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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jade0001

My Daadima was like Ishwari and maybe even worst in some instances , My Daadima hails from Pakistan has five sons four of them married Pakistani women while my dad married a Spanish woman
though my mum belongs to the same religion as my dad her culture and upbringing is very different this caused lots of problems for her then the fact that she was an independent woman as she had her law firm in Spain was totally a disadvantage to her . though my mother tried breaking the barriers at that time it just added to her misery . the only fact that kept my mother in her in laws house was that she had given birth twice to boys but by her third pregnancy my Daadima now demanded a girl child otherwise my mother had to leave and that's when my mom finally took a stand , took her two sons left my Daadima's house and Pakistan
today my Daadima leaves with us in our country if she has to visit Pakistan she is there for 3months at the most , today she respects my mom she has learned the very hard way but she dealt with insecurities her obsessed love and control for all her sons



Wow hats off to your mom..She has had an extremely tough and bumpy ride..These are the situations that get really tough to handle I guess,for both the hubby and the wife..The tightrope walk that the man has to walk and the unending stream of obstacles for the woman can make life a living hell for both.
Wonderful to see that your mother has overcome all this .👏👏👏

Thanx for sharing your experience ..😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: AngelsFlyAlone

What a fantastic post! Some really good anology here with snakes and ladders and such a parallel way if connecting with the story. I'm fourteen so marriage are not in the cards yet (and may never be because hell no I ain't ever getting married and I know every girl may say that but I'm bloody serious.)

However, if I was Sonakshi, by now I'd have stabbed my mother in law, rather my ex mil. Because the fact that you have to deem this as a normal lifestyle to even be remotely related or in contact with such a leech, I cannot imagine. I'm obviously joking about the stabbing but Jesus I'd be more than happy to divorce and escape a madhouse as the dixit home.


Thank you for your response dear.You are just fourteen,and to read and appreciate a post on post married life at this age requires maturity and understanding beyond your years.Wonderful to see this aspect of yours..👏

I know,at fourteen we are all very sure that we never want to get married...but then things change with time😉..well mostly...

But on a more personal note,I am not a a big believer in marriages either😳..I believe that strong women are better off by themselves.The waters of marriage often become murky with time,but by then it may be too late to come out of the pool...we just have to keep wading😆😆...Hope the forum doesn't sue me for poisoning young minds😆😆

Yes the dixit house was and is a mad house,but it was unfortunate that a genuine relationship between two people had to be sacrificed for others..It is the rare few who find a good hearted and well intentioned partner in life...and finding true love is the rarest of rare things...unfortunate that it fell apart
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Great post...👏
Well why go anywhere.. am dealing with one.. in my own home... "my MIL"

Its been 10 years.. but its just horrifying...
She has successfully destroyed all relations..
me n my husband.. although living under a roof.. and miles away from her..
I live in Kuwait, and earlier she was in jaipur, now in Kerala..

How i deal them.,.. STAY AWAY FROM THEM.. I do not visit them..or call them.. as they do not even acknowledge that I exist...

my husband also ignores most of it.. finding the easy way out.. trying to please everyone.. he has understood he has lost everything.. and me also...

What's worse.. is we do not have any children.. and ya.. like everyone does.. she believes his decision of marrying me is wrong.. n her choice was the best, which he did not listen to...
I destroyed their pure relation [just pure facade that was] and me calling the same.. mama's boy.. made it horrible for her ..and him.. and she thinks.. her insecurity and her husbands even more.. he do not even look at me.. that's even worse n more insulting...

The gap still grows.. and i did try to bridge it over these 10 years... but nothing can be done now i feel as the damage is too deep...and i have stopped trying.. like sona..

Only thing left is leaving him and going.. which i do not.. as he is as vulnerable as Dev..
in my case.. love is also not there..

I can totally relate to the tale... and i have expressed it many a times.. here thru my several posts..


