both parents is wonderful but one responsible and loving parent is all you actually need for 'normalcy'.

sona's concerns are all pretty freakin legitimate. we can all argue that oh ishwari did this and that but dev still chooses to live with her and in making said choice he endangers soha's stability. moreso, living with dangerous criminals such as vicky, he endangers her life. he seems to know about vicky's illegalities and fraud and still ignores it.

sona's decisions make A1 sense to me as a mother. and now that soha is past 5, she (as the court would) decides what will happen. she has full freedom to and she did. she doesnt want to establish papa before trust. thats normal. not something sona put in her head. soha actually did not wanna meet her dad cos she is just fine and happy in her life and didnt wanna take the off chance that her dad disappoints. thats not hard to understand. we are all afraid of the unknown. and believe it or not most of us single parent children are tots fine with it. tv media should stop showing bullshit about how we are emotionally problematic. its society who is more bothered by our "plight". we are not.

id read the forum's outrage on her allowing a small kid to take her own decision and emotionally pressure her to not wanna meet dev and all...well that just a) legally speaking a normal procedure. stability is important well into the teen years but our judicial system recognizes children post 5 to be able to understand their own happiness and stability. post 9 the courtroom decision is majorly based on what the child wants irregardless of other factors. and b) sona in no way ever pressurized soha not to meet her dad in anyway that the court would understand as 'influencing'. she did not malign dev at all.



This was so informative 😊 specially coming from someone who has studied law. It's highly annoying to hear "hamara haq" jaap by Dev and Ishwari and their constant attempts to barge into Suhana's life when they can clearly see that the girl is not comfortable. I know that the makers give two hoots about researching actual laws and legal procedures. They have no time.. they are busy making hero do criminal stuff under sweet name of fatherly love 🤪
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Posted: 8 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: satisfied_AR

i dont get it why sona blames dev and ishwari that they did not meet sona when she brought her daughter to dixits.

She came back just because of her daughter otherwise she would not have come to meet dev. Same goes for dev and ishwari they did not want to meet sona but becausse of suhana they would have if sona had told them about her suhana too.

Feel bad for dev. He is alone all these years, sona had everyone specially suhana. Dev would be a lot happier if he has no one but suhana alone.





Completely agree..is Dev supposed to get a dream that he has a daughter and has to call up Sonakshi..Both had given up on their relationship but She came for the sake of the baby..so the baby gets fathers love..now how is Dev supposed to know about the baby..he even said if he knew about the baby he would forget everything and be with them..because if not for them atleast for the baby...both are thinking in the same way but people always see what they want to see..Sad🥱
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Posted: 8 years ago
#36
I won't deny the fact that Bijoy is irritating at times but not as irritating as Ishwari or Maami or Dev. He never emotionally blackmailed Sonakshi like Ishwari did , he never forced Sonakshi in taking any decision . He is just a straight forward man without any cunningness , he openly express his opinion without twisting the words , Yes he is temperamental but not shrewd.
Sonakshi didn't restrict Dev or Ishwari from meeting Soha. But the time they choose to meet Soha is weird , Sonakahi was not lying when she said Soha is sleeping , she was not lying when she said Soha have activity class at 2.00 pm, I do understand that Dev and his Maa has right to meet and be with Soha , but it shouldn't affect the normalcy of the little girl .
Edited by Kamala05 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: Calvin341



Completely agree..is Dev supposed to get a dream that he has a daughter and has to call up Sonakshi..Both had given up on their relationship but She came for the sake of the baby..so the baby gets fathers love..now how is Dev supposed to know about the baby..he even said if he knew about the baby he would forget everything and be with them..because if not for them atleast for the baby...both are thinking in the same way but people always see what they want to see..Sad🥱


Usually I dont engage in squabbles in IF. i have learnt better but I couldnt help it.
No he wasnt supposed to dream that a child was born but sona was supposed to dream that not dev but ish turned her away? no he isnt supposed to call her up. that was a child's mind saying that. to her it shows that he didnt care about her mother, not her but her mother, enough to call her once in 7 years. again someone who doesnt care enough about her mother, how can he care for her? thats a logical conclusion. no matter how good a father is as a father. resentment always exists if he cant respect the mother of his children. im speaking from first hand experience. if people think that sonakshi and soha owe dev a position in their lives kindly outline why he shouldve been granted that role. but sona is still trying to give him a role in soha's life. thats how they are different. sona had no reason to call dev. ive highlighted previously- legally 0 obligations post divorce to inform of a child.

and ok he didnt know about soha but he knew sona right? sona has ran to dev's aid everytime hes been in trouble- without any incentive to do so. but dev didnt even extend her the same courtesy. thats the second difference between the two. she couldve simply been in trouble and came to his door. the expectation was that he would hear her out regardless of soha. even if soha wasnt involved, a grown 21+ (idk wth his age is) year old man must have enough sense that if sona is at his door then it must be something important. most people would give the 'love of his life' the benefit of the doubt and still meet her. dev didnt. its sad that its cos of misunderstandings by ishwari but thats again dev's problem to deal with. and honestly, he forgave her for that in half a nano second so clearly he doesnt think she did anything wrong and hes still disrespectful to the mother of his child, who so far has only bridged the relationship between him and his kid (i wouldve sought out legal counsel to ensure he cant make any court appeals for custody and told him to f off) so im concluding from logical reasoning that he would have done the same. so its not crazy that sona came to the same conclusion- a watchman saw her standing with a child, called the house and said dev sir has asked her to f-off. why the hell would she call him again?

she went to tell him cos this is hardly something you drop mic on the phone. then she got humiliated beyond. why on EARTH would anyone with a cm of self-respect call again? and what exactly does dev need to 'forget' to be with sona? how she slapped and humiliated his mother? how she humiliated him? how she was a gold digger? nope none of that happened. but it did happen with sona and she still found it in her to allow him some happiness in the form of seeing soha. that is the difference between them- the ability to forget and move on like an adult without having any reason to, dev needs a reason to even entertain sona despite her never having done anything to belittle him. and what an assumption that sona would just jump on his lap once he found out about soha. just as impractical and crazy as the expectation that soha will jump into papa's lap and pull his cheeks and give him kissies. sona tried na? told soha- im telling you this is your papa. soha's answer was clear. i dont know him, yes hes my FATHER but not my PAPA. but ofcourse dev's happiness and relationship with his daughter is also sona's thekedari.
Edited by tejaswiniwenham - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Which normal mother on this earth would wish to handle her kid to mentally challanged people? Sona is anything but insecure. Mother-son getting on her nerves, still she's calm and cool. Soha would not even look at DevIsh is sona refuses her to go there, sad part is sona herself encouraging her daughter to go close to them.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: purva

It's funny to read that a 30 year old grown a$$ man's mother is comparable to a 6 year old's mother 😆😆


Mother is mother only dear either of 6 year old or 30 year old.
If we grown up to 30 it does not mean that you are equal to your mother
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Some amazing posts around here ! Tejas leading like a boss 🥳 .


About comparing Sona to Ishwari - well that means Dev is Suhana. Before I go to any logical argument, I have a huge important question - So who changes Dev's diaper yet ?

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