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Posted: 8 years ago
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I am a little less frustrated because I fast forwarded Ishwari scenes today.I can only take so much of her repeated tum nahi samjhogi and never ending whines about her miserable life🄱But her" Bure waqt humare saathi" commentšŸ˜•Bura waqt saathi hai jise peeche nahi chod sakte and what about acha waqt?Acha waqt dushman hai kya jise chodne me maza aata hai?Her reasons and justifications are baffling.How can she compensate for her lack of love towards Neha by giving in to her every whim or demand?That too just to get rid of her own guilt.The love and concern is still missing and overpowered by guilt.
And by doing this she is only disabling Neha.She is basically encouraging Neha to act out.

Ranveer's reaction towards Sona was unexpectedšŸ¤”But I am glad Dev stood up for her.Now I am waiting to see him stand up for her even when it comes to GKB or Ishwari.One thing I am liking these days is that instead of shouting or blaming or ignoring Sonakshi after such scenes,he is understanding her.It was also good to see Sona expressing how she felt in the end.Dev needed to realise that she is still not being considered family,not only by others but also by him when he asks her to stay out of Neha's issue.
The best advice by Sona-Dixits need a Bose orientation program😃


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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Rose

Aren't you having your exams now? šŸ¤“

Beautiful post by the way šŸ˜†
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: gmgi

@Rose

Aren't you having your exams now? šŸ¤“

Beautiful post by the way šŸ˜†

Starting from 9th Nov.I am stalking the forum in my study breakšŸ˜†No posts from me during exams šŸ˜‰
Btw I love reading your views on the episodes as well.

Edited by rose4ever - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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All the best for your exam, Rose.

Honestly Rose, my pet peeve about Dev going mute in front of his family and indirectly encouraging them to continue to call Sona names will always be there. But at least Dev didn't try to feed Sona the bull that she is actually treated like part of his family.

That's a big step in the right direction. Now that he agrees that Sona is not treated as a family member should be treated, he can now work on fixing that.

And yes, I had to fast forward Ishwari portion too because whining is so irritating to hear.

Here's my question, why whine in front of the person whom you asked not to interfere. Don't share your problem if you don't want interference. Simple.

Ishwari said that she wants to let Neha choose her life the way she wants to live, then why did you even let Dev go to Ranveer? Why didn't you ask him not to go anywhere and gave him the same bull?

On top of that, she said that Sona didn't listen to her husband. And Neha is so obedient of her husband. And Radha? She is listening to her husband all the time. Bloody hypocrite.

Originally posted by: rose4ever

I am a little less frustrated because I fast forwarded Ishwari scenes today.I can only take so much of her repeated tum nahi samjhogi and never ending whines about her miserable life🄱But her" Bure waqt humare saathi" commentšŸ˜•Bura waqt saathi hai jise peeche nahi chod sakte and what about acha waqt?Acha waqt dushman hai kya jise chodne me maza aata hai?Her reasons and justifications are baffling.How can she compensate for her lack of love towards Neha by giving in to her every whim or demand?That too just to get rid of her own guilt.The love and concern is still missing and overpowered by guilt.

And by doing this she is only disabling Neha.She is basically encouraging Neha to act out.

Ranveer's reaction towards Sona was unexpectedšŸ¤”But I am glad Dev stood up for her.Now I am waiting to see him stand up for her even when it comes to GKB or Ishwari.One thing I am liking these days is that instead of shouting or blaming or ignoring Sonakshi after such scenes,he is understanding her.It was also good to see Sona expressing how she felt in the end.Dev needed to realise that she is still not being considered family,not only by others but also by him when he asks her to stay out of Neha's issue.
The best advice by Sona-Dixits need a Bose orientation program😃


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Posted: 8 years ago
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I dint feel Ranveer did anything wrong and from quiet few days I have been speaking on his behalf only as I feel he is the only one who is getting badly suffered due to all this.

