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Posted: 8 years ago
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👏 And Dev and Sona totally failed in this criteria.


When we have a character like Dev, who cannot come out of the pathetic possessive fatal toxic upbringing he had, who felt so free, open, independent when he met Sona YET failed to consume the all of it i.e. love, who failed to grow an identity of his own out of Ishwari's shadow, in the other hand we have Sonakshi Bose who despite being blessed with such wonderful family, failed their upbringing BIG time. When Dev needed to balance between his obsessive mother and give Sona the much needed respect and acknowledgment, Sona failed to protect the honour of her family time and again and surrendered herself into being a totally different personality, almost feels like a Multiple Personality Disorder Syndrome if I compare before and after marriage Sona.


At the end of the day, every person is the author of his/her own destiny. Cannot help but blame anyone except Sona in this mess which has landed in the house of Boses now. The least Sonakshi can do as a daughter is to respectfully break all ties with her baba since she failed to protect their honour and their upbringing. Let her continue whatever 'XYZ' 'Best Bahu' 'Baby' mission she is into. 😕
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Yes , this is also true...but how...only thru mistakes and watching others...In case of Dev he is ONLY taught to love his mother and understand his mom's needs and pain...for that matter Ishwari is so smart that she has seen to that his sisters also are not close to him...
Would like to quote an example...dogs used for gaurding the farm and hunting are primarily trained to recognize ONE MASTER. Dev is brought up that way, he is trained ONLY to recognise ISHWARI!!...but the natural needs to have a mate in every living beings life brings him closer to Sona...he falls in love with her...now he is confused...he recognises his personal needs but his loyalty to his master is pulling him away from his personal needs. Here there is a big conflict of interest...and this conflict of interest with his temperamental and impulsive character is destroying him.
Now it is for HIM to decide what he needs to do because he is all messed up...would he want to pick up the broken pieces of his life and mend his ways according to his moms needs or would he want to mend ways to live a life of HIS CHOICE !!

Vimal in no way I was trying to justify his actions...for people like me , a mother of single son this story is a great learning ...how not to bring up your son...how ruthlessly you can destroy his life if you bring him up ONLY to recognise /respect mom and her feelings...because me as a mother needs to understand that my son has a life of his own ...where he should take decisions and choices in life...and if his choices are not in line with mine that doesnt make him a bad son...

Many a times especially in our society , I have felt that son's are burdened and emotionally black mailed to do what the parents want by saying how much parents have done for them ...and this is something that we need to remove ...and which is wrong ..parents are blessed with kids , so that they can make a good human being out of them and one day they are going to fly away to have their own family which is what we need...then why raise them with ONE MASTER methods /concept.

My intention of the post of was not to justify Dev but to make us think that upbringing also takes a huge hit on character , some learn to correct by themselves ...others perish...

It is to be seen if Dev will perish or survive...

PS : no child is born out of a mothers womb as a criminal...society ,upbringing and the environment in which he/she is brought up has a great role to play in the character formation of a child.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pehchaan.Kaun



👏 And Dev and Sona totally failed in this criteria.


When we have a character like Dev, who cannot come out of the pathetic possessive fatal toxic upbringing he had, who felt so free, open, independent when he met Sona YET failed to consume the all of it i.e. love, who failed to grow an identity of his own out of Ishwari's shadow, in the other hand we have Sonakshi Bose who despite being blessed with such wonderful family, failed their upbringing BIG time. When Dev needed to balance between his obsessive mother and give Sona the much needed respect and acknowledgment, Sona failed to protect the honour of her family time and again and surrendered herself into being a totally different personality, almost feels like a Multiple Personality Disorder Syndrome if I compare before and after marriage Sona.


At the end of the day, every person is the author of his/her own destiny. Cannot help but blame anyone except Sona in this mess which has landed in the house of Boses now. The least Sonakshi can do as a daughter is to respectfully break all ties with her baba since she failed to protect their honour and their upbringing. Let her continue whatever 'XYZ' 'Best Bahu' 'Baby' mission she is into. 😕


The problem with Dev and Sona is they have no voice of their own , and this is primarly because of Dev and his blind loyalty to his mom ...until and unless he changes his path , I see only a disastrous marriage for them. He doesnt have to choose between his mom and his wife . This is the first thing he needs to understand...because both have diff roles to play...if he doesnt redeem now and take a stand for himself ...he will be killing his life ...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: gemini54

Great Post

We are victims of our circumstances . But, we cannot always take refuge that the path of our circumstances has caused us to behave a certain way because then we are always standing in the same place with no growth and without growth our lives do come to a stand still

Dev is not hated just his in actions , his stop gap solutions to find easy way out and his seeming lack of empathy is what is being questioned because that certainly is not good partner material


I do agree with you regarding this

As mothers of sons we need to teach our boys to love and respect all because that is our duty and also make him understand others pain and misery too... Bad grooming and selfish upbringing can only bring misery to family .

