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lavanya

@dlavanya

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Posted: 8 years ago

#31

Originally posted by: rahulvats12

That's am saying that...yes he said that he don't want to see disappointment in her eyes...but why.
Because he have respect for her than anyone...I will not use word.that he scared but to see her mother hurt or disappoint, it makes him disappoint...
I really want to see journey of ishwari as good mother in law

why would respect cause him to hide stuff ... it is fear ... anyways. you keep you pov and i will keep mine

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lavanya

@dlavanya

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Posted: 8 years ago

#32

Originally posted by: SandyAquarium

Sorry to poke my nose but may I ask what it was that made Dev stop from having fun during the cake fight when Ishwari walks in? Love? respect? Fear? To my eye, it looked like fear. Fear of being caught while he was doing something childish, something that is unacceptable to Ishwari. Hiding his happiness is not what I call respect.

Dev is scared of his mother at various levels. He fears upsetting her. He fears crossing the boundaries she has set because from his perspective he doesn't want to hurt her...but the fact remains that fear is a big part of many of his actions when it comes to doing what is right by Ishwari, including his fear for his mother's life, which made him break up with Sona.

The examples are far too many to show that Dev fears his mother.

precisely .. why would any one hide happiness from mom beacuse he loves/respects her ? .. it all about fear of not meeting the expectations of his mom..

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mena_k

@mena_k

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

#33

Until Sona behaves like a lifeless furniture in Dixit house (like Nikki, Neha and Riya), Ishwari does not have a problem. The moment she realises Sona is married to Dev, Ishwari looses her mental balance. Accept it, she is crazy and needs some serious help.

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mena_k

@mena_k

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

#34

Originally posted by: rahulvats12

In 8 months...u may have seen manipulative or possessive mother but.u have seen also good mother and nice womam when she doesn't feel insecure... U also seen her to think good about sona or defended her from gkb when ishwari is in normal conditions.
But these changes u only observed when she is not in insecure mode.
That's why am saying, she have two different personality.

A individual having two different personality is a psychiatric problem and accepting this behaviour and condition of Ishwari is the first step in treating her.

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Sushma

@Sush2468

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Posted: 8 years ago

#35

I completely agree with you

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timbarucha83

@timbarucha83

Navigator

Posted: 8 years ago

#36

I am the silent reader on the forum but today I want to post my views. Your Question is that what I feel or think about Ishwari. my answer is from my point of view

She is a very complex character you cannot call her as a bad or you cannot say that she is a good.

She is complete gray. She has faced a lot of situations where she have to fight for her and her children s survival but I that process she had made some mistakes that she is totally baios some how she know Dev is more intelligent and he is have a capacity to take all of them out of there poority. so she completely give full attention on dev. for the time being lets consider of was the need of the time

that what she give more attention to dev but after when the things get better then at that time why she not give the proper attention to her rest of children. In this entire process she subconsciously

know she failed as a mother that why she want this assurance and 👏 from dev and all of the third party persons that she is a great mother and she is god.because some how she what to ensure herself that she is a good mother and this is required by a person when he or she itself know that this is not good but if someone say false thing again and again she can fool your self.

some how this is not possible with the help of neha. that why she is more connected to dev only because dev loves,respects what to protect his mother so he is fulfill her this wish that is the root cause of her passiveness. and insecurity.

Her another problem is that she some how feels that it is dev's life time responsibility to take care of the house hold she doesn't consider dev as a normal person can have his own identity. because she is having only one identity as dev's mother by which she get all the respect she wants. so the movement dev want some thing for his own she is having a problem.She loves to go to flashback and funny part is in flashback dev is only 8 years old and so she compare the every statement which 8 years dev is saying is applicable to 28 years dev. I must say she able to generate a businessman dev who is having a lot of money but who is totally unaware of human relationships there meaning and how important they are. that why is is so happy that now his son is not going to say asha as a ma but she don't understand that actually she and dev insulting an another mother.She loves give guilt trip to dev when dev try to come out of his past and lead himself a new life. some times I feel she had forgotten that is dev's mother but she acts like a chlild . eg . suppose if a small child is there and for teasing purpose if you say to a chlid that his mother is now my mother that chlid get angry and insure and starts crying same is applicable to her.

she is very selfish when it comes to power and her hold on dev .and to maintain that power and hold she can do any kind of manipulation. eg. some where she don't want to that sona should not say any thing to for any issue

because she have a fear that if sona is able to manage that issue more better than her then her position get lost. but this is most common problem for most of the MIL that they what there hold on there house they do not to retire. Sona is a toy which is require by the dev to have a full control on her. Like neha she is also very much materialist this point is get highlighted with the prenup. If she was relay interested in her chlidern's right then she should open about it but cheating or better word betraying his own son 😡 . and I don,t understand what should done by dev to give her confidence she is important to her by saying yes to all bad and wrong things of her.

