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Sajini Cherian

@sajinifaby

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+ 5

Posted: 8 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: sproutbean8
Also, and this is only my opinion I dont believe what Sona is doing represents girl power or feminism, she is being dramatic for drama. Girl power and feminism does not mean stooping to the other persons level it means rising above and proving your worth through your actions and accomplishments.[/DIV]
Edited: I felt that the writers had a plot twist but seem to be taking too long to introduce it

I so agree with this!!
Unwanted tashan stretched too far in front of employees.. and no page3 buzz on them.. strange!! 😆

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gemini54

@gemini54

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

#12

Dear Mr Das these are some great questions you are asking and I am going to try and answer it as best as I can

The makers and producers of this show are not thinking with simple minds but with Business like minds and you and I both know that in Business it is all about what sells.

The makers of this show had an initial version of a product that lured a certain audience in. The leads of this show look phenomenal together but their initial story started stagnating or so they thought. So, they decided to give it a face lift and took a leap of faith ( pun intended ) and introduced season 2

Were Dev ACTS and looks DIFFERENT, dresses more like he is a teenager. I am ok with ripped jeans for parties but ripped jeans to work even if he was the CEO that is a no no, Mark Zukenberg does not dress in suits but I dont think he dressed in ripped jeans atleast I dont think so. As a CEO you know more than anyone else we need to instill confidence in your people and him drinking at work as far as I know that is a strict no no. Him harassing Sona yes that is harassing is not proper Business ethics either.

Sona Bose looks ravishing now - but what is with her attitude just because you are strong does not mean you have to put the other person down. There has to be grace in strength where is it here? She knows Dev more than anyone and what is with her making a mountain of molehill of the paper article especially after they had a beautiful day the previous day where they were just themselves. The Sona we knew would never hide a child for god sakes she couldn't even lie properly. Ar the start of this season she wanted to tell Dev about Soha now is afraid he will snatch her..why is that because of the new Dev who just is creating drama and why is he no body knows

It almost seems like the makers thought these two look so good together, they light up the screen when they come together how can we take advantage of it. Ah we got it let us have a role reversal for Sona where we change her to portray strong woman and what do strong woman do..get in other peoples faces. What does she really want nobody can tell atleast I cant? Then they thought let us transform Dev and what do we get a confused guy, what does this Dev want?. what is he now ? nobody knows atleast not I? AND create Drama because Drama sells😆

Now the million dollar question do they really want to get back together? If they are why is Dev riling her up and Sona still hiding their daughter?

Oh I get it it has just been 5 days since season 2 so let us stretch the five days to 10 weeks how can we do that bring in a character so Jatin enters.

The way I see it this is purely a business move of refurbishing an existent thing and make maximum use of the beautiful leads chemistry and as an audience two things are still holding some of us together..make it three. The leads look good, curiosity factor whether they will get back TOGETHER and the forum ( at least for me)😆

Now the question remains whether this start up of the makers will give them revenues or go bust only time will tell😉

Sorry for the rant by a fellow simple minded person

Edited by gemini54 - 8 years ago

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randommusings

@randommusings

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Posted: 8 years ago

#13

Haha...u missed the whole point actually of my post. Main topic mentions that show has become one sided and pro Sona post leap whereas I see it more pro Dev now. I am just highlighting the fact that where there are half fans hating Dev ...there is an equal or maybe even bigger audience who bash Sona and blame only her for separation and leaving Dev all alone. I am just listing their arguements against Sona, this is not my POV. I can understand Sona's pov more as compared to Dev's pov.

Instead of the fans rooting for Devakshi...negativity and drama has resulted in fans to pick their favourites and makers r doing this for more viewership n stretching the show.

Originally posted by: anyafan4
Hi Random Musings --- I am not in one camp or another, but I found some of your points somewhat off the mark. Each of us is entitled to our views, ofcourse. But Your may points left me wondering so I am taking ht liberty to provide a counterpoint.

Edited by randommusings - 8 years ago

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mayu1982

@mayu1982

Sparkler

+ 5

Posted: 8 years ago

#14

Dear @ TM :

Proudly disagree with you .

Dev Dixit and Sonakshi Bose - for me is realistic characters. Characters with faults. and l loved those characters.

I repeat I love both characters. I don't belong to any camp like you all guys- Team Sona or Team Dev.

