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Posted: 8 years ago
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Beautiful Post👏
My two cents worth. I think the creatives are trying to showcase Selfishness versus Selflessness.

Here we have two couples Dev and Sona who are Selfless they believe others happiness are more important than theirs and then we have Elena and Vicky the Selfish couple who do not care for anybody and feel that they are important than others.

When the story of Vicky and Elena emerged I was not sure where the creatives were going with it, but I think I understand now maybe it is to show the stark differences between the two couples even though Sona and Elena may have been brought up the same way and Vicky and Dev to some extent the same both coddled by their mothers.

But the differences are, in the case of Dev he lets his mother make the decisions because of his deep love and respect and almost reverence to her but Vicky though is pampered by his mother just uses her. Elena and Sona had the same loving family in the Bose's but one took the selfish route to find her happiness and Sona took the selfless route.

I think in this journey of contrasts though Dev and Sona may face a lot of issues but will come out stronger and Elena and Vicky marriage may crumble. And the lesson that Dev and Sona may learn is Life can't be lived dualistically they have to also watch out for themselves in order to get balance a little bit of selfishness is also necessary .
Edited by gemini54 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shilky88

I agree wth you that Vicky is jealous of Dev for two reasons

a) for what Dev is-- an extremely successful person
b)for what Dev got as his life partner

We have seen that Vicky is after Sona since starting.
I remember his dialogue when Sona refused him once ..."Agar Sushmita sen nahi to Riya sen sen hi sahi'.. he was referring to Bengalan sisters(Sona and Elena) here.

So it is quiet possible that he married Elena to take revenge or to take take Sona's refusal as a challenge.
we will figure that out in coming episodes.

to your last point:-
Neha(having seen DevSona romance in garden) should understand that money doesn't bring happiness always.
Presence of your loved ones does.


Thank u for the reply 😊
Awesome points. . 👏
Yes I too remembered the dialogues when he was talking to sona at the last..
Neha ..the phase she is going through blinded all her few good qualities like straight forwardness, honest speaking etc.. ergg she needs counselling or practical life lessons to know which is immortal in life..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Samanalyse

I don't think you are over-analysing at all. In fact, if you think back, their shared experience of being overshadowed by Sona and Dev respectively, was the first thing that broke the ice for Elena and Vicky's friendship, and the first genuine conversation Elena allowed. The resentment they share for their goody-two-shoes cousins, to whom they were always compared, is the foundation of their relationship. So I think what you have written about Vicky applies to Elena as well. She wanted what Sona has: the respect she gets as an adult in the family, her unlikely, tumultuous love story, and her perceived fairytale ending.

But what both of these immature kids are missing is the work that Dev and Sona put into what they have, both as individuals and together. If the Boses take Sona seriously, and respect her, it is because she has taken the entire financial burden of the family on her shoulders both before and after marriage, and protects her relationships fiercely. Long before Bijoy stormed in with his "bhatija" strategy, she had taken care of the aunty issue, making her stance clear to both Dev and Ishwari, and defended Asha's feelings. Saurabh's unemployment was a huge concern for the family, but she swooped in and found a solution that allowed him to pursue the kind of work he is interested in, without hurting his pride. And while her love story may have looked glamourous to Elena, only Sona and Dev know what they have gone through to be together today.

That's why the room thing didn't bother me that much (even though the physical reality of it is quite gross). Like Dev used to say when people warned him about losses in his business: I built this step by step and if need be, I can do it again. That confidence and calm that comes with knowing the hard work you have put in is precisely what sets Sona and Dev's relationship apart from Vicky and Elena, who have taken nothing but shortcuts. None of what they have now, including Dev and Sona's room, is something they built from the ground up, so they will never be able to get what they want out of it.

