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preethik

@preethik

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Posted: 8 years ago

#11

In fact more than ish I was pissed with Sona today. I mean who ask the prospective sil if he is having an affair without any proof! On top you have Dev saying she did the right thing. I mean he supporting by telling his relatives not to shout at her is ok with me . But saying she did the right thing! Does he have brains or what.

In India esparranged marriages one has to tread carefully. Sona sulked throughout dinner & then did the most idiotic thing.

I would have preferred it if Dev had them investigated but now

Though Ayan family does look fishy.

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...MonaCo...

@...MonaCo...

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Posted: 8 years ago

#12

Brilliant post. I agree that now the screenplay has moved from showing mother-son-dil relationship dynamics to one where the dil is always right. This is poorly written to fan Ishwari's insecurities against Sona. For once, I would have really liked if they showed a realistic take of this dynamic. A mother who single handledly suffered so much (including sexual abuse perhaps, or attempted), to raise her kids Ishwari may be backdated but is definitely not stupid. It would be nice to show how sometimes she is right and her experience wins too. But they have made this about Ishwari's insecurities. Rather than the relationship dynamics. In any love marriage or for that matter any marriage, it is only natural for the mother to feel less important and insecure, so why not show the natural adaptation of two people - both Sona and Ishwari who love the same man. Importance of both the relationships is prime. Sona cares for Ishwari, but Ishwari craves respect, and she is demanding, just like Bijoy. Sona was such a giver with Bijoy and Dada, even when they were wrong... I am not saying she should put up with Ishwari, but what was the harm in showing Ishwari as a less educated but a very wise woman, with some insecurities about her son, instead of showing her full of herself, wrong, untrusting, easily manipulated and what not. If you see earlier screenplay, Dev was very hands on (not the mamma's boy he is now made out to be), and Ishwari indeed very wise... She saw through GKBs nonsense but endured it because of "respect of rishta". But now all characters have been changed, to accomodate that Sona is always right, and Ishwari at fault. This is just poor screenplay like you pointed out.

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gemini54

@gemini54

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

#13

First of all thanks for commenting on my post and liking it. I felt maybe I was not clear in what I was trying to convey. But you rephrased it in a way that I wanted to express it.

Thanks

Originally posted by: ...MonaCo...
Brilliant post. I agree that now the screenplay has moved from showing mother-son-dil relationship dynamics to one where the dil is always right. This is poorly written to fan Ishwari's insecurities against Sona. For once, I would have really liked if they showed a realistic take of this dynamic. A mother who single handledly suffered so much (including sexual abuse perhaps, or attempted), to raise her kids Ishwari may be backdated but is definitely not stupid. It would be nice to show how sometimes she is right and her experience wins too. But they have made this about Ishwari's insecurities. Rather than the relationship dynamics. In any love marriage or for that matter any marriage, it is only natural for the mother to feel less important and insecure, so why not show the natural adaptation of two people - both Sona and Ishwari who love the same man. Importance of both the relationships is prime. Sona cares for Ishwari, but Ishwari craves respect, and she is demanding, just like Bijoy. Sona was such a giver with Bijoy and Dada, even when they were wrong... I am not saying she should put up with Ishwari, but what was the harm in showing Ishwari as a less educated but a very wise woman, with some insecurities about her son, instead of showing her full of herself, wrong, untrusting, easily manipulated and what not. If you see earlier screenplay, Dev was very hands on (not the mamma's boy he is now made out to be), and Ishwari indeed very wise... She saw through GKBs nonsense but endured it because of "respect of rishta". But now all characters have been changed, to accomodate that Sona is always right, and Ishwari at fault. This is just poor screenplay like you pointed out.

