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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: stuti123

you have explained evrrything very beautifully ..I hav always been more biased to sona being a girl ..but today my heart just goes out to dev ..Yes dev shouting at her was very sad to watch but dont we take out our frustations on our loved ones ..It is human nature after all..Even dev knows that vicky is least deserving but the constant reminder of responsibilties and that what he is today is coz of his family coz of mamaji and he has to repay them ..is actually weighing him down ..He is badly trapped in a cage called ishwari niwas and there is no way out of it currently ..even he knows thay sona was right but he cant do much at the moment coz his mom has overburderned him tuned him this way .

It will be a gradual progress of seeing him supporting his sona ..


Sona shuld just let things be ..yes she is trying to help him ..but this is not the right moment ..she shuld just stay calm and stop advising her hubby for the moment .
and wait for things to be normal coz the more she gets herself involved the more problem it will create in her married life


Thank you😊 and you have pointed it out beautifully as well !! We can tolerate and control our anger to every member of the house and but finally will let it all out on our partner because of the feeling of oneness. We can be ourselves without any mask only with our partner and only they know about our other ugly face😆 Dev did exactly the same..he is totally confused why a new relationship hindering the old relationship and need time to analyze the changing dynamics. I supported Sona too for her outburst on their first night and this time Dev too, because thats the basic human nature!

Well Sona will learn to maintain silence as days go since its just her 4th day in the new house as bahu and everything is over her head right now and she is in panicky mode. Once she settles down and starts thinking she will fit all the puzzling pieces easily !
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shilky88

Thanks for such a b'ful n positive post!
I am sure things will definitely improve between Devakshi and Ishu with time,patience and most importantly a little sensitivity towards each other

Thank you 😊 Exactly they have just started a new lease of life and hurdles will be on the way for sure. With time and patience they can definitely overcome the same !

I agree that timing is not perfect for Sona when she came to express her support in Dev's decision
But people are comparing this sequence with the one soon after Neha's marriage..not sure if that's a fair comparison.
In that sequence Dev's mother was not involved and so his toned down reaction.

I would rather compare this situation with the break up sequence as involvement of Ishu in both the scenes plays a major role in Dev's reactions and thought process. I still feel that when it comes Ishu Dev loses everything ..his brain,reasoning,temper and self control. Ishu has that kind of influence over him.

Yes that makes sense too. But this time I dont think Dev has lost his reasoning because thats the main reason for his outburst. He was utterly confused with his Mom's interference for the first time as clearly shown in his thought process. He is going though a conflict now and will come to his senses soon.

At once I thought that he is a changed person when he stood up for Sona against his mom for the pre nup thing but now I feel that I was wrong thinking he has improved.
He might have taken stand as he had a fear of losing Sona (He visIting Sona soon after it and expressing his insecurity and fear made it very obvious)but now he knows that since he is married to Sona he can take her for granted n continue being his Mother 's blind Bhakt.(sorry if my words are harsh or extreme but cannot think of anything else).

I mean asking her for a space at that moment is right but passing on a decision without discussing with her was absolutely wrong.
Same thing he did during break up.He just announced his decision that they must part ways in order for her mom to be happy.
Today also before announcing any decision he should have a least thought that It might just hurt her and it actually did --seeing the precap seq.

Frankly speaking Sona has got no role to play in Dev's business decision but fortunately or unfortunately she happened to be involved in this one. Dev should have acknowledged that.
But whenever it came to what his mom wanted out of him, he just skipped the presence of Sona in his life.
Not right !!


I can agree he being blind bhakt during the breakup phase but in Vicky's job somehow I feel there is more to what we see. I may be totally wrong but I would like to know that in future episodes, because he didn't follow his mother blindly as he had a conflicting introspection in his mind this time. He still know Sona is right and what Vicky is capable off and yet he put his business in risk !..Something is fishy...am sure this will be addressed in future episodes..lets see

Again although not every decision need partner's approval, I would like to wait and see what his reason for taking this decision on his own from Monday's episode. Till then I will reserve my comment for this😆

No he is not skipping Sona, thats the reason for his first humiliation infront of his house..now he is on the learning process how to fit Sona in this mad family..remember Sona is not here to compete but to complete and this process is going to take some time.. Not for just Ishwari, it is also a journey for Dev to step up from being an Obedient Son to supporting husband 😳



Thank you for your poised and mature response even though its off different POV. Really appreciate it especially after reading some languages all around the forum😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thank you😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: deepsel

Shabaaz! What a brilliant post my dear.! Take a bow! I can feel you have written this with lots of fire in your belly! Just superb!⭐️ One of your best posts! Loving it much! And you have written it so well with passion !