His married life is at stake and everybody in Dixit house including Sona is doing what they think is right.

He is ought to get confused and infuriated when he hears different things from every individual of Dixit family.

To an outside like Ranveer.. Be it Sona,,Dev or Ishwari -Each and every individual represents Dixit family as a whole. They all must come to a term before one goes out and act as a spoke person from Dixits to talk on this matter.

Neha-send him divorces.

Dev is planning to send Lawyers

and then Sona shows up at Ranveer's home with a different POV altogether.

If Ranveer is hearing different stories and getting different messages from Dixit family then clearly it is fault of Dixits as they are disorganized as a family and are not aligned with each other.

Ranveer's reaction is totally justified today as he has no personal equation with Sona so Sona coming and talking to his family soon after her husband's authoritative announcement of taking matter to the court is little weird.

Had I or you been at Ranveer's place ,we would have thought the same thing that there is anything wrong between Dev and Sona. Ranveer doesn't know Sona personally and whatever interaction he had with Sona was limited through Dev/Neha/Ishwari only so Sona doing anything that contradicts Dev will definitely bewilder and irk Ranveer.

His marriage is on the verge of divorce when he is not at all at fault. On the top of that Dixits are pressing all sorts of buttons to misguide him as to what exactly they want .what else can we expect from him?

He is bound to think that Dixits are misleading him by playing a game. His reactions are apparent outcomes of his disoriented state cause by Dixits who are pushing him in all directions.

Glad that his family is sorted out and he speaks on everyone's behalf. Family goals !

I cannot agree more on whatever he said today. He is keeping his family away from all this and wanting same from Dixits(to not involve his family) as they all know what they are doing and they know what they are doing is right as well.

Ranveer's Bhabhi dint sound any different from what Ranveer thinks so there is absolutely no need to skip Ranveer and approach his family instead. Ranveer is wise and prudent enough to decide for himself. This is how a family head ,a primary moneygiver and a primary caregiver should be.

By that I dint mean that He is being a dictator for his family but is avoiding any sort of confusions that might occur due to many heads meet.

I have no hopes from Ishwari as she is altogether on a different mission to strike off Sona unreasonably from everything but Don't you think Sona should at least take her husband in confidence for her genuine efforts before she is taking a step against him on his sister's matter?

After all it is not just about Neha and Ranveer now. It is more about Dev and Sona speaking same language by virtue of being life partners.

Sona knows Neha very well that she can do anything at the spur- of- the- moment so she must be very careful before doing anything even if she thinks what she is doing is right.

How Neha perceives Sona helping her?

She thinks Sona is eager to send her away from Dixit house and she is extremely hurt ,upset and vocal about it. Now if she takes any big step due to this like making a final decision for separation or even a suicide attempt.

Then Will Sona be ready to take a lifelong guilt of the reason behind Neha doing so?

I have no doubt on Sona's sensibility and maturity to handle this situation but knowing that responses of people are outrageous and insensible to your actions then Sona can at least make her moves with Dev backing her up.

little different from yours but Just My POV😃

Edited by Shilky88 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: tia.o

All the best for your exam, Rose.
Thank you😊

Honestly Rose, my pet peeve about Dev going mute in front of his family and indirectly encouraging them to continue to call Sona names will always be there.
Same here
But at least Dev didn't try to feed Sona the bull that she is actually treated like part of his family.
That's a big step in the right direction. Now that he agrees that Sona is not treated as a family member should be treated, he can now work on fixing that.
And yes, I had to fast forward Ishwari portion too because whining is so irritating to hear.

Here's my question, why whine in front of the person whom you asked not to interfere. Don't share your problem if you don't want interference. Simple.
True.And how could you expect a person to not interfere when their life is being affected by it so much.

Ishwari said that she wants to let Neha choose her life the way she wants to live, then why did you even let Dev go to Ranveer? Why didn't you ask him not to go anywhere and gave him the same bull?
Her Raja Beta is always right except when he listens to Sona.