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Posted: 8 years ago
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- in continuation to the above one :
I succeeded in totally changing my husband in his personality.. but this one thing.. is so deep rooted that its difficult to change i guess..
and my inlaws hate me for that.. they could not believe/accept a single change in him...😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: NBT-BV

I know at least 2 ladies like Ish with sons like Dev - not to that extent but sort of Mamas boys. In one case the DIL is just managing with difficulty and leaves the home quite often with her son to her parents home for 2-3 months then comes back for 1-2 months just to leave for another cycle. The grandson is the real sufferer.

In another case its at the brink of separation.

Sad to hear that both the marriages are on the verge of a separation.I guess such marriages are mostly doomed from the word go

Your 2nd question is totally hypothetical. The circumstances are not within the control of DIL bcoz the husband is the mamas buy. The balancing act has to be from the son who has to stop behaving a mamas boy.

Yes I agree..The main part to be played is by the son..but the wife might be able to play a role by subtly and softly explaining the circumstances to him and making him understand.This is probably the only way for a woman living in such a household.I am not saying that she will succeed in doing this...Most likely that she will fail.But it is the only possible way,if she has to continue to live there.And of course,not trying to please everyone helps

I know of two instances similar to Ish Dev..In one case,the girl convinced her hubby to take up an opportunity abroad and they moved away.They are happy now

In the second case to,the girl somehow moved away but the hubby continued remaining in the parents' clutches.It was like they would control the boy through a remote from another city...But patience and communication nailed it for her in the end...She slowly made her husband understand what his parents were doing to their marriage and now after almost 12 years,she has changed the face of things completely.Her husband stays away from his parents almost completely and trusts his wife.They are a team and one of the best ones that I have seen...And the girl turned it around completely.

I also know of a third instance...After 6 years of marriage and constant interference from the mil the girl left the house giving her husband an ultimatum.She said that he could come back to her if he could stand up for himself and make his own decisions.She said that she refused to be part of a joint family or have anything to do with her mil ever again.Initially her hubby let her go...But after 5 years of separation,he learnt his lesson the hard way.He came back to her and they r now happy together.Needless to say the mil is not allowed anywhere near their house😉😆

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sajinifaby

Great post...👏

Well why go anywhere.. am dealing with one.. in my own home... "my MIL"

Its been 10 years.. but its just horrifying...
She has successfully destroyed all relations..
me n my husband.. although living under a roof.. and miles away from her..
I live in Kuwait, and earlier she was in jaipur, now in Kerala..

How i deal them.,.. STAY AWAY FROM THEM.. I do not visit them..or call them.. as they do not even acknowledge that I exist...

my husband also ignores most of it.. finding the easy way out.. trying to please everyone.. he has understood he has lost everything.. and me also...

What's worse.. is we do not have any children.. and ya.. like everyone does.. she believes his decision of marrying me is wrong.. n her choice was the best, which he did not listen to...
I destroyed their pure relation [just pure facade that was] and me calling the same.. mama's boy.. made it horrible for her ..and him.. and she thinks.. her insecurity and her husbands even more.. he do not even look at me.. that's even worse n more insulting...

The gap still grows.. and i did try to bridge it over these 10 years... but nothing can be done now i feel as the damage is too deep...and i have stopped trying.. like sona..

Only thing left is leaving him and going.. which i do not.. as he is as vulnerable as Dev..
in my case.. love is also not there..

I can totally relate to the tale... and i have expressed it many a times.. here thru my several posts..



Thank you for sharing your experiences.Am really sorry to hear about the devastating role your mil has played in your life.Hats off to you for handling all this and still sticking it out👏👏👏..

I can understand how it is to stay in a marriage where there is hardly any rapport or love left.I am in a similar marriage and I know that there are days when it can be living hell.In my case,I would not blame my mil alone,though she played her part in me and my hubby growing apart.I agree with you.After a point even bridging the gap is impossible...The damage is too deep
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Loved you Snake and Ladder post

Regarding your questions I will answer it based on my life experience .

