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Posted: 8 years ago
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Agree, being a mother introduces a women to new world, but it may not be true for all rite. Because of two points i am not able to fully accept the speech.

1. One is what you mentioned, Ishwari instead of focusing on herself and Dev, if she included all her kids then it would be so apt.
2. Next, is personally i can't agree with the fact that women is complete only when she becomes mother(i know this is been in society from very long time) but I didn't expect from CVs of this show to conclude such statement, felt its offending some women.

I really expected, a speech from Bijoy after Ish's speech..(i know it was not the right place to give counter).
But, wish to know Bijoy's POV as he is portrayed as best father in the show and being from Kolkata surely he may site Mother Theresa as an example for complete women. Wish CVs show that inspirational view too..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: tia.o

The speech would have been on point if


1. She didn't just kept Dev in the focal point and included her daughters as well. If she had said her identity is a mother - not just Dev Dixit's mother.

2. She didn't try to justify her intense obsessive-possessive behaviour as motherhood




The whole point of her speech today was

firstly to express how DEV is important for her and it was Dev's birthday not to forget.. so not bringing daughters in it was ok...
then what kind of bond she and Dev shares..why she tries to be part of Dev's life..why she wants to be part of his life..why Dev is dependent on her..why she needs his support..she kept HER feeling for DEV..in front of everyone..

Apparently it becomes possessiveness coz she doesn't draw lines to it..
She was placing her feelings in front of everyone..but intensity of them is different from any other mothr.



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Posted: 8 years ago
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Yes, it was Dev's birthday. But her speech was not just directed to Dev. By bringing up the point to mention "Mamma's boy" she did direct it to Sonakshi as well. She spoke a better poem the night before. That one was solely focused on Dev. This one wasn't.

But today she brought up a woman's respect comes from being a mother (seriously?), the only people who can understand motherhood are the ones who gave birth as in Ram and Kaushalya (Ram never differentiated between his mother, Kaikayee and Sumitra and Kaushalya never asked him to nor made everything a competition between her and Sita), her identity is Dev Dixit's mother (why not her identity is mother, period? She has three other children).

That was my problem with this speech vs. the speech from the night before.

Last night's speech was heart-felt, this one contrived and just a way to prove a point.

In fact, after last night's speech, there was absolutely no need to repeat telecast in front of an audience. So it seemed more of a show off.

Had she recited this poem here, but didn't recite it the night before, I'd have been emotional right now.

Originally posted by: sjain



The whole point of her speech today was

firstly to express how DEV is important for her and it was Dev's birthday not to forget.. so not bringing daughters in it was ok...
then what kind of bond she and Dev shares..why she tries to be part of Dev's life..why she wants to be part of his life..why Dev is dependent on her..why she needs his support..she kept HER feeling for DEV..in front of everyone..

Apparently it becomes possessiveness coz she doesn't draw lines to it..
She was placing her feelings in front of everyone..but intensity of them is different from any other mothr.



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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: yyy

I feel the family hug was a symbolic one ...When Sona approached Dev and Ishwari while they were hugging .Dev did not hesitate to include her and even Ishwari did not feel uncomfortable.For me it meant Sona was accepted as a part of Dev's life but for Ishwari this change will not be easy to digest .She may accept Sona but it will take time for her to completely accept the changes brought by this new relation


Very well said
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: baijubavra


Sorry ! I have a different opinion !
1. I loved it when I became a didi .I still remember the day when I saw my little sibling for the first time in my life and my mom let me hold her. We shared toys, clothes,secrets, our room and everything in between. I remember how much we cried when I left for college.

I am sure i would have felt super happy when my brother was born but i was too young to remember... but we have a very good bond and yes we cried too when we were going to college and had to leave the other.

2. After finishing college, I got married and what a wonderful feeling it was ! Loved my husband and thought he looked like every single movie hero. ( I don't know how is that possible LOL ). I now think that he looks like Dev in the first 100 episodes but no one else thinks that! This is the first and hopefully only time I became a wife and still cherish every moment of being a wife even after many years of being married.
3. Sometime during this wonderful journey, I had my baby. Oh what a wonderful feeling that is ! Loved loved loved being a mother and raising a 8 pound log who just knew how to eat ,poop and sleep all day to a wonderful human being that every one likes.

4. Several years later, I lost my father. It felt like I lost a part of me! although I didn't feel anything when my dad became my father because I was a baby, I felt it when I lost him.

I lost my dad like 5 yrs before my kid was born and at that time i felt my world stopped .. i never experienced extreme grief before

5 My sister has infertility issues and they have given up on having their biological child. Her inlaws are totally fine with it and are very encouraging about her other qualities.
I myself have infertility issues and had my kid after trying for long time. Now battling the same issues again when trying to second kid... i totally understand the feeling..Like I said it is not end of the world if a woman doesnt want kids or if she cant have kids for what ever reason. It is a choice and motherhood should not dictate whether she deserves respect or not

So the bottom line of my personal story is that, all the relationships that we have are different from each other and very unique and important in their own regard. How can one say that being a mom is the the most important thing in the world? I don't think that my kid can replace the feeling that I have when I miss my dad or I can ever tell her the kaand me and my sister have done when we were young. No one can replace the feelings that I have for my husband.

all relationships hold their own place and all are important. one can not replace the other.. but there is always a priority set in your mind. the priorities keep changing through out the life and it doesnt mean that you dont value the other relationships. I am in a phase of my life where my kid tops the priority list.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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I was irritated by her speech.. Asha too is a mom, GKB too is a mom, Ayaan's mom was there too, Dadi was there too. What makes her so special as a mother? No mom behaves like that! The selection of timing too was in bad taste!
I wish they had given Asha too words to speak, then the difference would have been known, between class and crass!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rithu0203

Agree, being a mother introduces a women to new world, but it may not be true for all rite. Because of two points i am not able to fully accept the speech.


1. One is what you mentioned, Ishwari instead of focusing on herself and Dev, if she included all her kids then it would be so apt.
2. Next, is personally i can't agree with the fact that women is complete only when she becomes mother(i know this is been in society from very long time) but I didn't expect from CVs of this show to conclude such statement, felt its offending some women.

I really expected, a speech from Bijoy after Ish's speech..(i know it was not the right place to give counter).
But, wish to know Bijoy's POV as he is portrayed as best father in the show and being from Kolkata surely he may site Mother Theresa as an example for complete women. Wish CVs show that inspirational view too..



Well we all know Ishwari and her regressive thoughts - so i totally ignored that woman earning respect after becoming a mother... it is purely her POV...

Yes if the respect is earned for continuing human race if that one woman was last of the kind and by ensuring human race does not become extinct... yes may be in that terms i can accept her statement.

Othewise in regular society .. it is all just BS


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: pkbdas61

I was irritated by her speech.. Asha too is a mom, GKB too is a mom, Ayaan's mom was there too, Dadi was there too. What makes her so special as a mother? No mom behaves like that! The selection of timing too was in bad taste!

I wish they had given Asha too words to speak, then the difference would have been known, between class and crass!



I loved the speech from an average mom's view... i really did not enjoy it coming from ishwari.(thats why i said i didnt watch it but i just heard the speech).. especially when she discriminated among her 4 children..and she is literally pushing Dev to not make new relationships thinking that she will lose her spot if he does.

I guess she just wanted to taunt sona on the mamma's boy comment... but why infront of everyone .. i dont understand


Edited by dlavanya - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Contradictory views 😕
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Posted: 8 years ago
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she was basically trying to make both Dev and Sona guilty...

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