On top of that, she said that Sona didn't listen to her husband. And Neha is so obedient of her husband. And Radha? She is listening to her husband all the time. Bloody hypocrite.
Hypocrisy,Double Standards,Self-obsession...the list is endless.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Gr8 post Tia.
I really hope dev takes a stand for sona against his family soon and cvs saves the best for last meaning they might have planned this for some big day.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Fair enough. Having a different opinion is totally fine in my post. Here's my take.

I have no doubt in mind that Ranveer is suffering. But when a marriage breaks it's never one person's fault. So it will be wrong to put the entire blame on Neha.

I agree with you that Ranveer is receiving mixed messages and he is probably confused. But it will be wrong to say that he did not have interaction with Sona or he only had interaction with Sona through Dev, Ishwari or Neha.

When Radha accused him of stealing, Sona defended him.

He was present at Sona's wedding and Sona was present at his.

When Neha came back and he came to Dixit house with Sona, she was the only one who defended his respect. He admired her so much that he wanted Neha to be like her.

He could not have asked Neha to be like neighbour's aunty whom he has passing acquaintance, could he?

In spite of all that he came to Dixit house to blast on Sona as if she has threatened his family. All Sona tried to do is to fix this marriage. He could have easily called Sona and said exactly what he said. If he really was so against confusing Dixits and paints Sona with the same brush, why bother coming into the same house to say what could be told over the phone.

And Ranveer can't keep his family out when he lives with them and he is getting a divorce.

When society asks his family questions would he go threaten everyone to keep his family out?

No. In my opinion, Ranveer's anger was justified, but his outburst at Sona wasn't.

Sona could have gone through Ranveer. But after Dev told her that Ranveer is egotist and stubborn and doesn't care about Neha, who would have gone to him?

If Ranveer and Sona's interaction was that much limited that Ranveer paints Sona with the same brush as Dixits, then how would Sona know Ranveer any better to approach him? Sona met Ranveer exactly the number of time Ranveer met Sona.

Now regarding Sona's interference. Sona could have taken Dev into confidence if Dev hadn't asked her to mind her own business. But it's hard to mind one's own business when a. the said business is crashing down under the same roof affecting one's business and b. all the whining, moping, crying is going on around you affecting your mood.

Sona could have very well minded her own business if she was in her honeymoon. After all that's exactly what she was doing earlier until Ishwari made it her own business.

About Neha taking a wrong step, if Neha truly loves Ranveer, then she might take a wrong step if her marriage breaks up. But if she doesn't and just wants to move on with her life, considering how much she loves luxury and material things, she won't take any wrong step.

Dev himself made it impossible to take him into confidence. If he had taken Sona into confidence, then that would have encouraged Sona into doing the same. But he first of all never discusses anything with Sona and then ask her to stay out yet expects her to be okay with whatever disruption this causes in her life. He can't have it both ways.

Either continue to live life as if nothing happened or help her fix the issue so that everyone can move on with their life.




Originally posted by: Shilky88

I dint feel Ranveer did anything wrong and from quiet few days I have been speaking on his behalf only as I feel he is the only one who is getting badly suffered due to all this.

His married life is at stake and everybody in Dixit house including Sona is doing what they think is right.

He is ought to get confused and infuriated when he hears different things from every individual of Dixit family.

To an outside like Ranveer.. Be it Sona,,Dev or Ishwari -Each and every individual represents Dixit family as a whole. They all must come to a term before one goes out and act as a spoke person from Dixits to talk on this matter.

Neha-send him divorces.

Dev is planning to send Lawyers

and then Sona shows up at Ranveer's home with a different POV altogether.

If Ranveer is hearing different stories and getting different messages from Dixit family then clearly it is fault of Dixits as they are disorganized as a family and are not aligned with each other.