No doubt the series is going through one of the darkest phase here but I assure, you will see the light in the end not because am being optimistic but because of the fact I am enjoying that light right now !!


Yes my blood boiled too not because of the episodes but to the horror of seeing myself in Sona some 13 years ago. Yes I was an independent career woman with an extremely high female ego before marriage, yes I got married to my parents choice, yes I had to go through hell for the first year of marriage, yes I had to support them financially and emotionally but though I had the option of lashing on each insults and walking out, I didn't ...not because I was a doormat but because I have learned life is not without compromises., but because I was matured enough to know that my identity battle is going to be same everywhere I go, but because I have learned when to assert my rights and not, but because most of all I know there is always light at the end of the tunnel. Today am the brain, backbone, whatever you want to call of every professional and personal decision my husband takes. Ofcourse I am not suggesting this is the only way out but merely stating being patient and compromising and not walking out, is not an act of cowardice and failure !!

Exactly! Compromise is not weakness but actually how you grow as person! Maturity and successful and still retaining your identity!



I am genuinely happy for all you younger generation whose marriage has started on the blissful note but please don't generalize every woman who think this track as reality to be doormat and delusional for each of us know what we exactly went through in the same shoe of Sona and achieved !! As for the unmarried , marriage is not always the destination but in case you happen to bound to it , just know that bowing your head before your loved ones is not always an act of disgrace to your self respect !!

Well said!👏 I am loving this highlighted . very very true!

Doormats indeed!- easily they come up with such labellings without a thought ! it boils down to immaturity way of thinking. The fast and furious , its me or the highway type of life will not last too long...


Coming to the episodes, yes they were extremely painful to watch. I had to distract my mind watching older episodes I won't lie but except for the Vicky part I have seen every character behaving the same way in real life. Please understand that I don't condone their behaviors but I do understand why they behaved the way the behaved post marriage!!

Absolutely!


Dev:


He has shown tremendous growth post marriage in the color of Sona's love, giving her space when needed, seeking her opinions, respecting her values until today when he was put in the spot by his mother ! He very well know his wife is right and Vicky deserves the trainee post first and he even tried to reason with Ishwari but his terrifying past showed its ugly head once again. The guy who broke up his love in a second for his mom obviously will succumb to his Mom's order when Ishwari cleverly laced his "eshaan" with guilt of new responsibility (Sona). I am actually very curious when Dev had those words as thought process and he clearly needed a lone space that time. Dev openly wished it from Sona but when it didn't happen, the first human natural instinct is to lash and walk out..he did the same !

So he took the time and made his own decision to fulfill Mom's wish because somewhere deep down he also felt his current financial status is all from the small shelter of protection which came from his Mamaji . It doesn't matter whether Vicky is eligible or not , Dev thinks can take care of his blunders like how he always shoulders responsibilities. This job is a mere eye wash for their guilt of seeing his Mamaji 's family in the lower financial state than them. We can debate that this "eshaan" could have been made with many different ways but Dixit family captured the first way that came to them - Vicky's job !


Dev is very much shocked to hear his Mom's accusation to register GKB's taunt and take Sona's side. Dev is showing very gradual growth as a husband and we are being unreasonable expecting a rapid change in him fighting back to his elder family member when he had clearly told Sona even before marriage why he maintains his silence for their taunts ! But am sure that day is not far when he stands up for his wife !!


His calm face after the job announcement and his dialog " This is not about you" to Sona tells me there is something more than what we saw in the episode !

We cannot just look at the superficial shouting and yelling of Dev at Sona. He said very clearly its not about her. She doesn't know about his past. He took a decision with his wife. But mother brought him down memory lane reminded him of their past. They wouldnt be here today if not for her brother's help at that time and also those sacrifices she made in preference to her daughters for him.At that time, that help was so precious that cannot forgetten easily but remember it for lifetime no matter how successful you are today.! Do them a favour by giving Vicky the job. Its not even if he was capable or not.That's not the point. They owed their success today to that family too and in way, Ish want Dev to do the favours to them by giving Vicky a managerial position. That's all. So by Dev giving that job, is not a mama's boy, spineless...well you know he has so many names given by people I have lost count.😆

You know when Dev said...sona you dont know about my past..."Do you know what it feels like when you sister stares at you as if you have snatched her food away?" I was really moved by this and shocked. He had a tough time... The hardships he went through. What his mother did for him by being a maid , so that he could get the best in everything and Ish reminded how dared he forgot that!

