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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: tia.o

Yep. That smirk was a clear giveaway. Otherwise, he has no need to go to a business award function since he did not attend for 7 years and he is also closing his business. And talking about blaming Sonakshi, that's what Dixit family have been doing ever since Sonakshi started working there even before she fell in love with Dev. So nothing new there. But this time they will meet a different Sonakshi who can wipe the floor with them.


Exactly! He didnt go for 7 years and why go now? So he is clearly upto something. And I also believe that instead of wanting to give Sona that shock, he would himself end up getting the shock of his life if Sona would introduce Soha on stage or atleast call her on the stage and dedicate the award to her coz after all Soha is her biggest achievement of her life. So whatever it is, jhatka toh dixits ko hi lagna hai. And I think it will be really dramatic if dixits are shown watching the coverage in their house and knowing Soha's truth😆

And yes, there is nothing Dixits can do other than play the blame game or act as a victims. And I would definitely want Sona to give them back and this with style. I really do want Sona to shove it on Ish's face on how she never did and she never will tie Soha in the boundaries of her past and will let her do whatever she wants to do. I dont know if Ish's feels guilty or still blames Sona for whatever happened. I know Dev did blame Ish but whether she has accepted her fault or is playing the victim game again is what I want to see
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: tia.o




- TV serial leads can do anything. They can also produce babies without any treatment only with 7% chance as well as carry the baby successfully to term. Also, male leads can run a profitable company while plotting to hide his wife's pregnancy truth from his wife, and entire family while tackling evil guy (Ayan) and bribing doctors.

Tv MLs are asses and Dev was a dick but why I pinpoint at Sonakshi more and especially her profession because to me that was one element that at this point would have been her own. A trait from her past. She could have been running a successful practice..a career made of her own character sketch. It does a lot of dis-service to a FL's writing if her new found progression is an extrapolation of ML.
But then i am expecting too much, they did reduce her to daily meal planning thing pretty early in the show.




- I agree with you. Sonakshi should have never gone back. However, as I mentioned that there were two things that was the reason of her keeping the child away.

1. Dev relinquished all rights to their children and children's rights to him at the event of divorce as per pre-nup. It was a legal document prepared by lawyer, signed by Dev. Sonakshi doesn't know about how it came through.
Indian law doesn't recognize pre-nups. They are null and void. Divorce laws, especially custody ones favour the mother mostly. It's a fictional show, it's a lazyass excuse if we need legal technicalities to cover something.


2. As a daughter whose parents' property was mortgages to the neck and knowing her husband's tendency to hit on the opponent's livelihood (also the fact that she thought that Dev threw them out of their home), she had reason to believe that Dev will snatch her baby and destroy her parents' life using his money and power which he is capable of based on his past behaviour. Her parents needed her protection at that time, more than the man who has broken her heart and threw her love and sacrifice on her face.
So what changes now? That fear should be present forever that someday Dev will snatch her baby, irrespective of the power angles.I am sure she would be aware of Dev's anger too, if he now realizes that she hid the child from him. Legally, if he tries to pursue, he can now have the upper hand where the Courts will see that irrespective of solid ground Sonakshi Bose , hid the child from the father and denied the rights. Your point about protection would have been valid at that moment but it's been years now..she is supposedly a successful person..which means even couple of years or an year back , storyline, she would have been able to "protect" her family and fight Dev for a custody? So why hide?
If Sona is okay for her baby to choose her dad at this point then I wanna know how is it independent of the fear she had about Dev snatching the baby.

That's why people say that your behaviour determines your trustworthiness and character. Dev would never believe that Sonakshi can bring someone to street, but Sonakshi herself went through that and so did Ranveer. And Dev was unapologetic then which makes one think that this is not at all a difficult thing to do for him.
But then Sonakshi having his baby , would have made Ishweri bow down too. Dev as well would have been frantic..you see thats the cue for Dev to play the husband, protective father card. We know Dixits would have licked the floor at that point for Sona.


At this point this question and freedom of choice to a 6-7 year older seems to be an emotional trope.

