Iswari the Indian Parent How Wrong is she?

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Long back five thousand years ago King Pandu ordered Kunti." Putram Janaya Susroni Dhama Kshatriya tejasa." Kunti I want a son who should be the best. The abode of Kshatriya valour. He should be able to conquer the three worlds."

Even before the birth of Arjun Pandu set a goal for him. He should be the best.
After that Kunti told him he should obey his eldest. Help him be the Chakravarti Samrat.
When Krishna came as an envoy to Hastinapur with peace proposal,Kunti asked him to remind Arjun his duty She has high hopes on him getting back Indraprasth for his brother by fighting the battle.

Our Olympic pride PV Sindhu's mother said in an interview after her great performance." Dream come true for me. I always wanted to see her reach there."
Sania Mirja's father Imran Mirja always said that he genuinely wished to see his daughter Be a Tennis Sensation and the number One Doubles player that she is today.

Great cine stars of our times always aspire to see their sons succeed them and we have many such star families like the Kapurs,Deols,Bhatts etc. Even if the son or daughter is not talented they nourish their desire strongly and train them towards that.Success and failure is another thing but expectations are obvious in every case.
Sunil Gavaskar tried his best for Rohan Gavaskar who eventually failed to make his mark. Esha Deol could not live up to Hemamalini's stature.

Nehru family 's expectations are the result of us being ruled by them for the longest period,Indira,Rajiv,Sonia...

Dhirubhai Ambani certainly groomed Mukesh and Anil to be the successors of his Empire.
Expectations? Yes. Success? Can't say.

My student Rahul hates Maths. He likes commerce." Why did you take MPC then? I questioned him.
" Madam My parents want me to do BTech and settle abroad."

Naumika likes Biology. But she is forced to join MPC. Expectations? Yes.

Parthu wants to be a professional cricketer. But no his parents want him to be an aeronotical Engineer.
Expectations? Yes. What will be their future? Depends on fate.

My friend Mrs Mehta tells me." Lakshmi. I will see to it that my daughter wins the national skating championship."
I tried to point out." But Mrs Mehta your daughter likes to learn dance. That too Kathak. Let her...
Mrs Mehta brushed it off smoothly." She doesn't know anything If she becomes a champion she will get medical seat by discount."

My aunts's daughter told me." Even before our son Rohan is born we decided to make him an IITian.
I wondered.Is it fair to burden him?
She said " You have a daughter only. It is important for us to make Rohan set goals for himself. You know how heavy the pay checques are for IIT toppers.

Kiran the poorest student of my college can't be seen without a book any time. I said." Relax my boy. That much studies will make you stressed up." He told me firmly." My mother works as a cook in Girls hostel. I have to study and earn a lot of money Madam. My mother told me only studies could redeem us of our poverty. So I will do hard work.

Burdened with expectations? Yes.Is there any escape? No. Expectations became like an accessory we wear quite common in all walks of life.
Iswari the illiterate woman worked towards financial stability that can be achieved only if Dev meets with her expectations.Fortunately for her Dev emerged a winner.
Is she greedy? We can't say. We never see her tell Dev you have to earn loads of money.
Yes she did make him understand the need by breaking the waze and asking him to study .

Did she deprive him of his childhood? Yes like all the parents who burden their children with their high expectations she also did the same Like some parent who aspired for excellence in sports for her child,Iswari desparately wanted Dev to be well educated and take them out of their traumatic life effected by poverty.

If she is a sinner to do so all the others who aspire and round the clock toil hard to achieve their goal also are sinners.And it begins with King Pandu who ended up not in hell but in heaven for aspiring and expecting even before Arjun's birth.
Let any one say so but I don't feel so. She is an Indian parent. And she is not an exception.

Discrimination

Why Mytri you are our college topper. Doing MBA is your dream I know. Why are you not continuing with your studies? I asked my college topper.

