Loved Ishwaris speech - parts of it

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Posted: 8 years ago
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I just loved Ishwari's speech..it is so beautiful..I just heard the speech and did not actually watch the scene... but loved every dialogue and could understand mother's sentiment.
I agree i used to have different interests before my son was born. after that all i wanted was to be my kids mom. always thinking about the kid - i didnt even want to go out for a couple of hours leaving him with my parents.
Even if i went out , i used to constantly check on what he is doing etc.. so the mom's world kind of changes after kids. it is not that men dont feel or are worried but moms feeling is very different.
Having a kid will expose a mom or dad to new set of emotions and feeling that one might not have experienced before .. extreme love, pride, protectiveness and yes sometimes frustration and anger too..

Ishwari very well described what a mother feels when the child is born and how she wants to be part of her child's life and keep making some contributions to the kid as long as she is alive.
So if this speech was given by any other mother, it would have been the best and meaningful scene. but Ishwari only said half of the story.. she just spoke from mom's pov .. how she wants to hold a place in the kids life.
But, in the show what she is doing is completely different... she is fighting for a part in Dev's life but she is pushing all the other relationships away while doing so.
She is not treating or loving all her kids equally - yes you may have a special place for your first kid but you cant totally ignore the rest..

If her speech applied to all her kids -- i would give her standing ovation and give her best mother in the world title.
in addition to being part of Dev's life, if she allows sona to create her own space in dev's life and this family... then that would have been awesome.

I guess these are the two departments where ishwari needs to improve - love and care for all kids equally, allow Dev to make/respect new relationships after marriage
I am hopeful CVs will do justice

Ps: i am not saying that becoming mom is the only thing that women should worry about or that they will be any less if they dont have kids.. But it does open up one to experience new set of emotions

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Could not even watch it completely. It just felt like some words...without genuine affection or unconditional love. Had Asha given the same speech...I might have shed some tears but Ish's speech felt more like a an attempt to score even. And whenever I hear Ish's lecture abt the unique bond she shares with Dev...my thoughts go to the poor sisters who watch their mother everyday showering love on their brother n ignoring their presence. Sorry but just cudnt handle that speech. But yes it was more tolerable compared to that poem.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Nice post...👏 👏
I am a mom too and I agree on most part, but do disagree on a couple of points. A woman when she becomes mom does change and has new emotions added for the kids. But she also will have her own identity too. I mean just because she is mom, does not mean a woman is no longer a wife, sister or daughter. She will also need to give similar spaces to other relations in that child's life.

A mom does not have to be physically involved in a child's life to feel part of their life. You can also be there emotionally, giving moral support and by giving them the necessary tools where in the child can make their life even when the parents are no longer there. Parents continue to live through the children long after they are gone. They will always be there...

Just my POV... Don't want to hurt anyone...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I feel the family hug was a symbolic one ...When Sona approached Dev and Ishwari while they were hugging .Dev did not hesitate to include her and even Ishwari did not feel uncomfortable.For me it meant Sona was accepted as a part of Dev's life but for Ishwari this change will not be easy to digest .She may accept Sona but it will take time for her to completely accept the changes brought by this new relation
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Posted: 8 years ago
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The speech would have been on point if

1. She didn't just kept Dev in the focal point and included her daughters as well. If she had said her identity is a mother - not just Dev Dixit's mother.

2. She didn't try to justify her intense obsessive-possessive behaviour as motherhood


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shaavi

Nice post...👏👏

I am a mom too and I agree on most part, but do disagree on a couple of points. A woman when she becomes mom does change and has new emotions added for the kids. But she also will have her own identity too. I mean just because she is mom, does not mean a woman is no longer a wife, sister or daughter. She will also need to give similar spaces to other relations in that child's life.

A mom does not have to be physically involved in a child's life to feel part of their life. You can also be there emotionally, giving moral support and by giving them the necessary tools where in the child can make their life even when the parents are no longer there. Parents continue to live through the children long after they are gone. They will always be there...

Just my POV... Don't want to hurt anyone...



Ofcourse the identity doesnt change but your priorities change for sure.. I will always put my kid on the top of the list and then husband, parents sisters brothers .. Top spot is taken (i guess for life).

My kid is just 5 yrs old but yes we do teach him to be independent .. We feel proud that he was able to do the task himself and at the same time a bit sad too that he is able to do it independently and doesnt need us anymore lol. Silly emotions .. I guess in ishwaris case the first emotion is non existent and second emotion takes over her completely causing her to panic..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Yes Even I got emotional listening to her ..and for a while I forgot Ishwari is saying all this..coz it was so well written ..all dialogs were heart touching..and Supriya ji did wonderful job their :..( no wonder Shaheer got emotional )

The only thing here I wanna say is that Ishwari saying it is what must have made it looks all fake and drama..but in that as well..today I understood Ish's POV in a different way..she has become much subtle..she isnt harsh or cunning that much now..