- I'd disagree on that point. Sona informed her daughter of the truth and handed her the choice. She may have made a different choice, but Sonakshi didn't make it into a final stand either unlike Ishwari who issued ultimatum of either choose Sona and forget pre-nup or forget her for ever.
Nope, this choice cannot be independent of what Dev would have done had he knew she was expecting their child which was formed after consented sex during the time they were going through all those shitty arguments.

Soha knows the truth now and if in future, she chooses to meet her father at any point of life, I am sure Sonakshi will give her the same choice. Just because Soha chose otherwise now, there's no reason to believe that she won't choose differently later in life.
It is not about Sona denying the child now or ever. it's about what has already happened. If ever the custody case comes to the Court, the reason is never strong enough to deny a willing parent even visitation rights unless under some duress.
That choice to Soha is manipulative because she is now given a choice between a loving parent against an ambiguity. How would the choice ever be fair?

Also, Sonakshi is going with Soha to Delhi where she will get an award which means media coverage. She has made no attempt to hide her daughter. She could have left her in Kolkata with her grandparents.
Biggest lol of the show. Sona is ex-wife of a bigshot businessman who was regularly featured in papers and she is now a succcessful person who gets all these awards and media coverage. So pretty impossible that there is no media over her personal life or that she movement wasn't played out in media. Plot trap. Sonakshi is taking the kid coz now the dad has to enter and kick start the new season

Dev could have at any point of time found out about his daughter. He just was never interested. Because for Dev 7% chance of conceiving = barren and hence he wrote her off. Despite the fertility expert saying that if Sonakshi is stress free, she might conceive. Now I know it's a far-fetched idea to suddenly an infertile woman conceiving but not unheard of.

The point is that Dev did absolutely no research or gathered any information after finding out about Sonakshi's condition and once he reached the conclusion that Sonakshi can't be mother, the possibility of 7% chance never crossed his mind even though they were trying for a baby.
Bingo, see I am glad he never kept tabs on Sona because that would mean his stalker tendencies be at it again and denying Sona the basic freedom. For him the break was clean but it won\t have been so, if the baby was known to him. He would be constantly at Sona's business .

This is a tv show, in the end, this is a start to a new HEA for the 3 but it makes it really manipulative of both the leads. Sigh..will give up in few days when Sona and Dev's story re-starts. Meh.

- I agree with you there. In real life, people in similar circumstances would never get back together. But oh well. It's TV show.


The reason why I feel we need to understand that bad marriage doesn't mean we screw up parenting or cannot foster the concept of co-parenting as separated couple. The reason why RogerRocks and I are emphasizing at this point because the end result is the couple will be united which is why these tactics like child hiding are stupid and silly , nothing more but a plot device . But very insulting to the core concept of parenting and handling of separations. So the whole bravado of Sona hiding the child , changing profession , leap etc , etc seem superficial. There ain't no logic to what any of them did.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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The reason why I mocked the whole business thing because it was to serve the meeting pt aka the award thing she is getting. Also to bring in the platform where ML and FL can again communicate. Hence this is why I meant extrapolation of ML. You are bringing or decorating your FL with a trait which is essentially to serve up the ML storyline.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: tia.o

Believe it or not, I want Dev to present his Casanova image in the award function. I will explain why. You see, award functions like that has video coverage. If Dev ever sues for sole custody, it will be super easy for Sonakshi's lawyer to present the video coverage as proof where the child's mother is receiving "Business Woman of the Year" award and the child's father is parading numerous ladies. Guess who will be awarded custody then?

You see, with people like Dev who is always ready to buy people, you need as much weapon in your kitty as you can. Like I said, people fight tooth and nail for things that matter. And for a mother, her child matters. Specifically if the child decides to stay with her mother.

@Bold 🤣 you seriously think so..even if Dev does the parade, Sona's lawyer won't use it...the lawyers lack ideas in Tv world and logic too.

But I don't think custody case will ever come. Dev loves his mother, I doubt he'll try to separate Suhana from her mother. Even Sona would not force Soha to choose. So, it'll be on Soha.
The little kid will probably like to spend sometime with both.

After watching the last news about Dev blaming Ish, I feel, both Ishwari and Sona will come together in season-2 for Dev. They'll bring the required happiness in Dev's life...Ish will do it to get back her son. Season-2 is full of ironies.