I would also like to add that we need to teach our daughters to claim what is rightfully theirs


Totally agree on this...I am glad you understood that my intention of the post was not to support Dev but to highlight how upbringing reflects on kids characters when they grow up ...and how some times our selfish approach ,ruthlessly destroy their personal life.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kaustuv

I am of the opinion that your upbringing and struggles can't justify the crimes u commit. It's like pardoning Rape in view of the culprit sorry state.

This argument would have hold true had he defended his inlaws when they were constantly insulted by his mom and RR. Had he done that the situation would not have escalated . He clearly showed his wife and her family their place in his life. He treats them a bit better than domestic help , obvious physical intimacy .

He did not slap his FL ,the slap was directed to his wife to show her place, to his MIL and BIL defending him and of course his FIL the collateral causality which proved his fear abt the family and ML.

About the much hyped sex scene ,ML was in mission merely fulfilling his moms orders. He was making advances throughout the trip , he used all his resource, charm, flirt and what worked for him was his shear male force. FL I can understand her surrender, she was down, in her worst phase emotionally and not to forget she really loves him unlike her hubby.




@ BOLD ...agreed with you ...100% spot on...yesterday a lot of people said it was accidental ...I dont see it that way...he reacted to what Bijoy said and that was NO ACCIDENTAL HIT ...while he was trying to pacify the situation ...not even once did he think that Bijoy is Sona's dad... he ONLY saw his mother at that point in time...This is why in my reply to Vimal I said he more like a trained dog who recognises ONE MASTER

He might regret his action but what is the use?? What ever had to happen did happen,,,and who is at loss more ?? HIM!! his image is lost in front of every one by that action...above all he has hurt the one person he loves so much...so didnt that come at a cost ?? I am not justifying any of his misbehaviour...but trying to highlight how upbringing can reflect the character of a person...

I would love to see how they are going to redeem this character...

As far as the romance goes ...it is primarily to balance this slap...its more of a marketing gimmick to maintain their TRP...and I felt that entire sequence was bladly done...especially that hidden lip lock...and the car scene...very poor graphics...felt like watching old hindi movie😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: WeRockTheWorld


Yes , this is also true...but how...only thru mistakes and watching others...In case of Dev he is ONLY taught to love his mother and understand his mom's needs and pain...for that matter Ishwari is so smart that she has seen to that his sisters also are not close to him...
Would like to quote an example...dogs used for gaurding the farm and hunting are primarily trained to recognize ONE MASTER. Dev is brought up that way, he is trained ONLY to recognise ISHWARI!!...but the natural needs to have a mate in every living beings life brings him closer to Sona...he falls in love with her...now he is confused...he recognises his personal needs but his loyalty to his master is pulling him away from his personal needs. Here there is a big conflict of interest...and this conflict of interest with his temperamental and impulsive character is destroying him.
Now it is for HIM to decide what he needs to do because he is all messed up...would he want to pick up the broken pieces of his life and mend his ways according to his moms needs or would he want to mend ways to live a life of HIS CHOICE !!

Vimal in no way I was trying to justify his actions...for people like me , a mother of single son this story is a great learning ...how not to bring up your son...how ruthlessly you can destroy his life if you bring him up ONLY to recognise /respect mom and her feelings...because me as a mother needs to understand that my son has a life of his own ...where he should take decisions and choices in life...and if his choices are not in line with mine that doesnt make him a bad son...

Many a times especially in our society , I have felt that son's are burdened and emotionally black mailed to do what the parents want by saying how much parents have done for them ...and this is something that we need to remove ...and which is wrong ..parents are blessed with kids , so that they can make a good human being out of them and one day they are going to fly away to have their own family which is what we need...then why raise them with ONE MASTER methods /concept.

My intention of the post of was not to justify Dev but to make us think that upbringing also takes a huge hit on character , some learn to correct by themselves ...others perish...

It is to be seen if Dev will perish or survive...

PS : no child is born out of a mothers womb as a criminal...society ,upbringing and the environment in which he/she is brought up has a great role to play in the character formation of a child.



@Bold - Lets see Dev will perish or survive.