He was angry not at Sona, but at himself, at his past...and Sona comforting him wasnt not the right time. Not saying that his shouting was right. He wasnt in the right frame of mind..and when he came to his room, Sona talking about it , didnt help and he just lashed out at her...very true what he said...he didnt have a normal childhood like she did...But doing that , in no way, said that he dis respected her. He just wanted to be alone with his thoughts and think through what needs to be done for the next step. Redeem himself. To fulfill the gratitude and obligation that he owed this family!

So he went off and came back so calmly with a decision already made that would make the others happy. And he knew what Vicky is capable of . That's why he told Mamaji, not to worry, he will handle it.

I was angry too, but after thinking through...it made sense to me too.

Sona:


Like most of the newly weds, Sona is trying to mingle to an impossible family. Can we blame her? Its just her 4th day of married life and she genuinely wants to please her MIL who is the most important person of her husband's life. Sona very well know Dev came back to her only after his Mom's approval and she still hold on to that insecure feeling of breaking up again. Poor girl is still in the delusion of her happenings and her only support right now is her husband ! She still gives back to GKB and Vicky when needed but mostly avoids because she knows with gutters she is bound to get dirty and not them !I So she is not spineless but for now being quiet to the situations gauging it !!


So is she wrong when she went to Dev to console and voice her support that he was indeed right in his decision? - NO... But is the timing wrong? - YES !!


Remember the scene of Neha's Vidaai and Dev's breakdown. Sona went to console him but tries to leave when he didn't acknowledge only to be stopped by Dev. Then he shared his pain and she consoled. Thats the Sona Dev needed today but instead we saw a desperate Sona trying to force her support when Dev clearly needed space. Sometimes its better to give these guys what they want because trust me they will come back !! But with the amount of pressure she is handling in this mad house, I can totally understand her frustration and fear.


Sona's reaction after Dev's announcement and Precap is the result of that mounting fear of her place in his life and those painful past of heartbreak!!

I am really amazed at how quickly people tag them with such names over an act...this shows how they think and would react to such situations.

Sona is not wrong to support her husband. Just that the timing was not right in this occassion. His mind is elsewhere and the last thing he needs to hear from his wife, is he took the right decision for which he was berated by his mom for forgetting his past. The past that made the present of who he is today. And that's why he wanted her to be quiet but she keep going at him , just blew the matter up and he walked off.


Both Dev and Sona are imperfect and are reason for their own miseries. Both needs to grow for this relationship and it will be achieved with time !! Lets give them that..

There is not such thing as a perfect marriage, perfect husband and wife...there are no guarantee in life...you just go with the flow...it how you to live and choose your happiness that matters! Issues will always be there. Its how you manage, control and handle it . Does not make one weak...but stronger everyday!


Deepsel...beautiful post...

Frankly speaking I am sick of reading posts of name callings of Dev and Sona for any acts they do which does not go well. So quick and hasty to jump to conclusions. Too judgemental!

In reality...I wonder if they dare to do such things.? I think some people are trapped in their lives and they want to take it out on Dev ( mostly ) for the miseries they themselves experience and.this is their way to find some kind of avenge , satisfaction...of what they cant change in their lives. While the others are so modern in thinking they have a ready made solutions! While there are some genuinely appreciating this track and saying that its very true...now these posts interests me.

I also realize that people like to complain a lot ...but when it comes to compliment ...all is quiet except a few...

Strange huh...but sad...so that's why I choose posts like yours to read coz there is maturity,positivity and reality and the best part there's a light at the end of the tunnel

Thank you my dear friend for such a wonderful post. I almost missed it but a little monkey who came to stat at my place (my niece) has been using my lappy late night.

Have a great week end !


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hi how did I miss your post? May be didn't look proper. About Friday episode. I don't want to comment or complain. Just want to say that I am so sad and hurt 😭 for both sona and dev. And fuel to fire this morning sbs video. Make me more angry. I still trying to find why this show can make me cry even if I am not watching. I think I need to stop attached to much with it but I think my mind knows that this is just show but my heart is still to much attached to sona and dev. Will be busy the next two weeks . Company from India. So might
Not able to come to forum till Diwali.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: cscs

Brilliant analysis and thanks for adding your personal experience in it. Coming the ongoing tracks, it is important to show clashes between the characters to show their growth. Ishwari manipulated Dev like always by playing the "obligation" card. He has always listened that whatever he is today, is because of the "sacrifices" that his family has made for him. He was given more love and opportunities and he should be forever indebted towards his family. It always works on Dev, isn't it. But yesterday there was a resistance in Dev's voice, his views didn't matched with Ishwari and it will be a learning experience for him. He will be more firm with his decisions in future, specially related to Sona. Somehow i even feel that he wanted to be left alone at the moment and didn't wanted to talk to anyone. And that is the reason he shouted on Sonakshi. I really dunno how much he is bashed for his fight with sona and what new title he has been given, but yesterday he just wanted some space.