Soha will definitely spend sometime in Dixit household. And if she ever does, Dev and Ishwari will vehemently protect her from anything and everything...which they rarely did for Sona.

Its going to be all irony irony irony...I'm loving it...😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Yep, I agree. The dal looks totally black to me.

Originally posted by: .IamShonali.


Exactly! He didnt go for 7 years and why go now? So he is clearly upto something. And I also believe that instead of wanting to give Sona that shock, he would himself end up getting the shock of his life if Sona would introduce Soha on stage or atleast call her on the stage and dedicate the award to her coz after all Soha is her biggest achievement of her life. So whatever it is, jhatka toh dixits ko hi lagna hai. And I think it will be really dramatic if dixits are shown watching the coverage in their house and knowing Soha's truth😆

And yes, there is nothing Dixits can do other than play the blame game or act as a victims. And I would definitely want Sona to give them back and this with style. I really do want Sona to shove it on Ish's face on how she never did and she never will tie Soha in the boundaries of her past and will let her do whatever she wants to do. I dont know if Ish's feels guilty or still blames Sona for whatever happened. I know Dev did blame Ish but whether she has accepted her fault or is playing the victim game again is what I want to see

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: tia.o

Yep, I agree. The dal looks totally black to me.



I know😆 And I really want to know how much daal is black 😆 I have never been excited to watch this show before. I do want to know what happens next and how the truth of Soha will unfold to dixits and how will they react😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: charminggenie


- I agree with you. Sonakshi should have never gone back. However, as I mentioned that there were two things that was the reason of her keeping the child away.

1. Dev relinquished all rights to their children and children's rights to him at the event of divorce as per pre-nup. It was a legal document prepared by lawyer, signed by Dev. Sonakshi doesn't know about how it came through.
Indian law doesn't recognize pre-nups. They are null and void. Divorce laws, especially custody ones favour the mother mostly. It's a fictional show, it's a lazyass excuse if we need legal technicalities to cover something.

- That is so weird. I didn't know that. Dev's lawyer himself suggested a pre-nup. If it is legally not recognized by the law in India and only is a piece of paper, why would any lawyer recommend it to the client and in fact go behind the client's back screwing client's confidentially which is legally enforceable to his mother and re-enforcing it's necessity? Such huge plot holes.

Anyhoo, at the end of the day, Sonakshi was not lawyer. She was a pregnant woman on her own without her husband with her entire family's responsibility on her. Whatever choice she made, is not something I can disagree with considering her role as a wife ended and she was playing the role of a daughter as well as a mother at that time.

Of course it's all speculation at this point. But that's what I think. May be, I have extra sympathy for abused women and very little for the abusive family who ganged up against her.


2. As a daughter whose parents' property was mortgages to the neck and knowing her husband's tendency to hit on the opponent's livelihood (also the fact that she thought that Dev threw them out of their home), she had reason to believe that Dev will snatch her baby and destroy her parents' life using his money and power which he is capable of based on his past behaviour. Her parents needed her protection at that time, more than the man who has broken her heart and threw her love and sacrifice on her face.
So what changes now? That fear should be present forever that someday Dev will snatch her baby, irrespective of the power angles.I am sure she would be aware of Dev's anger too, if he now realizes that she hid the child from him. Legally, if he tries to pursue, he can now have the upper hand where the Courts will see that irrespective of solid ground Sonakshi Bose , hid the child from the father and denied the rights. Your point about protection would have been valid at that moment but it's been years now..she is supposedly a successful person..which means even couple of years or an year back , storyline, she would have been able to "protect" her family and fight Dev for a custody? So why hide?

- Again, Sonakshi never hid her child. Dev could have any point of time find out about her. He knew they were trying for a baby. Sonakshi only had 7% chance but she did not have no chance. Otherwise the fertility expert won't ask them to try in a stress free environment.

I am glad Dev didn't stalk Sonakshi. But he never even try to find out if their tries were successful or not. Like I said, he wrote Sonakshi off as barren the day he found out.

However we are yet to see Sonakshi's side of the story. We have only seen the spoiler for Dev's side.