Ranveer's reaction is totally justified today as he has no personal equation with Sona so Sona coming and talking to his family soon after her husband's authoritative announcement of taking matter to the court is little weird.

Had I or you been at Ranveer's place ,we would have thought the same thing that there is anything wrong between Dev and Sona. Ranveer doesn't know Sona personally and whatever interaction he had with Sona was limited through Dev/Neha/Ishwari only so Sona doing anything that contradicts Dev will definitely bewilder and irk Ranveer.

His marriage is on the verge of divorce when he is not at all at fault. On the top of that Dixits are pressing all sorts of buttons to misguide him as to what exactly they want .what else can we expect from him?

He is bound to think that Dixits are misleading him by playing a game. His reactions are apparent outcomes of his disoriented state cause by Dixits who are pushing him in all directions.

Glad that his family is sorted out and he speaks on everyone's behalf. Family goals !

I cannot agree more on whatever he said today. He is keeping his family away from all this and wanting same from Dixits(to not involve his family) as they all know what they are doing and they know what they are doing is right as well.

Ranveer's Bhabhi dint sound any different from what Ranveer thinks so there is absolutely no need to skip Ranveer and approach his family instead. Ranveer is wise and prudent enough to decide for himself. This is how a family head ,a primary moneygiver and a primary caregiver should be.

By that I dint mean that He is being a dictator for his family but is avoiding any sort of confusions that might occur due to many heads meet.

I have no hopes from Ishwari as she is altogether on a different mission to strike off Sona unreasonably from everything but Don't you think Sona should at least take her husband in confidence for her genuine efforts before she is taking a step against him on his sister's matter?

After all it is not just about Neha and Ranveer now. It is more about Dev and Sona speaking same language by virtue of being life partners.

Sona knows Neha very well that she can do anything at the spur- of- the- moment so she must be very careful before doing anything even if she thinks what she is doing is right.

How Neha perceives Sona helping her?

She thinks Sona is eager to send her away from Dixit house and she is extremely hurt ,upset and vocal about it. Now if she takes any big step due to this like making a final decision for separation or even a suicide attempt.

Then Will Sona be ready to take a lifelong guilt of the reason behind Neha doing so?

I have no doubt on Sona's sensibility and maturity to handle this situation but knowing that responses of people are outrageous and insensible to your actions then Sona can at least make her moves with Dev backing her up.

little different from yours but Just My POV😃

Edited by tia.o - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thanks. May be CVs are saving it for infertility reveal. But I hoped to see the bond sooner...

Originally posted by: poojak

Gr8 post Tia.

I really hope dev takes a stand for sona against his family soon and cvs saves the best for last meaning they might have planned this for some big day.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Totally true about Ishwari. Today's episode was quite quite irritating and I indeed felt I am watching a Star Plus or Colors drama šŸ¤”

To start with my favourite one - Dev. What a way to divert the topic when Ranveer told everyone SECOND time about his dhamki of lawyer šŸ‘. First time I felt why and how he must have been in top position in Business, quite a skill šŸ‘šŸ¼. No doubt Ranveer came down to Dixit Kaalkothri after Sona went to his home, but Ranveer seemed more frustrated about Dev's comments. And he wants to punish Ranveer ? ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME SELFISH Dev ? 😳 For what will you punish Ranveer ? For signing the acknowledgment paper when Postman gave him the Divorce Notice sent by Neha? For cancelling the booking of the flat so that his mother's operation can be done ? Or for being a man in front of Dev and Dixit Clan to show them the reality that Neha was no kid when she got married (like Dev is) ? Oh how did I forget, it doesn't take any reason for Dev to punish people - he did it with Sona before, he did with Rithwik and now Ranveer is his new prey šŸ‘šŸ¼. Because he is mad at Ranveer, he couldn't bear him insulting Sona, but trust him to put a cellotape on his mouth when his Godly mother and GKB do the same and even the younger Neha šŸ‘ Shame on such bedroom-lion šŸ‘ŽšŸ¼.