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thedramaqueen

@thedramaqueen

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

#14

Golden words and exactly my gripe with the makers right now... The balancing act is missing

Originally posted by: ...MonaCo...
Brilliant post. I agree that now the screenplay has moved from showing mother-son-dil relationship dynamics to one where the dil is always right. This is poorly written to fan Ishwari's insecurities against Sona. For once, I would have really liked if they showed a realistic take of this dynamic. A mother who single handledly suffered so much (including sexual abuse perhaps, or attempted), to raise her kids Ishwari may be backdated but is definitely not stupid. It would be nice to show how sometimes she is right and her experience wins too. But they have made this about Ishwari's insecurities. Rather than the relationship dynamics. In any love marriage or for that matter any marriage, it is only natural for the mother to feel less important and insecure, so why not show the natural adaptation of two people - both Sona and Ishwari who love the same man. Importance of both the relationships is prime. Sona cares for Ishwari, but Ishwari craves respect, and she is demanding, just like Bijoy. Sona was such a giver with Bijoy and Dada, even when they were wrong... I am not saying she should put up with Ishwari, but what was the harm in showing Ishwari as a less educated but a very wise woman, with some insecurities about her son, instead of showing her full of herself, wrong, untrusting, easily manipulated and what not. If you see earlier screenplay, Dev was very hands on (not the mamma's boy he is now made out to be), and Ishwari indeed very wise... She saw through GKBs nonsense but endured it because of "respect of rishta". But now all characters have been changed, to accomodate that Sona is always right, and Ishwari at fault. This is just poor screenplay like you pointed out.

Edited by thedramaqueen - 8 years ago

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Shilky88

@Shilky88

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

#15

@Marriage is a lifelong commitment. We don't buy a car without investigating past accident report, owner/seller history etc. Yet when it comes to marriage, we have more trust in horoscope or word of mouth from the groom himself and hand over our daughter?

Let try to apply Selfish Ishwari's logic here!

if she wanna buy a car for herself.She will do all the possible investigation as it is for her own use.

when it comes to marriage of her daughters.

She is least concerned who they are getting married to as her ultimate motive is to get rid of them,,one by one.

Dont get confused if later,post marriage, she might be interested in doing some serious and genuine investigation for the groom/groom's family and meanwhile (this meanwhile could be never ending as well) Ria can stay in Dixit house.

Ria can stay in dixit house so that Ishu can use her to distance Dev from Sona.

I am sure,by then, Neha will be settled with some superr rich businessman like Dev so Ishwari will look for her replacement and who could be better than --Next in line Riya

Ye main nahi keh rahi hai..thinking from Ishwari's perspective

Originally posted by: tia.o
Ishwari's intention is not wrong. Her reaction is, in my opinion, wrong.
Until Sona came in, she was so used to being treated as the Goddess who can't do no wrong that the recent setbacks have made her desperate to be proven right.

But, here the point is not Ishwari.

Whether she is right or wrong to bring Ayan's proposal (she didn't bring the proposal, she considered it. Ayan's family brought the proposal to them) is moot point.

Here the point is not to take credit for who did right or wrong. The point is to make sure Riya is being married to a decent person.

This is not a love marriage where parents are left with no choice but to let their children decide. This is an arranged marriage.

Also, Riya is not Neha or Nikki who if in a difficult situation would give her in-laws and husband the boot and come back home. She is a shy, introvert girl who may never open her mouth even if she is mistreated.

Ishwari might be right and Ayan is a good person (although his reaction indicates otherwise). But can she afford to be wrong in such an important decision? Will she be able to forgive herself if Sonakshi turn out to be right and Riya's life is ruined because she didn't pay attention?

If anyone even if Kichu raises a concern based on something he saw, a family should investigate the person they are handing over their precious girl to specially since one of their daughters already suffered a marriage break up.

When a love marriage goes wrong, it's the couple's problem. When an arranged marriage goes wrong, then it is the family's fault. Because they didn't do their due diligence before giving their precious daughter.

If I have a son and my prospective daughter-in-law's family asks a million questions to me, my relatives, my employer etc. and I have nothing to hide, I will be very happy that they love their daughter enough to ensure that we are good people and worthy of taking her responsibility.

Marriage is a lifelong commitment. We don't buy a car without investigating past accident report, owner/seller history etc. Yet when it comes to marriage, we have more trust in horoscope or word of mouth from the groom himself and hand over our daughter?

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