If Sona is okay for her baby to choose her dad at this point then I wanna know how is it independent of the fear she had about Dev snatching the baby.

- Because of two things.

1. Dev can no longer snatch her child against the child's will. Now she is on the same social standing as I mentioned before. And hence only child can decide which parent she would like to live with.

2. She is not without her fears that Soha might choose Dev. But the fact that she swallowed that fear and let Soha decide without manipulating or enfluencing her decision is what a good parent does.

That's why people say that your behaviour determines your trustworthiness and character. Dev would never believe that Sonakshi can bring someone to street, but Sonakshi herself went through that and so did Ranveer. And Dev was unapologetic then which makes one think that this is not at all a difficult thing to do for him.
But then Sonakshi having his baby , would have made Ishweri bow down too. Dev as well would have been frantic..you see thats the cue for Dev to play the husband, protective father card. We know Dixits would have licked the floor at that point for Sona.

- But then, Dev also played the loving husband who did not care about children only to turn the next day. Ishwari also said that she loves Sonakshi for herself not for her baby, yet the moment she found out there's no baby, she turned on Sonakshi. What is the guarantee they won't pretend to care for her again only to take away her baby using her family's situation as leverage. Who gives that kind of weapon to people who have deceived before?


At this point this question and freedom of choice to a 6-7 year older seems to be an emotional trope.

- I'd disagree on that point. Sona informed her daughter of the truth and handed her the choice. She may have made a different choice, but Sonakshi didn't make it into a final stand either unlike Ishwari who issued ultimatum of either choose Sona and forget pre-nup or forget her for ever.
Nope, this choice cannot be independent of what Dev would have done had he knew she was expecting their child which was formed after consented sex during the time they were going through all those shitty arguments.

- But Sonakshi found out about her pregnancy after her divorce. So same rules apply.

Soha knows the truth now and if in future, she chooses to meet her father at any point of life, I am sure Sonakshi will give her the same choice. Just because Soha chose otherwise now, there's no reason to believe that she won't choose differently later in life.
It is not about Sona denying the child now or ever. it's about what has already happened. If ever the custody case comes to the Court, the reason is never strong enough to deny a willing parent even visitation rights unless under some duress.
That choice to Soha is manipulative because she is now given a choice between a loving parent against an ambiguity. How would the choice ever be fair?

- The fact that Soha was given a choice at 6 years old is fair. If Sona was manipulative,

1. She could have let the lie continue. Sona never asked for her dad.

2. She could have told all truthful incidents that has happened to her at Dixit house and make Dev look like someone whom her daughter would have hated even before meeting him.

3. She won't have respected her daughter's decision to move with her father without anyway trying to influence her, emotionally blackmail her or trying to use guilt trip.

In which definition is that a sign of a manipulative parent? It's like saying that a parent giving a choice of an excellent arranged alliance vs. the girl's own choice of groom is being manipulative because obviously, the girl will choose the familiar man. Having a choice to decide without anyone influencing your decision is the most fair thing anyone can have. Now if the choice is in favour of the person giving a choice, it's not that person's fault. An unfair person will issue ultimatums not give choices..

Also, Sonakshi is going with Soha to Delhi where she will get an award which means media coverage. She has made no attempt to hide her daughter. She could have left her in Kolkata with her grandparents.
Biggest lol of the show. Sona is ex-wife of a bigshot businessman who was regularly featured in papers and she is now a succcessful person who gets all these awards and media coverage. So pretty impossible that there is no media over her personal life or that she movement wasn't played out in media. Plot trap. Sonakshi is taking the kid coz now the dad has to enter and kick start the new season

- Agreed on that. And how doesn't Elena know about Sona's child considering Elena's mother and Asha are sisters and they have been living in Kolkata for 7 years.

Dev could have at any point of time found out about his daughter. He just was never interested. Because for Dev 7% chance of conceiving = barren and hence he wrote her off. Despite the fertility expert saying that if Sonakshi is stress free, she might conceive. Now I know it's a far-fetched idea to suddenly an infertile woman conceiving but not unheard of.