Now about Ranveer - I don't find his reactions wrong, he has got God-gifted family members who are against this divorce and rather want HIM to move out and are ever ready to adjust the expenses for the sake of the new bride. What shame does it feel for a lower-middle class man to abandon his family to fulfill the unfair demand of his newly wedded bride, even more so when it's a love-marriage. Unlike Dev, Ranveer truly has a reason to feel guilty of giving in to everything his in-laws (including his wife) ask him to do, be it accepting the new job by killing his self-respect and ideologies or now the divorce drama initiated by his better half. Of course any sane man would want to keep his family out of this and would be extremely frustrated if the inlaws come to talk to his family-member. Here we have to keep in mind that Ranveer does NOT want to keep this marriage, he has convinced himself with the idea of separation which is killing him too, he is a man who failed to understand even his wife (Neha proved him wrong in every aspect), so of course the contradicting behaviour of Dev and Sona has truly got him confused and agitated him further. Any sane person will behave likewise. He was furious over Dev's failed attempt and Sona's visit followed by Dev's dhamki indeed can be perceived as Dixit's way of dealing with this matter, how would Ranveer know that Dixits despite living under the same roof, themselves are as scattered entities as Neha and Ranveer are right now. Sona, being wife of a dumb guy like Dev, HAS to bear such insults from time to time since it's a lifetime joint partnership and her actions will be seen as part of Dixits' actions. Like I said yesterday, to people outside Dixits, she IS a Dixit, she can't term her actions from now on as Sonakshi Bose's attempt. So yeah, face it Sona !


And last but not the least - Sona. I am truly disappointed with her actions post marriage šŸ˜’. Honestly, I can't fathom her level of tolerance and so-called understanding (which is uncanny). GKB's language triggered no protest in her ? I can understand her silence on Ishwari-Dev-Neha's allegations, but Bichchhoo and Das Liya are like TOOO petty to even mention ! How I wish Baba were there to listen to this and reprimand Sona for allowing Dixits to walk all over her . Honestly people who don't have self-respect, don't get respect from me either 🄱. And about her non-stop tirelessly trying to make Neha-Ranveer's marriage work, honestly this is annoying me as well. Today was the heights of hurls thrown at her. So far Ishwari and Dev have spoken to her privately about not involving herself into this. Today everyone shouted out LOUD in the hall. Still Sona doesn't stop herself. Why God why ! 😔 Every time she is trying, failing and saying sorry. This is testing my patience, since I am MUCH against the TRYING part itself 😔. And what I didn't specifically like is - her considering Neha-Ranveer's decision of separation as an accidental outburst of anger. I want to tell Sona that she disappointed me MUCH when she put her self-respect lower than 'love' and agreed to marry Dev, she disappointed me much when she put the respect of her own parents lower than 'love' and ran away from her own engagement, she disappointed me much when she put the sense of right-wrong aside and wrong-did a guy for the sake of 'love', she is continuing to disappoint me when she takes all the abuses and misbehaviour from Dev and Dixits for the sake of 'love', but this LOVE might not be the MOST important thing in everyone's life, people might have different priorities, everyone doesn't need this romantic fancy world. For Ranveer his self-respect might be more important than Love, for Neha, a girl who was deprived of all her rights in childhood, might put monetary and materialistic pleasures more than Love, she doesn't even have to look far, for her own husband DEV - Mommy, his family and his guilt-trips-along-the-roads-of-the-dreadful-past is FAR MORE important than Love 🄱. So better she stops thinking about Neha-Ranveer and let them decide their priorities. I would not be happy to see Ranveer turning into another Sona. 😵


I don't want to talk about Ishwari since she is beyond criticism. To save herself from the guilt, she is supporting Neha for divorce. Yes, the family is indeed different, a zoo/paagalkhana .

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