@Red - I agree on this point.But not all parents do it.I am lucky.That my parents be it my mom or dad never burdened or emotionally blackmail.Slowly it's changing.Family does not look Son's as FD.Some family has started understanding.Son's also have their own life.But it will take more time to change.

Yes upbringing is a key factor in shaping up a person.I agree with that.But we cannot always cover up any one's wrong due to upbringing.Like U said.Some learn from their mistake n try to be a better person.

Yest in Beyadh show Maya says a dialogue - Joh Bandan Nibana Paho.Usme Bandna Nahi Chaiye[Honestly I felt it suits Dev more.I feel he cannot fulfill duty as Husband N SIL.He should been a bachelor life long]



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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pehchaan.Kaun



👏 And Dev and Sona totally failed in this criteria.


When we have a character like Dev, who cannot come out of the pathetic possessive fatal toxic upbringing he had, who felt so free, open, independent when he met Sona YET failed to consume the all of it i.e. love, who failed to grow an identity of his own out of Ishwari's shadow, in the other hand we have Sonakshi Bose who despite being blessed with such wonderful family, failed their upbringing BIG time. When Dev needed to balance between his obsessive mother and give Sona the much needed respect and acknowledgment, Sona failed to protect the honour of her family time and again and surrendered herself into being a totally different personality, almost feels like a Multiple Personality Disorder Syndrome if I compare before and after marriage Sona.


At the end of the day, every person is the author of his/her own destiny. Cannot help but blame anyone except Sona in this mess which has landed in the house of Boses now. The least Sonakshi can do as a daughter is to respectfully break all ties with her baba since she failed to protect their honour and their upbringing. Let her continue whatever 'XYZ' 'Best Bahu' 'Baby' mission she is into. 😕



More than Dev character.I am worried to see Sona character being butchered so badly.She compromise on everything.Just be with Dev n happily romance him.If she does not take a strong stand for Bijoy.She does not deserve a dad like Bijoy.Bijoy should cut all ties with Sona n should not allow her to enter the house.Sona can be a life long slave in Dixit house.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pehchaan.Kaun

Well I am able to hate Dev. Dev, despite being a grownass man, doesn't have his own identity. His lameass sorry is not gonna work on me. Accident my foot, it was QUITE intentional and how !!

I am disgusted by what they are showing in the episode with each passing day. What did Sona mean that I have to be with him right now ? What a lame daughter.


Bijoy is the most unfortunate character in the show who just witnessed the death of his little princess right in front of his eyes.


@ BOLD ...Oh I am glad there are ppl who felt it was intentional...because even I felt it was an impulsive action that came out of anger...

Regarding the show...oh I had lost hopes long back...they are on achieve TRP track...😆

A lot of people were bashing Bijoy for his loud talk etc...but I cant because being a daughter I know how my dad would have reacted if any one behaved to me the way Sona was treated at her in laws place...my father wont even stand there and argue ...he would just lift me from there and take me home...😆
Fathers of daughters these days are very different . Daughters are their pride and they bring them up to stand on their own legs ...make them financially independent...in many of my earlier post I had said that Bijoy is one character that is going to be challenge for Dev...and I am glad I was spot on...I would love to see Bijoy putting conditions...after all he is father of a daughter !!😉
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I seriously don't understand the theory of some saying Bijoy is loud.What do they expect Bijoy to do.When his family being insulted.Called all sort of names.Because Bijoy is a father of daughter.He has not right to defend him n his family.Seriously I fail to understand some theory.Even some were trying to defend Dev slap saying.Bijoy was standing behind Dev.I am shocked.Reading some theories.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: VIMAL.M



More than Dev character.I am worried to see Sona character being butchered so badly.She compromise on everything.Just be with Dev n happily romance him.If she does not take a strong stand for Bijoy.She does not deserve a dad like Bijoy.Bijoy should cut all ties with Sona n should not allow her to enter the house.Sona can be a life long slave in Dixit house.


Again , you do have point ...but let me remind you ...there is a character called Asha...Sona's mother is another culprit for destroying Sona...every time this girl thinks of giving back , she plays the "patience card "...be that typical , understanding , ever so sacrificing wife ...😡 ...and Sona gets hypnotised ...

Again tutoring destroying the relationship ..

You know all this happens because our parents fail to understand we have grown and we have the right to make decisions when it comes to our personal life...in both the cases of Sona and Dev..each others family consider their son/daughters spouse as a threat to their kids...just because the choice of the spouse was done by their kids.,,,,and then what they do is when things go wrong they keep interfering and try to take control of the situations in such a way that their respective kid will benefit...

Its high time both Dev and Sona put an end to this outside interference...and tell their respective families to mind their own business.

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