The point is that Dev did absolutely no research or gathered any information after finding out about Sonakshi's condition and once he reached the conclusion that Sonakshi can't be mother, the possibility of 7% chance never crossed his mind even though they were trying for a baby.
Bingo, see I am glad he never kept tabs on Sona because that would mean his stalker tendencies be at it again and denying Sona the basic freedom. For him the break was clean but it won\t have been so, if the baby was known to him. He would be constantly at Sona's business .

- Yes, I agree on that too. Another reason for not telling Dev about the baby.

This is a tv show, in the end, this is a start to a new HEA for the 3 but it makes it really manipulative of both the leads. Sigh..will give up in few days when Sona and Dev's story re-starts. Meh.

- I agree with you there. In real life, people in similar circumstances would never get back together. But oh well. It's TV show.


The reason why I feel we need to understand that bad marriage doesn't mean we screw up parenting or cannot foster the concept of co-parenting as separated couple. The reason why RogerRocks and I are emphasizing at this point because the end result is the couple will be united which is why these tactics like child hiding are stupid and silly , nothing more but a plot device . But very insulting to the core concept of parenting and handling of separations. So the whole bravado of Sona hiding the child , changing profession , leap etc , etc seem superficial. There ain't no logic to what any of them did.

- I agree. This is not a logical show. Where in the world a man can tell so many lies and get away scot free? Or resort to criminal activity like hiding medical report without anyone putting them in jail? I don't even know what is the need of these two people to come together to be honest. Not to mention how can two high profile rich people is never on media for seven years. Not to mention, Elena's mother lives in Kolkata where her sister Asha also lives, how can Elena doesn't know about Soha? Elena didn't even bother calling her favourite cousin for seven years? Sonakshi divorced Dev, not Elena. Like I said, totally illogical plot.


Edited by tia.o - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Amazing discussions, specially for the points on Sonakshi's new found success and her decision to hide it from Dev.

Well yes Indian Tele is a lala-land and anything can happen here 😆. However, Business is made more of ideas and not of educational background much. I dont need to draw examples from real life who succeeded in their brands within a very very short period irrespective of their background. So I can buy Sona's being a businesswoman in just 6 yrs because she has shown the traits multiple times in the show 😉.


However, I also feel a husband/ex-husband/lover/BF/XYZ guy should know about the status of his fatherhood, cuz like somebody mentioned, a guy can be a total asshole, but can be proven a good dad. In fact a child does bring many positive changes in a man's life. I have seen that happening in reality. But here more than Sona, I blame Dev. Considering Sona's position 7 yrs back, it was QUITE evident that after his hangover is over, Dev would have run to Ishu to apologize for his misbehaviour, and if he found out Sona's pregnant, looking at his track record of fixing things temporarily, he would force Sona to come back to his life since Ishu would now 'lau' her equally too (in his own past lala-land). And if Sona refused to come back, Dev would have 100000% tried to snatch the kid from Sona for his mother and blame it all on Sona that it was her choice not to come back, not his. Yes it looks like a profile of an evil jackass, well he was one 😛.


So the only way left for Sona was to hide it from Dev at that point. A wife can neglect her husband's trash behaviour, but a mother can never take a decision without going through each of the possibility of the consequences. Why I blame Dev is, I heard pre-nup fell on his face and he blew up his identity of momma's boy ever since then. But what happened that he didn't extend his search for Sona ? For what does he hold a grudge against her ???? I fail to understand this. A normal mind would realize the true colours of his evil mother and would want to get back the only good thing of his life. Did Dev try any ? No because why trying to hold onto a 7% fertile woman ! 😵 I am tired of seeing a hate-hate relationship in every love-story post-leap. But today I saw Sona's indifference when she said those words 'matter nahi karta'. I just HOPE against my hope that they continue this new angle instead of spouting meaningless blames onto each other and just be parents ! Dev-Sona love-story should also end on a tragic note only. There is no way today's indifference would turn into a story of inseparable lovers tomorrow. It's not a switch off-on-off-on.