I like Kuch rang pyar ke aise bhi because characters are like me. I am not prefect person. I am person with a lots of faults. May be you guys are so prefect almost like God or goddess. But I am human😕 and so i liked human characters 😳

Saying the above line I would also like to clarify that neither I am person who will look for my life inside characters as well. These serial and characters are made for enjoyments. I watch, enjoy and I forget is my principle.

Points you have mentioned is so shocking 😲 for me that I don't want to give any explanation considering you and me are standing at opposite ends.

Failure of marriage of Devakshi - Both Dev and sonakshi are responsible. ALso Ishwari and Bose papa are equally responsible for creating the mess in their life. Ishwari never accepted Sonakshi as her bahu and Bose never accepted Dev as son in law.

How their life changed after breakup? What happens after their divorce? How destiny plays its role ?Their journey is still incomplete.

One thing is very much clear after reading your post - You don't like this serial and as per your analysis nothing is left in the serial and it should end.

But for me

Famous SRK LINE - is baat ka bhi yakeen ho gaya, ki humari filmon ki tarah humari zindagi mein bhi end mein sab theek ho jaata hai.
Happys Endings. Aur agar, aur agar theek na ho to woh the end nahin hai dosto, picture abhi baaki hai.

So am positive person unlike feminist groups and wants to see positive end of this serial. For me picture abhi baaki hai.

Also like to mention- Only forumwaais is criticising this leap. I can give you 10000000000000000000000 shots of twitter where people are requesting everyone not to go to forum . Forum is full of negative people and their so called intelligent analysis of pov post.

Now am proudly agreeing with twitterwaais .Indeed forum is full of negative post( except- Sam analysis and Jyoti, Soni, Survi, Fero, Monal, Abi, Mishti, Krystle, few more.)

P.S No intention to disrepect anyone's feeling .😊 I am too stress out reading over negative post. Enough of it for my little tiny miny brain cells😳

Edited by mayu1982 - 8 years ago

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Zeddriz7

@Zeddriz7

Navigator

Posted: 8 years ago

#15

Originally posted by: gemini54
Dear Mr Das these are some great questions you are asking and I am going to try and answer it as best as I can
The makers and producers of this show are not thinking with simple minds but with Business like minds and you and I both know that in Business it is all about what sells.

The makers of this show had an initial version of a product that lured a certain audience in. The leads of this show look phenomenal together but their initial story started stagnating or so they thought. So, they decided to give it a face lift and took a leap of faith ( pun intended ) and introduced season 2

Were Dev ACTS and looks DIFFERENT, dresses more like he is a teenager. I am ok with ripped jeans for parties but ripped jeans to work even if he was the CEO that is a no no, Mark Zukenberg does not dress in suits but I dont think he dressed in ripped jeans atleast I dont think so. As a CEO you know more than anyone else we need to instill confidence in your people and him drinking at work as far as I know that is a strict no no. Him harassing Sona yes that is harassing is not proper Business ethics either.

Sona Bose looks ravishing now - but what is with her attitude just because you are strong does not mean you have to put the other person down. There has to be grace in strength where is it here? She knows Dev more than anyone and what is with her making a mountain of molehill of the paper article especially after they had a beautiful day the previous day where they were just themselves. The Sona we knew would never hide a child for god sakes she couldn't even lie properly. Ar the start of this season she wanted to tell Dev about Soha now is afraid he will snatch her..why is that because of the new Dev who just is creating drama and why is he no body knows

It almost seems like the makers thought these two look so good together, they light up the screen when they come together how can we take advantage of it. Ah we got it let us have a role reversal for Sona where we change her to portray strong woman and what do strong woman do..get in other peoples faces. What does she really want nobody can tell atleast I cant? Then they thought let us transform Dev and what do we get a confused guy, what does this Dev want?. what is he now ? nobody knows atleast not I? AND create Drama because Drama sells😆

Now the million dollar question do they really want to get back together? If they are why is Dev riling her up and Sona still hiding their daughter?

Oh I get it it has just been 5 days since season 2 so let us stretch the five days to 10 weeks how can we do that bring in a character so Jatin enters.