Mytri did not look depressed.She said." Madam My brother is in plus two. He has to do Engineering. You know my mother can't afford both of us studying further. It's ok. I will write bank exams and get a job." I offered her to recommend her issue with the management who can get her a free seat in their Management institute. But she did not accept. I want a job. That is my priority." She stressed.

Is her mother wrong to sacrifice her further studies for her boy's sake? Can't say.
I was upset but then I also understood Maitri's point.
Is Mytri's mother discriminative? May be yes. May be no.

Iswari chose to educate Dev . She entrusted Neha the responsibility of other two.
After Dev lifted them out of their gloom Iswari must have sighed with relief. She is guilty for Neha. But did she know what kind of way she can show Neha to make a mark for herself? No. An uneducated woman hardly knows of such things. For her the best way is to get Neha married.
She sided with Neha during her first match and also during Ranveer proposal.
Probably she doesn't have the courage to suggest or decide for Neha.

Dev could have guided Neha or enrolled her in correspondence course or in any other skill developing courses. But honestly he is too busy with his life.

Neha needs help and guidance. Hopefully she will get them both.



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Posted: 9 years ago
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@ ltelidevara .. fab post ..

U r soo rite..
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Originally posted by: naj7

@ ltelidevara .. fab post ..

U r soo rite..

Thanks a lot.
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Very good post. All valid points. It's true that Indian parents still burden their kids with their own dreams rather than allowing them to follow their heart. It's true that Indian parents think of a financially secure future first and their kids aspirations later. Sad but true.
Let's come to Dev now. Dev fulfilled all the dreams and aspirations Ishwari expected him to, that is, to make them financially stable. He also fulfilled his duties as a son, as a brother and all other relationships. Yes he could have enrolled Neha into whatever course he wanted but did Neha aant the same? Did Neha ever talk properly to Dev? She was so focussed on protesting against Ishwari and Dev that she never accepted their suggestions, good or bad, she never heard them.

Now Dev fell in love. For the first time in his life, he felt he could be a normal person, someone who didn't have to think about the burdened life anymore, someone who can be a part of an unknown person's life. He married her. Sonakshi is now a part of him (or his responsibilities, whatever you say). He still fulfills his duties as a son, brother etc. Now doesn't he have the right to enjoy some time with his newly wedded wife? Why does he have to be guilty when his sister's marriage hits rock bottom? Did he ever force her to marry Ranveer? No. Why does he have to be guilty when his mother falls sick? Was he responsible? No. That's why people point fingers at Ishwari. And that's where Ishwari's parenting went wrong.


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nice post!
loved all your examples.👏

I will not say anything regarding Dixits in this context as I agree to disagree always 😉

but all your examples are very well researched and apt.😊


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Originally posted by: ...Doctor...

Very good post. All valid points. It's true that Indian parents still burden their kids with their own dreams rather than allowing them to follow their heart. It's true that Indian parents think of a financially secure future first and their kids aspirations later. Sad but true.

Let's come to Dev now. Dev fulfilled all the dreams and aspirations Ishwari expected him to, that is, to make them financially stable. He also fulfilled his duties as a son, as a brother and all other relationships. Yes he could have enrolled Neha into whatever course he wanted but did Neha aant the same? Did Neha ever talk properly to Dev? She was so focussed on protesting against Ishwari and Dev that she never accepted their suggestions, good or bad, she never heard them.

Now Dev fell in love. For the first time in his life, he felt he could be a normal person, someone who didn't have to think about the burdened life anymore, someone who can be a part of an unknown person's life. He married her. Sonakshi is now a part of him (or his responsibilities, whatever you say). He still fulfills his duties as a son, brother etc. Now doesn't he have the right to enjoy some time with his newly wedded wife? Why does he have to be guilty when his sister's marriage hits rock bottom? Did he ever force her to marry Ranveer? No. Why does he have to be guilty when his mother falls sick? Was he responsible? No. That's why people point fingers at Ishwari. And that's where Ishwari's parenting went wrong.