My MIL was NO Easwari- God Rest her Soul

But our marriage journey together started with a lot of opposition. My Husbands Family and Mine were family friends..Good Friends. When my husband and I decided to get married to each other..I am talking about 30 years ago. My MIL was appalled
  • None in my husbands family had a marriage that was not arranged by her

Though we started off on the wrong foot for no fault of mine we built a beautiful relationship one my husband even claims he was envious about

Marriage's are built with blood, sweat, tears and a lot of Love and support. My husband stood by me thru it all but never disrespected his mother..so he in essence was the tie that bound us together

In this story Dev 1.0 was not strong enough to that



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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: gemini54

Loved you Snake and Ladder post


Regarding your questions I will answer it based on my life experience .

My MIL was NO Easwari- God Rest her Soul

But our marriage journey together started with a lot of opposition. My Husbands Family and Mine were family friends..Good Friends. When my husband and I decided to get married to each other..I am talking about 30 years ago. My MIL was appalled
  • None in my husbands family had a marriage that was not arranged by her

Though we started off on the wrong foot for no fault of mine we built a beautiful relationship one my husband even claims he was envious about

Marriage's are built with blood, sweat, tears and a lot of Love and support. My husband stood by me thru it all but never disrespected his mother..so he in essence was the tie that bound us together

In this story Dev 1.0 was not strong enough to that




Sabita.. that's so sweet of your husband.. and the real fact is very few men are real strong..and ur husband is one...Thanks to God.. you have a happy n satisfying one... def.. not a cake walk... i agree!

Coming back to our story... u were right Dev 1.0 was not strong.. and trust me.. the main reason he fell in love with Sona1.0 was for that only... the strength and trust she offered him.. none cared.. and he knew that... he only wanted all of his happiness to stay together... responsibility respect and love...with a rapport...

A mistake can we say? i dont think so.. but some idealist say.. it should be given to those who deserve it only... well that is being ungrateful...but not sure.. what is right or wrong here...?
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sajinifaby

- in continuation to the above one :

I succeeded in totally changing my husband in his personality.. but this one thing.. is so deep rooted that its difficult to change i guess..
and my inlaws hate me for that.. they could not believe/accept a single change in him...😆


Oh God it is so terrible to hear it. though I faced it almost through my own sister... she face similar situations. but she decided to make modifications and took them all head on and though they still live in joint family, she has managed to make the atmosphere quite conducive. Which is why I so identify with Sona. She reminded me of the horrors of my sister...

I feel marriages should start on just respect. Everything else will follow. lucky are those who get both love and respect together.

Dev loved Sona but not enough to demand respect for her like he always did for his mother. I totally get why Sona would leave. I would have left long back .
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Excellent analogy. To answer your question, no. I have a mother-in-law who adores me and loves me like a daughter and I love her back. But then my husband is not Dev either. He won't let me insult his mother and he won't let his mother insult me. We are both equally important women in his life but in different way. Just like my mother and my husband are equally important in my life but in a different way.

If I had a mother-in-law like Ishwari, the first person I will check is how is the person whom I am marrying. If he dances to his mother's tunes, then I won't marry him. So the mother-in-law won't become a problem since she won't be MY mother-in-law.

If he is an independent adult who respects women and willing to stand up for whoever is right whether it's his mother or me (or never interfere between my mother-in-law and me means try to pick sides regardless how much or from whom complaints he gets), then the issue won't arise regardless of how bad the mother-in-law is.

Because when a man makes it clear that insulting his wife is insulting him, disrespectful behaviour to his wife is his disrespect and mistreating his wife is his mistreatment, then no family or mother-in-law will ever insult, disrespect or mistreat their daughter-in-law. So again a Ishwari like mother-in-law won't be a problem.

What I would never do is marry a man who thinks his family has full rights to mistreat his wife. So the first person I will dump, is him. He doesn't respect me means he doesn't respect our relationship. Period.


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