Thank you😊 Exactly even I found that resistance in his voice for the first time against Ishwari in sober state. This is the starting point and am sure he is going to come around once he fit all the missing pieces for his mother's puzzling behavior . Yes it doesn't matter whether it was Sona or Vicky or Bhola bhaiyya, he would have lashed the same way because he really wanted to be alone as he was very much hurt by Ishwari's shocking order. Poor Sona had to bear the brunt for choosing the wrong time to console.

Sona, needs to calm down a bit (just like our cvs). She is new and try to adjust slowly in the family. She is witnessing what Dev is going through and how is emotionally manipulated by his family. She will realise and give him all the love and strength that he deserve.

Poor girl is totally clueless as of now but she is matured and will be soon connecting all dots and take a stand. Till then this is bound to happen

How much we all hate such dark episodes, but they are required to take story forward. The light will scatter after these dark clouds will disappear.

haha yes definitely light is around the corner😳 But I think too much reality is hard to digest for anyone after all we dont want to witness the same haunted past of our life playing in front of our eyes, it will be better if CVs can tone down the negative realities and show some lighter moments..we need more balanced episodes to satisfy all catergoies of viewers here😆

Ps- Dev didn't hit vicky for misbehaving with Sona. I am more angry for that

Did Vicky misbehaved with Sona in front of Dev? 😲 I hope not else am sure Dev would have hit Vicky pulp and blue😆 Am eagerly waiting for that day 😈

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Exactly ... bang on...I wrote a post few days ago asking if Sona is really doormat ? I wrote why she is not ... she is trying to adjust into new world of inlaws
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: thedramaqueen

Agree with you.


The mom-son relationship is at an all time low and we know why. Ishwari didn't expect things to change so drastically. That is ofcourse the main story-line. Ishwari would have been happy with whatever Vicky would have been happy with. Mamiji as we can see knows to pull the right strings.

I believe Vicky's job was blown out of proportion only after knowing Sona's involvement in it. Ishwari's insecurities surfaced again and this time when Dev tried to reason her back her request turned into loud order resulting in his humiliation. Ishwari have started digging her own grave IMO.


Sona doesn't know the back story. I always felt she should have stayed out of this one topic 4 days into her wedded life. She is badly bruised now. I wonder when she will start opening up to Elena. Haven't seen her dadi on screen lately. Poor soul, she needs to talk. Unless Neha or Nikki will be her friends. Have very little expectations from Ms Perfect Riya

Definitely !! Sona badly need a companion from Bose family to share now. I wish makers show some solace to Sona instead of suffocating her from every corner.

Dev Dixit, when will you stop throwing googlies at people. How about calling Vicky in the study at home and explaining everything like you did with Riya? That is where he needs to grow. These saree, shopping, non veg, vicky surprises that you throw at Ishu mumma topple everything. All he had to do was create a role for Vicky, where he gets a cabin and whiles away his own time and Dev's money. Reading between the lines, that's what he has done. He clears says to mamaji that he will deal with the losses too.

😆 Dev knows all shots just need to pick right ones for right ball 😉 else he is bound to get out like this😛


My only issue is the insults Dev is allowing. It's not about sona, so why is she taunted ? Lots of men and women do this for love. We all tolerate for our significant other. Of course it wasnt about her. But sadly due to her own nicety she got dragged into this. Naye rishte, teri biwi etc are harsh words. Dev had a bigger fish to fry and he reacted like anyone would have. I just hope when things are calmer he starts speaking up(like he did at muh dikhai) and starts drawing the line. just like mamiji has now started self-correcting herself and calls Sona bahurani not bangalan.

I am sure he will definitely stand up for his wife as he grows because i already saw that glimpse in mooh-dhikayi 😳 Its only the matter of time for men to understand their wife and her value. Dev is definitely on the way 😊


I said in another post, Devakshi are so intense. As Ishwari will go deeper in this gloom woven out of insecurities, these arguments will get more intense.

Congratulations to the makers. Well done again

Yes the more intense they fight, the more intense they patch up😉 Makers just need to balance the episodes and tone down negative reality to appease all category of viewers😆

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnanyaGhosh

Idk how to thank u fr dis absolutely brilliant and a much needed post 👏🤗

Evry1 here were bashing dev fr lashing out at sona or were bashing sona fr nt giving him space... U r absolutely correct in analysing it... Dev needed tym and space indeed to register wht his mother said... And ishwari we all kno how cleverly she imposed guilt in dev's mind and heart abt forgetting old relationships coz of new ones.. 😲🥱 dev vry well knows in his subconscious mind dat sona was right in vicky ka trainee position and his mom was wrong.. Bt human emotions plays its own games 😳 and den conscious mind told dev dat his mother is always correct and he has to return dat ehsaan...

