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gemini54

@gemini54

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Posted: 8 years ago

Good Versus Evil is a dichotomy in religion, life, psychology etc but today I want to talk about Good and Evil each one of us has some good some evil

Today i am going to write a post on Easwari - 😉..Not the negative kind

As a mother in my opinion she has failed Neha and is obsessed with DEV...this all of us agree on.

But I want to talk about Riya's rishta that Easwari brought I for one believe she did bring that with good intentions. I strongly believe that everyone is not always wrong or always right if that were the case the world would be a boring place. In order to show Sona right in my opinion it is not necessary to show Easwari wrong .Each one of can be right and wrong in our own ways based on circumstances and right and wrong is also peoples perception of who we are

This story is about Easwari's insecurities, possessiveness etc but we should not forget that she is also a mother maybe not the ideal mother by any standards but still a mother the way they bring out her insecurities in this story should be only contained to her dynamics BETWEEN Sona and DEV..and not as it pertains to all of the family than it makes her always wrong and Sona in this case always right.

In my opinion if they wanted to show this Ayaan rishta as a mirror to Neha to understand that money is not everything then they could have asked mamiji or mama to bring the rishta there was no need for the Easwari angle. ( again this is just my POV)

Traditionally in order for the Hero in this case the heroine to look strong the villain need to be strong too..but since this story has been touted as a realistic take there need not be a clear villain or clear black just different shades of gray.

That is why some of us crib about Dev Dixit characterization because he is portrayed weak ( again just a POV)...this maybe cv's way to show Sona's relative strength but it causes a disconnect with his character

I heard that even the actress who plays Easwari ( she does it beautifully) is unhappy about this screenplay and as a mother I can empathize with her

Ending with a quote by MLK--one of my heroes

There is some good in the worst of us and some evil in the best of us. When we discover this, we are less prone to hate our enemies.

- Martin Luther King, Jr.

*****Edited**** Disclaimer looks like I may have misinterpreted Easwari's actions because I only read the WU..But I still stand by saying that showing that Easwari is always wrong is not good screen play. As a mother if I made a decision and someone questioned it my first reaction will always be defensive and that to me is human nature I may turn around and look at their POV but first it will always be defensive**************

This is just my opinion thoughts welcome..but no chappals after all it is friday😆

Edited by gemini54 - 8 years ago

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sona_naksh

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Posted: 8 years ago

Agree wid u

I feel if ayaan is not d right person n sona is to prove it ...den agaon it ll hurt ishwari's ego badly like dat cold shower issue ...dey r doing it on purpose to rise ishwari's insecurities to a level where dere can not b a mask ...but den it is for d sake of additional drama

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Posted: 8 years ago

If they hadn't brought that insecurity angle then Ishwari would be at least understandable. In arrange marriages this "khandaan" factor do work a lot. Ishwari must have done her level of inquiry about the family and guy but the way she was behaving with Sona was not done. If she has doubt then the guy can be rechecked na. But this insecurity angle and my decisions for my children are good thought process over shadowed everything. Without this winning or losing game also this track could have been handled. Ishwari was bound to be angry on Sona after knowing that Khushi was Ayaan's cousin.

Every time to show other person right its not necessarily to demean the one.

And about Ayaan, i thought he would be shown Ranveer's contrast and Neha will realise. But no i feel that he has been brought to show Sona the "rescuer" of Dixits and uncover Ishwari's insecurities. TYPICAL is the word for it.

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randommusings

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Posted: 8 years ago

Ish reacted the way she did bcoz it was Sona who doubted Ayan . ..had it been anyone else...Ishwari like any normal mother wud hv tried to find more abt Ayan n his family. This is part of Ish's insecurity only. She doesnt trust Sona n is looking for opportunity to show Sona her place specially after khaada/ cold shower fiasco...n she hates that Sona challenges her decisions. Ish has been used to everyone accepting her decisions without raising any questions n everyone acknowledges that she is the best mother so anyone doubting her intentions or her decisions wud not be taken lightly.

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Shaavi

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Posted: 8 years ago

I don't think it is about showing Sonakshi correct or Ishwari wrong or anything like that. It is about Ishwari and her insecurities. When Ranveer's proposal came for Neha, Ishwari asks for Sonakshi's optionion as to what she thinks about Ranveer. I dont remember the episode, but she casually asks what she thinks of him and his proposal.

But now Ishwari does not want any opinion from Sonakshi. She just wants to prove that she knows better, that she is still the head of the house. She is so lost in ME and MYSELF...

Wish it were not so... i like Riya and nothing bad should happen to her...😊

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pkbdas61

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Posted: 8 years ago

After seeing today's episode, I can only take off from your last line and say - thank GOD, it's Friday! I need a two day break from the negativity that was shown in the show and the kind of humiliation that is flung at Sona!

I just cannot empathize with Ishwari anymore.. like someone posted in another thread, it is not mamta but ego that is doing the talking! For everything that Sona says and does, Ishwari must say something... cannot take it anymore...

Anyway, good luck to those who want to take time and comment about Ishwari. She is beyond me now! Whenever Ishwari comes on screen, I just look the other way... so whether it is viewing or reading about Ishwari, I feel it is not worth the time.

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gemini54

@gemini54

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Posted: 8 years ago

Thanks everyone who is fed up of Easwari taking time to read my post😆. I had to put a disclaimer in my post that what i wrote is based on WU maybe watching it was too painful.

Still I do believe that not everyone is right or wrong everytime

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Tia.0

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Posted: 8 years ago

Ishwari's intention is not wrong. Her reaction is, in my opinion, wrong.