Honestly, I loved today's episode because Sona and Dev had the last laugh, literally 😆 Once their anger cooled, they were like "sure, why not? Pass the popcorn!" Elena and Vicky have already written their own punishment into their future. Elena -- photographer, literature-lover, and social butterfly -- has bound herself to Vicky -- entitled, undereducated, barely employed, monolingual sexist. That ridiculousness of their relationship was visible even in their supposedly lovey-dovey interaction today. Everyone is making these false equivalencies between the two couples but time will show how different they really are. Vicky and Elena need not only what is given to them, but what isn't rightfully theirs in order to be happy. Sona and Dev, in between all the interruptions, with people constantly throwing water on their romance (couldn't resist!), find ways to be happy with each other. yest


You have hit the bulls eye with the comment marked in red. Vicki feels he is entitled to Dev's wealth n he is much more smarter than Dev to handle the business without even moving an inch. He has always been belittled by his parents n thats why he hates Dev n wants to get hold of everything that belongs to him.

Elena has also pointed out multiple times that Sona used to get all praises from family..n their resentment for their cousins (maybe not so apparent in Elena's case but still pretty much there) is what brought them together. How Vicki used to make fun abt Dev n Elena nvr objected coz she felt d same way.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I'm probably going to get hit across the head for suggesting this, but the expression on Sona's face when she re-lit that lamp reminded me so much of Ishwari's reaction when Sona's pallu fell off before the mudikhai. It was that stone-faced, I'm-so-sick-of-this-drama, nobody-is-happy-right-now-but-why can't-we-just-act-like-adults, face. In that scenario, Ishwari was playing the bridge between two extremes, Buadadi and Sona. Here, it is Sona's turn to take up the mantle. With Elena as a foil, I wouldn't be surprised if the effects of Sona's gradual effort, and her rightful place in the family, are thrown into high relief.

Originally posted by: Shaavi



I think the lamp in the aarti thaali going off and Sonakshi relighting it is special significance. Once that attraction between Vickky and Eleena subsides, they will be in trouble. It will be Sonakshi who will help them at that time and show them the right path including GKB...


Loved your analysis as well, and the spot-on references you made to Lydia and Wickam yesterday! 😉


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Samanalyse

I don't think you are over-analysing at all. In fact, if you think back, their shared experience of being overshadowed by Sona and Dev respectively, was the first thing that broke the ice for Elena and Vicky's friendship, and the first genuine conversation Elena allowed. The resentment they share for their goody-two-shoes cousins, to whom they were always compared, is the foundation of their relationship. So I think what you have written about Vicky applies to Elena as well. She wanted what Sona has: the respect she gets as an adult in the family, her unlikely, tumultuous love story, and her perceived fairytale ending.

But what both of these immature kids are missing is the work that Dev and Sona put into what they have, both as individuals and together. If the Boses take Sona seriously, and respect her, it is because she has taken the entire financial burden of the family on her shoulders both before and after marriage, and protects her relationships fiercely. Long before Bijoy stormed in with his "bhatija" strategy, she had taken care of the aunty issue, making her stance clear to both Dev and Ishwari, and defended Asha's feelings. Saurabh's unemployment was a huge concern for the family, but she swooped in and found a solution that allowed him to pursue the kind of work he is interested in, without hurting his pride. And while her love story may have looked glamourous to Elena, only Sona and Dev know what they have gone through to be together today.

That's why the room thing didn't bother me that much (even though the physical reality of it is quite gross). Like Dev used to say when people warned him about losses in his business: I built this step by step and if need be, I can do it again. That confidence and calm that comes with knowing the hard work you have put in is precisely what sets Sona and Dev's relationship apart from Vicky and Elena, who have taken nothing but shortcuts. None of what they have now, including Dev and Sona's room, is something they built from the ground up, so they will never be able to get what they want out of it.

Honestly, I loved today's episode because Sona and Dev had the last laugh, literally😆Once their anger cooled, they were like "sure, why not? Pass the popcorn!"Elena and Vicky have already written their own punishment into their future. Elena -- photographer, literature-lover, and social butterfly -- has bound herself to Vicky -- entitled, undereducated, barely employed, monolingual sexist. That ridiculousness of their relationship was visible even in their supposedly lovey-dovey interaction today. Everyone is making these false equivalencies between the two couples but time will show how different they really are. Vicky and Elena need not only what is given to them, but what isn't rightfully theirs in order to be happy. Sona and Dev, in between all the interruptions, with people constantly throwing water on their romance (couldn't resist!), find ways to be happy with each other.



