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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: dipali13

So u mean it's only sona's duty to inform him & dev- ish only have huq? For u all responsibility goes to sona & all rights to dev? R v in 21 century? Soha a 6 years old ask right questions why you didn't call once? Answer is I am so busy in different hotels rooms and that's why I don't have time to call ur mom but it's her duty to inform me, and if she informed me then me & my mother definitely snack you because it's our rights 😳 seriously? Really? You amused me.


So husbands have to call wives after to divorse to enquire if they got pregnant by any chance? 😆😆

Why should he have called her? She should have been the one calling him to inform him.
Edited by crazyaboutmanan - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@ tejaswiniwenham. Thank you for this post n analysis...👏
I request you...to please post your this writing in various threads as it is informative...thanks once again.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Sweet Jesus! I was beginning to doubt myself reading this forum. Finally, there is someone who thinks rationally. Couldn't agree more that children need stability and not a crowd to bring them up.
Thank you!

Originally posted by: tejaswiniwenham


oh dear god! ty! this haq jaap drives me insane. id written a post about the legal side of things before but peeps pls read it before legitimizing dev d's bs legal haq jaaps and ishwaris stupid threats of suhana dixit. for convenience im pasting it here. it simply adds to the aforementioned post.

lol when people talk about hard custody battles between sona and dev i feel like laughing SO hard. firstly, although indian law states that child born after divorce within 280 days of divorce are considered legitimate, there is still MUCH ambiguity with the different religious family court laws in the country. basically a child born post divorce could still be considered out of wedlock and the father in that case stands zero grounds for full time custody unless the mother decides to name him as the child's legal guardian and then abandons the child. in fact sona was also under 0 legal obligation to inform him of a child post divorce as she was a single mother and financially capable of raising her child in a stable home.

even in the case that the child is considered "legitimate", a father would pretty much never get custody in accordance to the hindu family act if the child is female. fathers would not even be able to claim custody before kid is five and he would need to prove that living with him would significantly improve the child's well-being financially...which it wont. he cannot claim custody just on the basis of not having character defect and love for his child. especially if the child has been raised in a financially sound happy and safe environment then his case may not even be entertained in court and sonakshi could ask for a dismissal following the child's counseling which would determine if she was happy or not. court does NOT care if sona had or had not informed dev about the birth of a child after divorce.

basically dev stands zero grounds in terms of custody and it is actually FAVORABLE that sona never remarried in terms of custody. its sexist but apparently it shows commitment. in terms of providing a stable home- dev has been busy developing a careful bad boy image with an affinity for changing sexual partners and drinking over the six years whilst sona has built up a very successful start up. who do you think gets custody if this was even a contestable case? FYI- i am a licensed lawyer in 3 countries including India.

so yes, tv show custody cases are stupid. short of really bribing the judicial system and i mean severe blatant bribing that would make the judge not even try to seem fair and disregard every evidence, which is again much harder to do in family court cases where both parents are rich than in criminal court, dev will not be winning any custody. so yes, whilst im glad he isnt plowing his way forcibly into soha's life, he also just has 0 other options considering the fact that krpkab is a marginally more realistic show than most on tv.

so given the situation, i do think sona is legitimately much more concerned with dev forcing himself onto soha's life and ruining the stability. as a mother i believe its good to have both parents' love for a child but stability is much more important and with dev constantly behaving erratically at the behest of his mother's whims and the family's bipolar treatment of the child's mother, post divorce it wouldve been impossible to maintain civility and stability in the child's life. maintaining stability also means that u dont just interrupt a child's routine to push her into a relationship she doesnt quite understand, just cos dev wants it. he needs to grow the hell up and think soha before his petty haq and silly competition with sona. if he cant even bow down to sona for soha then he cant do much for her at all can he. his ego is even bigger than soha. log apne baccho k liye jaan de dete hain, hes not even prepared to give sona due courteous respect for soha's sake. nor her nana nani. so dev is hardly a good parent for a stable life.

i grew up with my mother from the age of 5 and my brother from -6 months old cos our parents divorced and we only saw our dad once in a year during summers. we grew up to b 'normal' highly functional adults. i HATE it whenever someone talks about the importance of having both parents' involvement for normal growth. both parents is wonderful but one responsible and loving parent is all you actually need for 'normalcy'.

sona's concerns are all pretty freakin legitimate. we can all argue that oh ishwari did this and that but dev still chooses to live with her and in making said choice he endangers soha's stability. moreso, living with dangerous criminals such as vicky, he endangers her life. he seems to know about vicky's illegalities and fraud and still ignores it.

sona's decisions make A1 sense to me as a mother. and now that soha is past 5, she (as the court would) decides what will happen. she has full freedom to and she did. she doesnt want to establish papa before trust. thats normal. not something sona put in her head. soha actually did not wanna meet her dad cos she is just fine and happy in her life and didnt wanna take the off chance that her dad disappoints. thats not hard to understand. we are all afraid of the unknown. and believe it or not most of us single parent children are tots fine with it. tv media should stop showing bullshit about how we are emotionally problematic. its society who is more bothered by our "plight". we are not.

id read the forum's outrage on her allowing a small kid to take her own decision and emotionally pressure her to not wanna meet dev and all...well that just a) legally speaking a normal procedure. stability is important well into the teen years but our judicial system recognizes children post 5 to be able to understand their own happiness and stability. post 9 the courtroom decision is majorly based on what the child wants irregardless of other factors. and b) sona in no way ever pressurized soha not to meet her dad in anyway that the court would understand as 'influencing'. she did not malign dev at all.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: crazyaboutmanan


So husbands have to call wives after to divorse to enquire if they got pregnant by any chance? 😆😆

Why should he have called her? She should have been the one calling him to inform him.