The way I see it this is purely a business move of refurbishing an existent thing and make maximum use of the beautiful leads chemistry and as an audience two things are still holding some of us together..make it three. The leads look good, curiosity factor whether they will get back TOGETHER and the forum ( at least for me)😆

Now the question remains whether this start up of the makers will give them revenues or go bust only time will tell😉

Sorry for the rant by a fellow simple minded person

i do agree with you on the ''business mind'' thing. But it really confuses me.. The only thing that comes in mind of business is TRP... Trp fetches popularity, longer run time and probably is the main source for money.. But did the introduction of drama really help in increasing TRP ? It's still the same as it used to be.. As far as I know, it has probably touched 0.7 twice in the entire one year it has been running.. Trp's are just glued at 0.5 and rarely increase by 0.1...

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aarcha

@aarcha

Sparkler

Posted: 8 years ago

#16

Luvd to read everyone's views. I'm neither in team dev nor in team sona but i luv this show as a whole & the lead pairs.

Now tashan is goin on with our leads in the reloaded form & no one is wasting the opportuity to thrash the other. Since both r sharing the same building/ office space , their takkar is very much possible too. Dev was nt very regular @ office b4 but since sona came into picture, he was @ least regular , be it in his torn jeans & shabby look . But remember his look ,pre-leap. He was always in his 3 piece suit...indeed ishwari's raja beta .

All those unfortunate things hapnd jst b4 devakshi separation but dev thought sona will stay with him. He's emotionally very weak & he had admitted that to her as well. "Aap bahut strong ho lekin mein nahii ". Dev had no idea that vicky manipulated the circumstances & made dev a culprit in front of Bose family. All evidences 're against dev too.. & they got separated. Dev put blame on his maa first , then to sona as these 2 're the 2 imp persons in his life. Dev started living a life of his own, nt bothering bout others . He detached himself from his maa & thus broke the emotional bond he had with his maa even though he luv n respect his maa the same way but he didn acknowledge that in front of her. I didn like the way the writers r showing dev as a drunkard & a womaniser ( though nt much showed regarding this , only shruti incident ..but in that too i felt dev was jst showing that in front of sona to make her feel that he indeed living a carefree life )

Sona , post leap, became a successful business woman . She's strong always & blessed to hav a very supportive family . She's a proud mother too. Now she's bak in delhi from kolkata & in front of dev after 7 long yrs. But how much tashans they show in front of others, wen being themselves, they r still the ones who luvd each other immensely. But their luv lacked a strong foundation in the form of trust, support & understanding. Also dev was nt able to break that emotional bond with his mother which ishwari made with her insecurities n ehsan bhashans .

Had ishwari been a good selfless mother, the separation of devakshi or the unfortunate incidents that lead to separation wud nt hav hapnd. Even after these years,ishwari still blames that sona is the reason for everything but she didn realise that yet as it's she who paved the way of destruction in her beta's life.

So the makers trying to prove that dev is out of his mother's emotional cage & sona is succesful in her career n life . But both need an emotional outbreak so as to realise wat went wrong in their once beautiful luv story. Sona had gav the liberty of decision to soha ( but is she too young to handle ??! anyways, it"s a show , who cares!!) to choose if she wants to meet her dad or nt. But after seeing this version of dev, no mother will allow her daughter to meet him so soon. How can sona introduce soha to dev who's always with bottles , boast bout his gfs & flirts with even sona's female staffs. So it'll definitely need time. But i think dev will unknowingly meet soha thru golu & may befriend her. Now this jatin is brought to brush up the inner feelings of both sona n dev ,i guess, as so far i got + vibes from him but it"s too early to define his character .

But the makers very well knew the pulse of the viewers as they succeed in uniting the fandom with some beautiful episodes even amidst the dramas n tashans & i hpe , they'll show the same in future too. I jst want realisations from dev, sona, ishwari n bijoy & throwing out of gkb n gkbkb from their lives. The plus points in this show r the bubbly sweet kids , golu n soha . I really enjoyed watching these 2, esp the combo GoCha !

I'm nt an avid serial viewer but watches only this show & will continue to do so bcoz i'm curious as how this show'll progress . The makers hav the creative liberty to mould their show & i respect that. Let's wait n watch instead of doing unhealthy dissections n post mortems. 😃

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Pehchaan.Kaun

@Pehchaan.Kaun

Sparkler

Posted: 8 years ago

#17

Originally posted by: randommusings
I think CVs have done a pretty good job in creating rival camps Team Dev n Team Sona. N they are doing everything possible to hate one character in order to defend the other. It has become very difficult to become neutral these days with so much negativity in the show and in social media

You feel show has become one sided in favour of Sona but let me show you how the other side feels -