I always in awe with ur writing. .I felt elated to see ur reply on my post..thank u so much..
As usual superbly written..
Yes it happens in real life that too in many of our lives. .
The goodness and success of our siblings some time overshadowed our hardwork and capabilities.

Once again KRPKAB proved how beautifully yet subtly they tried to picturize reality. .
Thank u once again for making my post complete ..
👏 👏
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I don't believe you are over analysing at all and I completely agree with you. Chalk and cheese do not begin to define the difference between Dev-Vicky, Sona-Elena ...

Just to provide a diffevent analogy that isn't already done and dusted...Dev and Vicky are like two neighbouring nations.. Dev is like the hegemony in the region (say India in South Asia, China in Asia or US in the west etc) and Vicky is like one of the smaller nations in the same region where Dev is the hegemony.

The problems with politics in smaller nations is that every discussion related to their own sovereign country will feature the stance of the the bigger nation, approval of the bigger nation and from time to time financial/economic help from the big brother in the region. Basically, their existence depends on the decisions taken by the big brother.

Vicky is the same. His survival depends on Dev. Vikki is minuscule (almost a nobody, if it wasn't for mamaji who helped Dixits in their time of need) in the larger picture for Dev. I feel it is cheapening at some level to compare Vicky with Dev ... actually at various levels. Excluding the recent episodes (where Dev backtracked on calling Asha Ma,, ditching on Sona's birthday and the following incidents), Dev Dixit is a loving, emotional, responsible son, brother, nephew, son-in-law and the most amazing lover and sweet and hot husband.)
I am not condoning Dev's mistakes. His mistakes are his learning curve. And so are Sona's.

But Vikki and Elena are not even the palest version of Dev-Sona. To put it bluntly...they are wannabe Dev-Sona, seeking a love story for themselves that isn't as deep, selfless and pure.

As for Dev and Sona, their love for one another is so pure and complete that nothing dampens it. Not Vikki nor Neha. They are too good!

P.S - Barring the last month when the CVs butchered Dev's character, I wouldn't call Dev spineless and I wouldn't give Vikki's spine for standing up to his mother too much significance". Because Vikki's spine is right now resting on Dev's bed and only because he manipulated the situation like the cheat/theif/ he is.


Edited by SandyAquarius - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shaavi



Your analysis is on the dot.. From the beginning, Vickky has wanted what Dev has without putting the effort. He thinks he can take shortcut and by lies get what Dev has. He thinks it will make him a "bada aadmi".

In Mahabharatha, there is a quote -- "Dharmo rakshati rakhshitaha". It means that those who protect the dharma, dharma will protect them. It is true ... The karma works and based on the things we do, it either becomes blessings or curses in disguise. Dev and Sonakshi are protected by this karma. Hence they are truly happy.😊

Vickky might swindle Dev even more and Elena might not correct Vickky and all thosee bad things can happen. But Dev has the brains to gain those back, Vickky has none. Right now Vickky has started to cut the branch he is sitting on without really thinking of the consequences. He thinks that no one will be able to figure out his plans and actions. That he will get away all the time. But life does not happen that way. It always comes back and when it does, you better watch out...

I think the lamp in the aarti thaali going off and Sonakshi relighting it is special significance. Once that attraction between Vickky and Eleena subsides, they will be in trouble. It will be Sonakshi who will help them at that time and show them the right path including GKB...

Looking forward to seeing the story unfold...





Bang on 👏 👏

""those who protect the dharma, dharma will protect them. "" -apt super apt quote..
Yes sona relighting lamp is superb promo like how will their relationship will work & what will be sona's part in that..


