Created

Last reply

Replies

73

Views

9k

Users

19

Likes

149

Frequent Posters

thedramaqueen thumbnail
9th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail Engager Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: SandyAquarius



But I see this current intimate scene as something that is the result of Devakshi's love for one another. Sona is at her vulnerable most and after her outburst Dev will no doubt fear losing her...putting them both on a edge...the edge where they fear losing each other. And that fear drives Dev to show how much he loves Sona...Soul mind and body. "with my body I thee worship" is a wedding vow and that is what Dev sets out to show Sona and probably, the conception of their child in that moment makes it even more special.

Ishwari may have sent them there...but she almost drove them apart. What actually makes their intimacy happen is their love for one another...not Ishwari.

and Sandy I thought I was a hopeless romantic on this board
Bravo lady.. I cant decide which one of the two I want to see tonight... your or Shavi
Krpkab_meg thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago
#22

Happy New Year DQ!! The picture on twitter is definitely for garnering TRP but the need for this now confuses me too, I was hoping someone on the forum might have already decoded it but here is my view on the subject.

The makers have been using their physical intimacy to demonstrate the stages of their relationship from the time of their courtship. During their courtship and the initial days of the marriage Dev was the one who initiated and kept pushing for intimacy and Sonakshi always held back. Intimacy was a way of surrender for Dev, to let her know that was all he has to offer her, the only part of him that truly is only him; Dev the man his love and friendship. His loyalty, time and money belonged and will always belong to his family and if at any point he had to pick over Dev vs the son, brother, provider for his family it would always be the latter. This understanding is what he expected from Sonakshi at the time of break-up; while she always did she never explicitly expressed it to him and could understand how it was so easy for him. She not only shut him out but also made hurtful remarks about his relationship with Ishwari and he couldn't fathom that she thought this was easy for him.

With the Vicky job issue this lack of understanding between them was highlighted and magnified on the day of dussera over the double dinner. This probably was the reason why Dev wanted her to initiate the patch-up but the issue got brushed off with the fear of finding of the fertility reports. Sonakshi realised that they can't resume their relationship from where they had left off before the break-up. They had to work to reach the understanding they shared and the first place to start was intimacy. Had their SR happened the night of their marriage they may have probably made an emotional connect because they both shared the pain of losing each other and the joy of finally being with each other. By the time they did the moment was lost; although special it failed to make them bond like it should have. Although Sonakshi initiated the SR she always held back and still does because she wanted assurance that he would always stand by her immaterial of anything Ishwari felt, said or did.

Dev realised that Sonakshi does understand his priorities and is supportive of it when he cancelled the HM and when Asha helped her to when she was left waiting for him at the club on his Birthday. We can see him being more vocal in support of Sonakshi with his family after these incidences and his support is a big deal for her and hence the progress in their intimacy. With the discovery of infertility and Dev's lack of regard for what Ishwari thinks has finally made Sona somewhat secure that he won't leave her and hence she is vocal with him on her discomfort with Ishwari's involvement in their life while she was not earlier. What tipped Sona in Friday's episode was not Ishwari's interference but Dev's indifference. While infertility problem should be about them, Ishwari managed to make it about her and Dev was letting her. The "help me to help you" by Dev I think meant that. The only person who makes him want something for himself is her and since their marriage it has always been about Sonakshi vs Ma. She is the only one who acknowledges he is a person with feelings and has his own wants, needs and dreams; and that helps him see himself as an individual notjust Ishwari's son or his sisters' brothe or a provider. I am guessing we will see him finally opening up to her and talking his heart out about his relationship with Ishwari. This may be the growth we have all been waiting to see in their relationship.

This has turned out to be quite a long ramble to what I had initially expected and I don't know if I am even making any sense.

Samanalyse thumbnail
14th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 8 years ago
#23

Count me in as one of the hopeless romantics! I was out of town for the last few days and just caught up on Thursday and Friday's episodes, and I too felt that the creators' choice here to depict a much more "steamy" sex scene than what we are used to directly mirrors Dev and Sona's emotional intimacy. I think it's also smart from a strategic standpoint because a. couples can grow in intimacy, and b. it keeps some novelty alive for a show about a (mostly) happily married couple.


I was so happy with the way they showed the build-up to Sona's final explosion. She struggled to tell Dev what the problem was in ways that kept subverting her actual feelings. Dev as usual, kept finding temporary solutions to these symptoms of Sona's core problem: she didn't like the dress/room/food? Change it. In all of this, he could only guess what was really bothering her and try to say what seemed most appropriate. All he had to go by was the question she had asked him about whether he would still love her if she didn't conceive, so he just kept answering it until Sona let him in more.


It was only with her outburst that she expressed what she was really feeling to Dev, finally allowing her pain to be the center of attention. What she wants is to feel like herself again, her confident, self-assured self, who is not defined by her ability or lack thereof to have kids, but every time she tries, one of Ishwari's ministrations, or Dev's own words of "comfort" drag her back down into the feeling that she is inadequate. Dev needed to hear this in so many words for the message to get across.


This is the difference between Ishwari and Sona. Ishwari makes sure her feelings are known and demands what she wants. That is why Dev appears so much more at her beck and call -- she constantly, and sometimes deliberately presents problems that he has to solve. Sona does the opposite, which is why it so often looks like Dev is neglectful of her.