1. Sona has become arrongant and rude post leap. Her anger n mean words towards Dev has also been termed bitchy
2. She never really loved Dev n never understood his POV whereas Dev's love was selfless n unconditional
3. She complained abt being outsider in Dev's house but never confided anything abt Bose fam to Dev
4. Dev was so worried in S1 Sona's accident scene but Sona didn't even shed one tear for Dev post goons attack.She is that cold and indifferent now
5. Sona was the sole reason of separation. She left Dev even when he chose Sona over his family
6. Returning that 5cr was not bcoz of family's self respect but bcoz of her ego. She was wrong in returning that money
7. Dev was right to tell her Get out bcoz she held his collar infront of his family
8. She accused him of everything going wrong in their marriage
9. She didn't trust Dev n believed only Vicky
10. She hid Soha from Dev for her selfish reasons, to punish Dev
11. Sona should have realised that all those harsh words Dev said was bcoz he was angry n hurt..how can she believe those words
12. Sona's parenting has been questioned...she can't even see how much Soha miss her Dad.Soha is so boring n unhappy bcoz of Sona's parenting
13. Sona badmouths Dev infront of Soha
14. She neglects Soha and is only worried about her business n insulting Dev
15. Sona never stops Bijoy from badmouthing Dev
16. She was so desperate to become a good bahu that she never tried to become good wife n hence the separation
17. She acts just like Bijoy...hot headed irrational
18. She is just like Ishwari...insecure
19. Sona mocks abt Dev's business n achievements
20. She calls Dev mumma's boy n spineless
21. She shud be blamed for trying to help out Ish in kitchen or managing Dev's wardrobe - this resulted in Ish's insecurities
22. She put that ghastly jhula in room n didn't remove it even after Dev got hurt
23. She moved on...earlier also she was ready to get married to Rithwik n now happy with Jatin
24. Sona became successful only bcoz of Dev's harsh words motivated her

N the list continues...
So maybe Dev n Sona are actually on a level playing field n they truly deserve each other.

Mr. Das, I will reply to your much valid post in some time, but for now I just fell off my chair reading this. 🤣

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Deepa

@deepsel

Rocker

+ 3

Posted: 8 years ago

#18

On a lighter note, I guess the problem with the poor viewers is to keep up with the timelines and hence the uproar..earlier Sona was judged for being so meek and submissive on her early days of marriage when it was just 4 days in serial world while we were watching that for weeks. Now its 7 years in serial world but we are still stuck on that fatal night and its only weeks for us to accept the changes and hence judging every character for daring to move on.

This show is really challenging the sanity of audiences😆

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Pehchaan.Kaun

@Pehchaan.Kaun

Sparkler

Posted: 8 years ago

#19

Mr. Das - 👍🏼 Kudos for summing it up so well. 👏

I had this thought from the very episode where Dev demeans Sona's achievement mocking her start-up company status and the whole casanova and drunkard attitude. Forget about being a lover, he is not the type of guy I would even bother replying back if I meet on the street.

I would admit that I am still rooting for Dev and Sonakshi, because that is how I started watching this show and also because that is how they are going to end it, but this might be 1000th time me saying this, I cannot see Sona going back to him in any circumstances in near or even a bit far future. The guy has fallen SO deep that it's impossible to stand up from there. However, it's going to be some stupid crap tracks and dialogs which would make Sona forget everything and go back to him without batting an eyelash. May be some nonsense jealousy and childish arguments will do the tricks. But from realistic point of view, no one would reconcile with such loafer that Dev has become post-leap. Whatever minimum qualities he had pre-leap, he has lost all those. Like you said, I cannot see how he would make a 'return' from where he has gone. 🤔

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siddhi.d123

@siddhi.d123

Navigator

Posted: 8 years ago

#20

Sir even I m really curious to know how will Sona fall for Dev??
I cannot connect to the new Dev and Sona.This so called casonova Dev acts so cool in front of Sonakshi and gets jealous when a guy touches and stares at her as him his life depends on her and acts so childish.Though I like this strong Sona but I don't understand if she really doesn't want Soha to not meet Dev why to come back to Delhi and then share same office with him.I understand her fear but not her actions.

Ps:I think the makers just want us to get confused as Devakshi are also confused 😕 I still feel the leap was not at all necessary but we can't do anything.The makers are just cashing on their onscreen chemistry and alleged offscreen relationship 😆

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