P.S. - For one thing I dont blame Dev and that is - who would think that the honeymoon was a 'stress-free' honeymoon that Sonakshi would become pregnant after that 🤣. Poor guy must have eliminated the thought of Sona's pregnancy remembering the dreadful 'stress-free' night !
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Hello beautiful ladies 🤗
@Tia: Nice post as always, although I am still not watching. And I can trust what you write but it's hard to trust that CVs will do justice to the story, so I go by your updates when I get some time.

@Pehchaan. Kaun : Indeed amazing (&most importantly intellectual) discussions. So kudos to all for that 👍🏼

@Genie: Good to see you here. You remind me of KYY MaNan ATs 😳 😛

And as always I am posting slightly unrelated video: YET, the title of the video and the 1st few minutes made me draw so many similarities between KRPKAB and this modern day Mahabharata 🤪 Ishu & Kunti, Arjun & Dev

Enjoy 😆

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59RaG_xXreM[/YOUTUBE]
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Amazing discussions, specially for the points on Sonakshi's new found success and her decision to hide it from Dev.

Well yes Indian Tele is a lala-land and anything can happen here 😆. However, Business is made more of ideas and not of educational background much. I dont need to draw examples from real life who succeeded in their brands within a very very short period irrespective of their background. So I can buy Sona's being a businesswoman in just 6 yrs.


However, I also feel a husband/ex-husband/lover/BF/XYZ guy should know about the status of his fatherhood, cuz like somebody mentioned, a guy can be a total asshole, but can be proven a good dad. In fact a child does bring many positive changes in a man's life. I have seen that happening in reality. But here more than Sona, I blame Dev. Considering Sona's position 7 yrs back, it was QUITE evident that after his hangover is over, Dev would have run to Ishu to apologize for his misbehaviour, and if he found out Sona's pregnant, looking at his track record of fixing things temporarily, he would force Sona to come back to his life since Ishu would now 'lau' her equally too (in his own past lala-land). And if Sona refused to come back, Dev would have 100000% tried to snatch the kid from Sona for his mother and blame it all on Sona that it was her choice not to come back, not his. Yes it looks like a profile of an evil jackass, well he was one 😛.

- You know, I really really want to see exactly what Dev did after his hangover was over (Knowing his tendency to forget everything after drinking) and how he found out what he has done. Mind you, if he still remembers everything after this time, I'd think he was faking the previous times. He remembered everything but pretended to forget so that he doesn't have to take accountability of his actions.

Also, I'd want to know when Sona found out she was pregnant what was going on in her life and mind. We are speculating at this point but I'd like to know what she was thinking.

Also let's not forget, last time she tried to call Dev, Vicky cut the call. It's possible that Radha or Vicky didn't let her talk to Dev saying Dev doesn't care about what she is upto?


So the only way left for Sona was to hide it from Dev at that point. A wife can neglect her husband's trash behaviour, but a mother can never take a decision without going through each of the possibility of the consequences. But why I blame Dev is, I heard pre-nup fell on his face and he blew up his identity of momma's boy ever since then. But what happened that he didn't extend his search for Sona ? For what does he hold a grudge against her ???? I fail to understand this. A normal mind would realize the true colours of his evil mother and would want to get back the only good thing of his life. Did Dev try any ? No because why trying to hold onto a 7% fertile woman ! 😵 I am tired of seeing a hate-hate relationship in every love-story post-leap. But today I saw Sona's indifference when she said those words 'matter nahi karta'. I just HOPE against my hope that they continue this new angle instead of spouting meaningless blames onto each other and just be parents ! Dev-Sona love-story should also end on a tragic note only. There is no way today's indifference would turn into a story of inseparable lovers tomorrow. It's not a switch off-on-off-on.

- Yes, why Dev has grudge against Sona, I'd like to know as well. Because if anything, she is the one he hurt most and she is the one who kept coming back for him without ever being in any of his consideration. If anything, he should hate himself for ruining his marriage for his mother who only cares about herself.

But then, when did Dev ever take responsibility for his actions?


P.S. - For one thing I dont blame Dev and that is - who would think that the honeymoon was a 'stress-free' honeymoon that Sonakshi would become pregnant after that 🤣. Poor guy must have eliminated the thought of Sona's pregnancy remembering the dreadful 'stress-free' night !

- Lol true no? Even then he managed to convince Sona to try for a baby though. 😆

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