Ishwari also knows dat vicky is nt at all capable of dev's company ka trainee also bt just to show in front of sona dat dev still hears her and only her no matter whoevr comes 'btwn' dem 😕

Still i wld once again a big thank u to u fr such a lovely post... U r indeed d much needed light in d forrum... Keep posting such posts 😃


Aww thank you so much sweetheart 🤗

You got it all right and I have nothing more to say😆 !! Human emotions indeed play its own games👏
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Aazeen02

It is most of the time that I find genuine support and solace in your posts Deepa di.

Standing into Sonakshi's shoes when I read such negative responses around, being called a doormat and stuff, I genuinely start getting agitated. I am unmarried, but fiercely independent. I don't exactly sit and wait for a man to bring forward my life, coz I myself am capable of doing it.
Yet, I am been taught to take it low and bend when it comes to your family. Be it before marriage or after marriage. Not exactly to become somebody's punching bag, but that exact shoulder that never deceives. I was taught to mingle around if whichever family I am married to, and try being a part of it. Just like Sona is doing.
I don't find her losing her originality in it. I am telling so because, we are watching this for two weeks, but in the show's timeline it was just day four. And don't we try mingling around for initial few days even when we go to stay at any relative's house? Just because we are agreeing to them makes us a doormat?

It certainly is just the starting of her life, once she begins with her work, she will obviously have lesser time to try becoming an ideal bahu, and obviously will be lesser reasons for the family to hurl insults at her.
And looking by Dev, he himself isn't able to contend himself with the little attention he is getting from his wife. He is going to demand his night time rightfully from her. I am obviously not talking about the sexual reasons, but more the emotional support, on which Dev has started resting his tired body on.

Amidst so many negative posts and comments on Dev's outburst, I find few who can relate to his frustration and confusion. Thank you for not outrightly blaming him for his behavior and criticizing him.

Your post was a respite more because I can see the lessons my mother had given me out of her experience from a marriage into an impossible family, in your posts. The lessons of not getting any smaller bending for your loved ones. The lessons of not leaving the in laws place for the matter of not being accepted by them. The lessons of holding patience for the initial few years of marriage coz you are going through loads of emotional, physical, hormonal changes what with marriage, new environment, new people, then kids start coming into account, pregnancy, adjusting around having a baby around, loads of things. And then slowly things start getting settled. That is what it happens in a normal case scenario, with or without inlaws...

Ofcourse you can always leave the place if the abuse begins anytime. That is a total different case scenario. Then no one in the world will ask the girl to not be someone's punching bag or the doormat.
But if that is not, your lessons, lessons by my mother are a bundle of respite that, it is okay to adjust even when you are a 21st century independent girl. Because family is the name of love, and to adjust and compromise is the second side of the coin of love.
Even Dev has learnt to compromise, in his own words "Dev Dixit ko aaj tak koi jhuka nahi paaya hai, par pyaar ne jhuka diya"... It's not just Bending and sitting on your knees to propose, it is the feeling to let go your ego ASAP and come home early and apologize. It is to quietly listen to the taunts of your father In law, because he is the father of my love, and if he is angry, he has to listen to it without doing an ouch. Even when your wife listens to your family's taunts, you can also come down to listening her family's words.
When Dev is compromising for the love of his wife no one calls him a doormat. But when the wife does, all the feminism comes to the fore.

It is a two way road, and I love your posts on this.
Thank you. 🤗


Sweetheart your post really made me emotional !! Bless you dear for attaining such maturity at this age and this sensible response especially after reading so many judgmental, mud slugging and name calling posts !! Very very proud of you..so should your parents too👏

Frankly I was really hurt reading some snarky comments about us calling this reality. I have no problem with different POV but definitely have with the way you put it !! And my post is the result of that..

Its very easy to use scathing words to put your point strong but its very difficult to look at someone from their shoes and it surely needs a sensible heart to look back at the pains your words caused behind !!

I feel feminism is the most misused word nowadays..not just in the forum even outside all I can see in the name of woman right now is an extreme ego and impatience which is hiding under the name of fake feminism. No wonder the institution of marriages are lined up outside divorce offices for petty issues.

Sorry for this unusual response from my side but your comment pierced the sensitive part of my heart! Thank you !!


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