Yes I agree. Any person male or female should first come forward to make a way. Neha should be receptive to suggestions . She always made it a point to blame her brother and mother for her plight. Both of them dreaded to say their take before Neha. Iswari is not in a position to guide her,Dev is not allowed to do anything for her.
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Ishwari belongs to an era where children were not supposed to have any personal aspirations and follow whatever path their parents chartered for them. Also, with the mindset that she has grown up with boys were considered to be the bread winner.
So at least I don't blame her for making the choices she did. Mostly life didn't give her any other choice.

But what she is doing now is bad parenting. She has sub consciously made Dev the father of her daughters and is reacting the way people do when a father of three daughters goes for remarriage.

Further she is constantly trying to emotionally blackmail Dev and send him into guilt trips. A parent is not supposed to demand payment for parental services rendered.

With regards to Neha agreed she has no idea as to what could be done to give Neha a career and education right now. But her parenting is parenting of pacification. This baby's cries are hurting my ears. Give her a toy and shut her up.

With her age and experience she was supposed to know her daughters nature, capacity to adjust and whether she would be able to be happy with Ranveer... She still agreed for the marriage. It was her duty as a parent to stop Neha from making such a bad decision. But then for her the policy of pacify Neha was more important. For her it was all about freedom from her guilt not future of her daughter

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Originally posted by: Shilky88

nice post!

loved all your examples.👏

I will not say anything regarding Dixits in this context as I agree to disagree always 😉

but all your examples are very well researched and apt.😊


Thank you.
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Originally posted by: _Payalj_

Ishwari belongs to an era where children were not supposed to have any personal aspirations and follow whatever path their parents chartered for them. Also, with the mindset that she has grown up with boys were considered to be the bread winner.

So at least I don't blame her for making the choices she did. Mostly life didn't give her any other choice.

But what she is doing now is bad parenting. She has sub consciously made Dev the father of her daughters and is reacting the way people do when a father of three daughters goes for remarriage.

Further she is constantly trying to emotionally blackmail Dev and send him into guilt trips. A parent is not supposed to demand payment for parental services rendered.

With regards to Neha agreed she has no idea as to what could be done to give Neha a career and education right now. But her parenting is parenting of pacification. This baby's cries are hurting my ears. Give her a toy and shut her up.

With her age and experience she was supposed to know her daughters nature, capacity to adjust and whether she would be able to be happy with Ranveer... She still agreed for the marriage. It was her duty as a parent to stop Neha from making such a bad decision. But then for her the policy of pacify Neha was more important. For her it was all about freedom from her guilt not future of her daughter


I don't think Ishwari let Neha marry Ranveer because of her guilt. I think Ishwari genuinely liked Ranveer. Whenever Dev or mami pointed about Ranveer's financial status, she shut them up with confidence. She really believed that Neha could adjust in a middle class family. Here's where her point of knowing Neha best becomes moot. If she would have known Neha, she'd have known that only a rich guy who respects her opinions and conditions can make her happy. Dev realized that way before.

Even now, Ishwari is playing safe by supporting Neha, this is where she's getting rid of the guilt. She could have tried to talk to her, explain her that relationships are not something you can get rid off, you need to work on them. But well, she's too focussed on Dev's love life.
Edited by ...Doctor... - 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ltelidevara

Yes I agree. Any person male or female should first come forward to make a way. Neha should be receptive to suggestions . She always made it a point to blame her brother and mother for her plight. Both of them dreaded to say their take before Neha. Iswari is not in a position to guide her,Dev is not allowed to do anything for her.


If Neha does not pour her outburst loudly on Dev and Ishwari - both of them will remain in their land of refusal, not acknowledging what she contributed to the family.
Specially Ishwari - so in a way what Neha did was right keeping Ishwari's character in mind.
It is due to Neha's outburst we come to know the inner thoughts, expressions etc of Dev and Ishwari to some extent.
There is nothing wrong in blaming Ishwari for Neha's condition, Dev's partiality for his mother is kind of going against Neha.

Yes Neha's methods of protest might be odd, but her points are not invalid.

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