Also about her other kids..well..she mostly end up ignoring them..but today it was Dev's day so aaj toh Dev ko waise bhi importance milna tha..LOL

And coming to Sona..I can only feel things will improve for her from here..though Ish will not be ideal overnight..but slow changes will be visible I believe..Infact this Dev having fever sequence will too bring out some I assume..Sona too has started understanding the situation..she is realizing Ish and Dev ..and her behavior in today's episode gave that hint ..she needs to handle this duo differently inspite of the fact that Ish proved why Dev is mma's boy but I dont think this will stop Sona from mellowing down she will not stop now..

Also one lesson of Dev calling Asha mothr is learnt by Ish..I hope she understands how adding new rishtas wont decrease value of existing ones

I too have faith on Cvs..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I agree. Though it is not that a woman is complete only when she becomes a mother,
The sentiments she potrayed involved in a mother child connect is very true. I truly remembered my mom while it was going on and realised there are many things unsaid which came out in her words.
Guess that's what made Shaheer truly emotional. The feelings that a mother goes through, the minute she becomes a mother are inexplicable.

But the sad part is the possessiveness is strongly shown by Ishwari totally ignoring her other children. That's not done. The speech would have been really great if it was directed to all of her children. She should be happy that she got to experience the feeling of a mother not once but 4 times. But this is Ishwari we are talking about.

The minute she mentioned mumma's boy as an open taunt to sona my peace turned to turmoil. I was like give some breathing space to dev and sona. She can't still get over the fact that dev is a man now. He has his own personal responsibilities along with the family. True that she feels bad when she hears it out but an open taunt is not correct.

I think it's time Cv's take the redemption path than to start making the viewers give an 'enough of this' response to the otherwise golden relationship of a mother-child in general.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I agree ...wen a baby is born he changes d whole dimension of life ...esp a mother's life ...i wud have loved d speech if it was her heartfelt feelings on dev's bday ..but more dan feelings it was a justification and a taunt to sona ...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: dlavanya

I just loved Ishwari's speech..it is so beautiful..I just heard the speech and did not actually watch the scene... but loved every dialogue and could understand mother's sentiment.
I agree i used to have different interests before my son was born. after that all i wanted was to be my kids mom. always thinking about the kid - i didnt even want to go out for a couple of hours leaving him with my parents.
Even if i went out , i used to constantly check on what he is doing etc.. so the mom's world kind of changes after kids. it is not that men dont feel or are worried but moms feeling is very different.
Having a kid will expose a mom or dad to new set of emotions and feeling that one might not have experienced before .. extreme love, pride, protectiveness and yes sometimes frustration and anger too..

Ishwari very well described what a mother feels when the child is born and how she wants to be part of her child's life and keep making some contributions to the kid as long as she is alive.
So if this speech was given by any other mother, it would have been the best and meaningful scene. but Ishwari only said half of the story.. she just spoke from mom's pov .. how she wants to hold a place in the kids life.
But, in the show what she is doing is completely different... she is fighting for a part in Dev's life but she is pushing all the other relationships away while doing so.
She is not treating or loving all her kids equally - yes you may have a special place for your first kid but you cant totally ignore the rest..

If her speech applied to all her kids -- i would give her standing ovation and give her best mother in the world title.
in addition to being part of Dev's life, if she allows sona to create her own space in dev's life and this family... then that would have been awesome.

I guess these are the two departments where ishwari needs to improve - love and care for all kids equally, allow Dev to make/respect new relationships after marriage
I am hopeful CVs will do justice

Ps: i am not saying that becoming mom is the only thing that women should worry about or that they will be anyless if they dont have kids.. But it does open up one to experience new set of emotions


Sorry ! I have a different opinion !
1. I loved it when I became a didi .I still remember the day when I saw my little sibling for the first time in my life and my mom let me hold her. We shared toys, clothes,secrets, our room and everything in between. I remember how much we cried when I left for college.
2. After finishing college, I got married and what a wonderful feeling it was ! Loved my husband and thought he looked like every single movie hero. ( I don't know how is that possible LOL ). I now think that he looks like Dev in the first 100 episodes but no one else thinks that! This is the first and hopefully only time I became a wife and still cherish every moment of being a wife even after many years of being married.
3. Sometime during this wonderful journey, I had my baby. Oh what a wonderful feeling that is ! Loved loved loved being a mother and raising a 8 pound log who just knew how to eat ,poop and sleep all day to a wonderful human being that every one likes.
4. Several years later, I lost my father. It felt like I lost a part of me! although I didn't feel anything when my dad became my father because I was a baby, I felt it when I lost him.
5 My sister has infertility issues and they have given up on having their biological child. Her inlaws are totally fine with it and are very encouraging about her other qualities.


So the bottom line of my personal story is that, all the relationships that we have are different from each other and very unique and important in their own regard. How can one say that being a mom is the the most important thing in the world? I don't think that my kid can replace the feeling that I have when I miss my dad or I can ever tell her the kaand me and my sister have done when we were young. No one can replace the feelings that I have for my husband.

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