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: gemini54

<font size="2" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" color="#000099">Beautiful Post👏
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<font size="2" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" color="#000066">My two cents worth. I think the creatives are trying to showcase Selfishness versus Selflessness.</font>

<font size="2" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" color="#000066">Here we have two couples Dev and Sona who are Selfless they believe others happiness are more important than theirs and then we have Elena and Vicky the Selfish couple who do not care for anybody and feel that they are important than others.</font>

<font size="2" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" color="#000066">When the story of Vicky and Elena emerged I was not sure where the creatives were going with it, but I think I understand now maybe it is to show the stark differences between the two couples even though Sona and Elena may have been brought up the same way and Vicky and Dev to some extent the same both coddled by their mothers.</font>

<font color="#000066"><font size="2" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif">But the differences are, in the case of Dev he lets his mother make the decisions because of his deep love and respect and almost reverence to her but Vicky though is pampered by his mother just uses her.</font>Elena and Sona had the same loving family in the Bose's but one took the selfish route to find her happiness and Sona took the selfless route.</font>

<font color="#000066"><font size="2" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif">I think in this journey of contrasts though Dev and Sona may face a lot of issues but will come out stronger and Elena and Vicky marriage may crumble.</font>And the lesson that Dev and Sona may learn is Life can't be lived dualistically they have to also watch out for themselves in order to get balance a little bit of selfishness is also necessary .</font>



Thank u dear. .
Ur reply is morrreee beautiful than my post.. 👏
Yes honestly speaking I too wondered why they bring this Vicky -Elena track when already many tracks r opened ¬ dealt with solutions. .

But today I feel they paving way for this from the start. .not included abruptly to add spice..
I once again want to appreciate them for the different yet intriguing approach. .

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: SandyAquarius

I don't believe you are over analysing at all and I completely agree with you.Chalk and cheese do not begin to define the difference between Dev-Vicky, Sona-Elena ...


Just to provide a diffevent analogy that isn't already done and dusted...Dev and Vicky are like two neighbouring nations.. Dev is like the hegemony in the region (say India in South Asia, China in Asia or US in the west etc) and Vicky is like one of the smaller nations in the same region where Dev is the hegemony.

The problems with politics in smaller nations is that every discussion related to their own sovereign country will feature the stance of the the bigger nation, approval of the bigger nation and from time to time financial/economic help from the big brother in the region.

Vicky is the same. He is minuscule (almost a nobody, if it wasn't for mamaji who helped Dixits in their time of need) in the larger picture for Dev. I feel it is cheapening at some level to compare Vicky with Dev ... actually at various levels. Excluding the recent episodes (where Dev backtracked on calling Asha Ma,, ditching on Sona's birthday and the following incidents), Dev Dixit is a loving, emotional, responsible son, brother, nephew, son-in-law and the most amazing lover and sweet and hot husband.)
I am not condoning Dev's mistakes. His mistakes are his learning curve. And so are Sona's.

But Vikki and Elena are not even the palest version of Dev-Sona. To put it bluntly...they are wanna be Dev-Sona, seeking a love story for themselves that isn't as deep, selfless and pure.

As for Dev and Sona, their love for one another is so pure and complete that nothing dampens it. Not Vikki nor Neha. They are too good!

P.S - Barring the last month when the CVs butchered Dev's character, I wouldn't call Dev spineless and I wouldn't give Vikki's spine for standing up to his mother too much significance". Because Vikki's spine is right now resting on Dev's bed and only because he manipulated the situation like the cheat/theif/ he is.






Superb. .awesomely superb. ..
Vicky-Elena r not even the palest version of dev-sona..

These words quench my soul&heart as an ardent Devakshi fan..
Yeah aptly said..
Shaheer himself said "dev is not a hero..he is not an inspirational character too..but he is a real man whom we can meet in our day today life.."
He is doing mistakes and learning from that ..same applies to sona too..


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Samanalyse

I'm probably going to get hit across the head for suggesting this, but the expression on Sona's face when she re-lit that lamp reminded me so much of Ishwari's reaction


Thankfully it didn't remind me of Ish but what struck me was that Sona will follow Asha's advise of supporting Elena n taking care of her even though Sona is not happy with Elena. When Elena thanks Sona n hugs her n says U r always with me, there is a hesitation in Sona to hug her back n she didn't assure Elena.

So Sona wud try to help Elena in adjusting to the new family, try to be ideal bahu, cooking, serving, respecting elders etc etc. which offcourse Elena wudnt do it n Sona wud cover for her till the time one day Sona wud totally give up on Elena.

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