She loves her god image so much that in that process she doen't care about her sone's image.

thats why at the breakup track very tactfully she shift the entire blame on dev, mamaji. now in ash ma's matter on dev. but my dear Ishwari you forced him to take this stand . She always love to play the game Dev sabse jada kisaka he . that's a different aspect she is playing this game alone there is no other side in this game😊😊. so to become a better MIL first she required to become first a better mother and then better MIL . and this journey will be started when she realized that she is having many flows and first she required to accept it and then rectify it. and for that a long way to go. and this is only possible with the help of dev . and for that dev required the help of sona and Bose orientation classes.

I want to say thank you to all of them who is reading my long replay

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rahulvats12

@rahulvats12

Dazzler

Posted: 8 years ago

#37

Originally posted by: SandyAquarium

Sorry to poke my nose but may I ask what it was that made Dev stop from having fun during the cake fight when Ishwari walks in? Love? respect? Fear? To my eye, it looked like fear. Fear of being caught while he was doing something childish, something that is unacceptable to Ishwari. Hiding his happiness is not what I call respect.

Dev is scared of his mother at various levels. He fears upsetting her. He fears crossing the boundaries she has set because from his perspective he doesn't want to hurt her...but the fact remains that fear is a big part of many of his actions when it comes to doing what is right by Ishwari, including his fear for his mother's life, which made him break up with Sona.

The examples are far too many to show that Dev fears his mother.

Can't say it's fear or not but he was surprised...actually he was not expecting her there...if u say he was scared,then everyone got scared there..that's why he paused even everyone...

It's not big issue we also sometimes when do such things and then suddenly any elder came there...we got shocked. To seem them suddenly and stops...it's sudden reaction of Dev and everyone...

Actually... U r talking about fear...then it's not that he fear from her...he respects her and that's why he feared to hurt his mother emotions

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rahulvats12

@rahulvats12

Dazzler

Posted: 8 years ago

#38

Originally posted by: dlavanya

precisely .. why would any one hide happiness from mom beacuse he loves/respects her ? .. it all about fear of not meeting the expectations of his mom..

It's fear about hurting the sentiment of her mom...if he doesn't love or respect her mom... Then he haven't any reason to fear

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rahulvats12

@rahulvats12

Dazzler

Posted: 8 years ago

#39

Originally posted by: mena_k
Until Sona behaves like a lifeless furniture in Dixit house (like Nikki, Neha and Riya), Ishwari does not have a problem. The moment she realises Sona is married to Dev, Ishwari looses her mental balance. Accept it, she is crazy and needs some serious help.

It's not about married...it's about when sona do anything which makes ishwari insecure or fear to lose his son...

She respect her when she is normal... Until she got insecure due to any reason..

And she didn't have problems with sona...anyone who she thinks that is trying to change dev or she thinks that dev will forget her Mom due to that particular person... She got insecure from that person but only for short time.

Once she get normal and confident that dev will not effect by that person... She doesn't have any problem..

She is not crazy... She is insecure and scared person who really need help but that help she.can only get by dev if dev will understand her problem... Maybe sona also

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Hari73

@Hari73

Rocker

Posted: 8 years ago

#40

Originally posted by: rahulvats12

In 8 months...u may have seen manipulative or possessive mother but.u have seen also good mother and nice womam when she doesn't feel insecure... U also seen her to think good about sona or defended her from gkb when ishwari is in normal conditions.
But these changes u only observed when she is not in insecure mode.
That's why am saying, she have two different personality.

Sorry rahul, as mother she failed big time. mother duty is not just feed children and it's her responsibility to make her every child independent and understand write or wrong. also she never care for children feeling. All she wants Is her feeling and children should behave according to her. so seeing good mother in her completely let down.

Coming to defending sona. .It is just to show gkb that she is good human being. she has such a power in one word she can stop gkb bad mouthing against sona. is it happened. . no..so why do you think she likes sona. may be before marriage she must have liked her. I swear she is bearing her just for Dev. she has no liking of even 1%, though her health has improved bcoz of her.

According to me she is not even good human being who is not even greatful to sona.

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