But finally Sona has presented Dev with a problem... and I predict his intimate behaviour will be the first step in an attempt to make Sona feel beautiful, loved, and hot just as she is. He did it by accident when she came out for dinner, and I think that is why she was remembering their old moments while they were dancing. She was remembering what it felt like to be Sonakshi Bose, the woman who -- before the outside world, including Ishwari, entered their relationship -- was sound in the knowledge that she was adored by Dev Dixit, and felt deserving of that love.


The juicy part is that now, the solution to Ishwari's problem and the solution to Sona's are in direct conflict. That's where the real fun begins! 😉

Edited by Samanalyse - 8 years ago
Samanalyse thumbnail
14th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 8 years ago
#24
@Meg: I wouldn't have bothered to write so much if I had had a chance to read your response first, because you absolutely nailed it! Dev and Sona's level of intimacy has always been linked to their respective comfort levels. Sona didn't feel comfortable on their SR because she felt unwelcome and at risk of being cast aside again. Dev didn't feel like it when Sona's jhoola had become the "woh" in their relationship. 😆

And I don't think it's a coincidence that their intimacy is most explicit when they are away from Ishwari and her eponymous dwelling. With all the knocking and lack of knocking that happens there, I wouldn't be surprised if they do the deed and then promptly get dressed in anticipation of early-morning visitors. 😕
Edited by Samanalyse - 8 years ago
thedramaqueen thumbnail
9th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail Engager Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago
#25
That's a great analysis Meg & Sam. This is a possibility.. one that seems to be taking the story forward too.. Its not because of Ishwari but inspite of her that that got close.. broke the limitations.
Lets see if Dev opens up with Sona.

thanks for sharing your thoughts
thedramaqueen thumbnail
9th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail Engager Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: Samanalyse


With all the knocking and lack of knocking that happens there, I wouldn't be surprised if they do the deed and then promptly get dressed in anticipation of early-morning visitors. 😕

ROFL at the above.. quick Mrs Dixit hide the lingerie, wear your cotton nightie and go sleep 2 feet away from me... Kichu bhaiya or my little sisters might just walk in any minute now that its 5 AM.. That is so Ishwari niwas!

In fact I totally expect the Manager to walk in with 2 glasses of freshly squeezed juices and a call to their yoga center
Edited by thedramaqueen - 8 years ago
randommusings thumbnail
9th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago
#27
Intimacy wise...they have been very gradual so this just seems like a natural progression to be shown to the viewers after countless kisses,hugs, resort, hickey n sirf mujhe dekhna night.
Timing is also fine...they r in a resort, outside their house...so no one to disturb and away from the worries of the house. Also after Sona's outburst n Dev's realisation...both wud be highly emotional specially Sona n Dev wud give her some much needed support n comfort...which wud extend to physical intimacy. We hv seen it many times in movies when vulnerabilities result in physical intimacy n also true in real life.

But offcourse...couple of issues in all these..

Mamta releasing the pic...they r doing it to make fandom happy n offcouse to create buzz..n she is right majority r happy even if it looks so mistimed. I rembr d buss created during Bade Achche lagte hain intimacy scene...oh it was a very hot discussion topic.

If they dnt resolve the issue n jump into intimacy...then we will nt be able to enjoy the the intimacy. Transition from feeling hurt to romance shud be very gradual.

We all knw wats gonna happen after this..so my mind is already very distracted to enjoy their special romance. It was a really bad move to release slap segment before this scene.

So if Dev gives Sona some assurances...dnt think anyone wud believe a word he wud say...but hoping for the very best.


thedramaqueen thumbnail
9th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail Engager Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago
#28
@random - my confusion is/was that why has the intimacy gradually been shown on screen... When they went full 9 yards on SR and must have done ever since.. I guess Meg & Sam made a point that they may have, but the depiction on screen is to show the emotional connect and breaking loose of Ishwari... I thought it was to show intensity of the overall story
HaiMiz thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Navigator Thumbnail Commentator Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago
#29
Lets be practical here like Yash Patnaik, who spoke in no unclear terms that he isn't here to make documentaries but to tell stories that will fetch them TRP audience that will enable them to multiply their profits. And onscreen intimacy fetches number and monies.
Do you think Aditya Chopra made Bifikre to teach Indian audience how to kiss? Nope. He did it thinking Indian audience will lap up the onscreen intimacy between the leads but of course, he was proven wrong and that is the story for another day.

The point is, will this intimate scene between Dev-Sona save this slap episode or track of KRPKAB from falling further in TRP game which will ultimately prove dangerous for the survival of the show?Lets wait and watch

Edited by SandyAquarius - 8 years ago
randommusings thumbnail
9th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago
#30

Originally posted by: thedramaqueen

@random - my confusion is/was that why has the intimacy gradually been shown on screen... When they went full 9 yards on SR and must have done ever since.. I guess Meg & Sam made a point that they may have, but the depiction on screen is to show the emotional connect and breaking loose of Ishwari... I thought it was to show intensity of the overall story


I think they showed the intimacy gradual keeping the viewers in mind. If they had shown great intimacy right from first time then there wudnt be curiosity or excitement abt their next time, as hw many times viewers wud wnt to see same thing. But by going gradual n slow abt it, they hv maintained viewers interest in their romance...coz with gradual step...like moving from headkiss to should kiss to cheek..we r able to appreciate the romance more n eagerly wait for wats next. Thankfully for once I dnt see any connection with Ish here 😉

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".