Of course! You want a chance, you take it. Don't point a finger at others. That is lame!

If you don't fight for what you want, don't cry for what you lost!




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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: crazyaboutmanan



So husbands have to call wives after to divorse to enquire if they got pregnant by any chance?😆😆

Why should he have called her? She should have been the one calling him to inform him.


then why sona call him ? They are separated & they call her gold digger 😡 why on earth she call to hear same thing 😕
Edited by dipali13 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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People remember pre nup Dev or his family has no right or responsibility towards Soha legally . Ishwari wants to turn Soha into like her kid weak unable to decide. There should be a restraining order against her.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: rockstar.sj

Soha asked dev perfect question were the hell was dev when sona was raising her daughter alone .
Bijoy was hyper but always a great father who always protective towards sona and now soha .
Tm ur might find faults in sona because u r team dev and ishwari.
Were was this concern when dev and ishwari threw sona just like that were was this concern when dev taunted straight on sona face that she can't be a mother .
How so convenient to be biased on dev and ishwari.

Did sona stop soha to meet dev answer is no
Then why u are irrated by sona because she refused to send soha with the stranger dev just because ishwari wanted to meet soha he came as a thief and wanted to take soha without even asking .
U ppl amaze me dev does so much u can't count that but sona takes a stand u guys ready to blast her .

Don't forget dev left sona not her and now why she will send her daughter with her ex why??
After hearing dhamki from great psycho mataji ishwari that she will snatch soha from her which mother will send her daughter without assurance .

Oh come if sona was insecured like ishwari she would have eloped the day dev yelled at her hiding soha from him since 6 yrs .
Sona is strong lady unlike timvid dev who is spineless who doesn't warn his mom not to interfere and forgives her just like that .
We disagree to u tm

Sona is doing just like any mother would do ur fav dev and ishwari are kids who wants a toy and soha is not a toy and sona is mother and soha is delicate to handle this sticky situation so sona is on action



Dev in fact is irritating us he is un real after knowing that ishwari was the one who ruined those 7 yrs yet he is unaffected so normal as if nothing went wrong come on no one can ever dumb like that


Amazing !!
He forgave mom
He left her
He slapped bose papa
Didn't trace Soha
He manhandles her
He forces himself on Soha
He sneaked into her room


While,
He still cares for sona
Calls asha aap with respect
Doesn't stop Soha from calling him Mr.dixit
Didn't answer back ish wen she called him selfish
Didn't snap Sona wen she said Mumma s boy
Didn't show arrogance to bijoy wen he called him bhanja
Didn't throw gkb crew out f dixit Manson

It's easy to call him spineless, be in his position once..He needs love to b strong n life. He takes business decisions easily with full spine as it doesn't hurt anyone..He s scared f losing ..Despite his measures he lost..Still he tries to get up Everytime..It s difficult

His childhood was difficult. His family was dysfunctional. D only day f hope was Sona.she made him see things with a different perspective. But wen she couldn't face her health issues she became more defensive.and slap gate 5 crores.. it was impulsive f both . If he s behaving rough with her, she too s instigating him by pricking on his weakness..So blaming dev s immature..
No one supports dev wen he says disrespectful words for Sona, but yesterday he was wright
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: flat_everest



It's easy to call him spineless, be in his position once..He needs love to b strong n life. He takes business decisions easily with full spine as it doesn't hurt anyone..He s scared f losing ..Despite his measures he lost..Still he tries to get up Everytime..It s difficult

His childhood was difficult. His family was dysfunctional. D only day f hope was Sona.she made him see things with a different perspective. But wen she couldn't face her health issues she became more defensive.and slap gate 5 crores.. it was impulsive f both . If he s behaving rough with her, she too s instigating him by pricking on his weakness..So blaming dev s immature..
No one supports dev wen he says disrespectful words for Sona, but yesterday he was wright



How long he'll hide in his mothers pallu in the garb of difficult childhood and remain spineless and selfish. Dev 2.0 having little different relation initially with Ish is no redemption.

Comparing 6 yr kid with a grownup 30yr plus successful business tycoon is being naive.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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i dont get it why sona blames dev and ishwari that they did not meet sona when she brought her daughter to dixits.
She came back just because of her daughter otherwise she would not have come to meet dev. Same goes for dev and ishwari they did not want to meet sona but becausse of suhana they would have if sona had told them about her suhana too.

Feel bad for dev. He is alone all these years, sona had everyone specially suhana. Dev would be a lot happier if he has no one but suhana alone.



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Posted: 8 years ago
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Whenever I see support for dev and ishwari, I only comprehend it this way - in India unless a girl isn't physically abused, nobody thinks anything is wrong. It's like they are saying there are so many guys who beat their wives, so many MILs who burn their DILs. So, compared to them, you are in heaven, so adjust."
In India, though we might have improved a lot in technology, in terms of medical science related to mental illnesses and disorders, I feel we actually lack awareness or I must say avoid recognizing it. The two characters, dev-ishwari, actually are suffering from mental illnesses in reality. Obsession, manipulation, stalking, all of them are actually signs of mental illness. Unfortunately, only Indian television associates it with a son-mother relationship and glorifies it.

@tejeswini - thank you for the wonderful post. I was all ready to make a big post regarding the legalities, but you spared me the trouble. Being the child of a single mother, I'm aware of the complications and rights of a single mother very well.

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