Until Sona came in, she was so used to being treated as the Goddess who can't do no wrong that the recent setbacks have made her desperate to be proven right.

But, here the point is not Ishwari.

Whether she is right or wrong to bring Ayan's proposal (she didn't bring the proposal, she considered it. Ayan's family brought the proposal to them) is moot point.

Here the point is not to take credit for who did right or wrong. The point is to make sure Riya is being married to a decent person.

This is not a love marriage where parents are left with no choice but to let their children decide. This is an arranged marriage.

Also, Riya is not Neha or Nikki who if in a difficult situation would give her in-laws and husband the boot and come back home. She is a shy, introvert girl who may never open her mouth even if she is mistreated.

Ishwari might be right and Ayan is a good person (although his reaction indicates otherwise). But can she afford to be wrong in such an important decision? Will she be able to forgive herself if Sonakshi turn out to be right and Riya's life is ruined because she didn't pay attention?

If anyone even if Kichu raises a concern based on something he saw, a family should investigate the person they are handing over their precious girl to specially since one of their daughters already suffered a marriage break up.

When a love marriage goes wrong, it's the couple's problem. When an arranged marriage goes wrong, then it is the family's fault. Because they didn't do their due diligence before giving their precious daughter.

If I have a son and my prospective daughter-in-law's family asks a million questions to me, my relatives, my employer etc. and I have nothing to hide, I will be very happy that they love their daughter enough to ensure that we are good people and worthy of taking her responsibility.

Marriage is a lifelong commitment. We don't buy a car without investigating past accident report, owner/seller history etc. Yet when it comes to marriage, we have more trust in horoscope or word of mouth from the groom himself and hand over our daughter?

Edited by tia.o - 8 years ago

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gemini54

@gemini54

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Posted: 8 years ago

Thanks Tia for not throwing something at me. I understand that marriage is a lifelong commitment and if there is an iota of doubt it is best to check it out. What I am just trying to say is there was not need for the Easwari angle in this just my POV and if she snapped at Sona that is also human nature we do act defensive when our decisions are questioned atleast at first then after we take a moment we do make efforts to understand the other POV.

My only gripe in this is that this is sloppy screenplay to bring out her insecurities they could have done it differently and maybe more subtly but of course subtelty does not seem to be the creatives forte so I am out of luck.

TGIF

Originally posted by: tia.o
Ishwari's intention is not wrong. Her reaction is, in my opinion, wrong.
Until Sona came in, she was so used to being treated as the Goddess who can't do no wrong that the recent setbacks have made her desperate to be proven right.

But, here the point is not Ishwari.

Whether she is right or wrong to bring Ayan's proposal (she didn't bring the proposal, she considered it. Ayan's family brought the proposal to them) is moot point.

Here the point is not to take credit for who did right or wrong. The point is to make sure Riya is being married to a decent person.

This is not a love marriage where parents are left with no choice but to let their children decide. This is an arranged marriage.

Also, Riya is not Neha or Nikki who if in a difficult situation would give her in-laws and husband the boot and come back home. She is a shy, introvert girl who may never open her mouth even if she is mistreated.

Ishwari might be right and Ayan is a good person (although his reaction indicates otherwise). But can she afford to be wrong in such an important decision? Will she be able to forgive herself if Sonakshi turn out to be right and Riya's life is ruined because she didn't pay attention?

If anyone even if Kichu raises a concern based on something he saw, a family should investigate the person they are handing over their precious girl to specially since one of their daughters already suffered a marriage break up.

When a love marriage goes wrong, it's the couple's problem. When an arranged marriage goes wrong, then it is the family's fault. Because they didn't do their due diligence before giving their precious daughter.

If I have a son and my prospective daughter-in-law's family asks a million questions to me, my relatives, my employer etc. and I have nothing to hide, I will be very happy that they love their daughter enough to ensure that we are good people and worthy of taking her responsibility.

Marriage is a lifelong commitment. We don't buy a car without investigating past accident report, owner/seller history etc. Yet when it comes to marriage, we have more trust in horoscope or word of mouth from the groom himself and hand over our daughter?

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Tia.0

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Posted: 8 years ago

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Oh I never throw anything at people who make their point respectfully. Lol... You have full right to your opinion. It doesn't matter if anyone agrees or not.

I am not blaming Ishwari for being defensive. All I want to know is had Dev or Mamaji raised this concern instead of Sonakshi if she would be as defensive or she will be more inclined to listen. If I have to guess, she will be more inclined to listen.

But in her mind Sonakshi is enemy and everything she says, whether it is a valid point or not, her reaction is always to go against it.

Until this mentality changes, I am afraid, Sonakshi will continue to be insulted in that family.

I am pretty sure that if Dev hadn't supported Sonakshi, she won't have even let Sonakshi open her mouth.

But yes, TGIF... I can only take so much of her. Even written update is draining my energy.

But on a positive note, I won two tickets to next year's Shakespeare festival in Stratford today by draw through my volunteering. So woo hoo... Best Day Ever!!!

Originally posted by: gemini54
Thanks Tia for not throwing something at me. I understand that marriage is a lifelong commitment and if there is an iota of doubt it is best to check it out. What I am just trying to say is there was not need for the Easwari angle in this just my POV and if she snapped at Sona that is also human nature we do act defensive when our decisions are questioned atleast at first then after we take a moment we do make efforts to understand the other POV.

My only gripe in this is that this is sloppy screenplay to bring out her insecurities they could have done it differently and maybe more subtly but of course subtelty does not seem to be the creatives forte so I am out of luck.

TGIF

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