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Aazeen02 thumbnail
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Posted: 8 years ago
#11
It is most of the time that I find genuine support and solace in your posts Deepa di.

Standing into Sonakshi's shoes when I read such negative responses around, being called a doormat and stuff, I genuinely start getting agitated. I am unmarried, but fiercely independent. I don't exactly sit and wait for a man to bring forward my life, coz I myself am capable of doing it.
Yet, I am been taught to take it low and bend when it comes to your family. Be it before marriage or after marriage. Not exactly to become somebody's punching bag, but that exact shoulder that never deceives. I was taught to mingle around if whichever family I am married to, and try being a part of it. Just like Sona is doing.
I don't find her losing her originality in it. I am telling so because, we are watching this for two weeks, but in the show's timeline it was just day four. And don't we try mingling around for initial few days even when we go to stay at any relative's house? Just because we are agreeing to them makes us a doormat?

It certainly is just the starting of her life, once she begins with her work, she will obviously have lesser time to try becoming an ideal bahu, and obviously will be lesser reasons for the family to hurl insults at her.
And looking by Dev, he himself isn't able to contend himself with the little attention he is getting from his wife. He is going to demand his night time rightfully from her. I am obviously not talking about the sexual reasons, but more the emotional support, on which Dev has started resting his tired body on.

Amidst so many negative posts and comments on Dev's outburst, I find few who can relate to his frustration and confusion. Thank you for not outrightly blaming him for his behavior and criticizing him.

Your post was a respite more because I can see the lessons my mother had given me out of her experience from a marriage into an impossible family, in your posts. The lessons of not getting any smaller bending for your loved ones. The lessons of not leaving the in laws place for the matter of not being accepted by them. The lessons of holding patience for the initial few years of marriage coz you are going through loads of emotional, physical, hormonal changes what with marriage, new environment, new people, then kids start coming into account, pregnancy, adjusting around having a baby around, loads of things. And then slowly things start getting settled. That is what it happens in a normal case scenario, with or without inlaws...

Ofcourse you can always leave the place if the abuse begins anytime. That is a total different case scenario. Then no one in the world will ask the girl to not be someone's punching bag or the doormat.
But if that is not, your lessons, lessons by my mother are a bundle of respite that, it is okay to adjust even when you are a 21st century independent girl. Because family is the name of love, and to adjust and compromise is the second side of the coin of love.
Even Dev has learnt to compromise, in his own words "Dev Dixit ko aaj tak koi jhuka nahi paaya hai, par pyaar ne jhuka diya"... It's not just Bending and sitting on your knees to propose, it is the feeling to let go your ego ASAP and come home early and apologize. It is to quietly listen to the taunts of your father In law, because he is the father of my love, and if he is angry, he has to listen to it without doing an ouch. Even when your wife listens to your family's taunts, you can also come down to listening her family's words.
When Dev is compromising for the love of his wife no one calls him a doormat. But when the wife does, all the feminism comes to the fore.

It is a two way road, and I love your posts on this.
Thank you. 🤗
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Posted: 8 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: ashakd

danya ho mate!!!!!!!!!!! you are the light in this forum...tere muh mein ghee sakar...😃


Okies , wont comment much on the episode. But I now know where the wisdom must be flowing from...13 years????? I beat you on this...16 years and happily counting. 🤗aja ek jappi lele le...will chat about the episode some other day...have a nice weekend buddy.


Oye oye senior 😆😆 I just peeped before sleeping and look who I found..logged in to give you this 🤗

Now I know where your wisdom is flowing from 😉 Yes will talk about post later, my eyes are crying for sleep..its 1;30 am here😆 You have a great weekend too dear..catch you later 🤗

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Happy that I finally caught one of your posts at a time when I can reply! 😃


First, I have to say that *you* have been that light in the dark so many times on this forum. When it seems to be overflowing with negativity, you bring that much needed perspective and maturity to the analysis of show and characters! 👏 While I agree that we shouldn't condone wrong actions or behaviour in the name of fiction, I also believe that the role of fiction is not just to preach what is "right" (after all, that is entirely subjective) but to hold up a mirror to our society so we can look at it from a different perspective, and think critically about ourselves and the choices we make. To me, despite some small flaws here and there, that is precisely what this show does, and that is why we praise its realism. It's not because we are any less disapproving of Ishwari's manipulation, or Dev's outburst, or Sona's overzealousness to fit in, but because they give us a different vantage point from which to think about how these relationships work, and perhaps to apply that fresh perspective to our own lives. At least, that is how I like to think of it.

Okay lecture done.😆

I loved your analysis of the episode as well!

I completely agree that Dev has grown a lot since the reconciliation, and their subsequent marriage. I don't think he is getting enough credit for how vigilant he is about Ishwari's attitude towards Sona, compared to how blind he was pre-breakuk-up. Unfortunately, he didn't anticipate that the person he would have to protect Sona most from was herself! As I have said in other posts, Sona is still nursing the scars of the break-up and hasn't learned to trust Dev (I don't think she trusted him before the breakup either, but that is a different story). That is the major piece of the puzzle she is missing in her assessment of the situation, and until she communicates clearly to Dev that she is scared and he communicates clearly why things are different between him and Ishwari after the break-up, they will continue to have these fights that scrape the surface.

When Dev said, "it's not about you," I think he was right. The conflict about Vicky's post arose from issues and experiences that went way back before Sona became part of this family, and Dev became the man who is part of the Dev and Sona relationship. Ishwari's disappointment and anger was with Dev for forgetting those things and getting carried away in Sona's black and white suggestion, as though they were a normal family, and Dev a normal CEO. It had nothing to do with Sona herself, the way I see it, and since marriage, Ishwari has been least concerned with Sona, but for the times Sona herself forces her way into her line of vision. Ishwari's exclusion is not through meanness or pushing Sona out... it's through not letting her in in the first place.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#14
Yes, yes, yes!! Patience is a virtue not a weakness.
You are right in all counts about both Dev and Sona.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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My God.. Deepa, you've left me speechless 👏
Honestly I agree with everything you've written! You just said everything I was thinking ...

I'm seeing the light in this tunnel... It's going to shine, I have faith in what the makers are showing

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thanks again..what a beautifully written post. I kept waiting to read your post before I went to bed as I know you will show the light at the end of the tunnel.
For me it was all realistic with respect to Dev and Sonas behaviour yesterday true to thier characters. It will take some patience, time and maturity to handle such things in future. They will grow as we all do from our mistakes. Btw high five 13 years of marriage for me as well and when I look back there are things I feel I could have done differently in certain situations but were apt actions of those situations as me or my hubby didnt know any other way to react at that time. Mine was a intercaste love marraige and staying in a joint family came with lot of challenges. I love KRPKAB ..the CVs are so far been successful in all the last episodes to keep balance of realism(this shows usp) and drama quotient.

Have a good weekend. Its only happy devakshi VMs to survive till Monday and but I am eagerly waiting for Monday episode.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Amazin post deepsel.
I agree with you. In fact made a similar post


http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4732956
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Well i can see why i like ur posts.. much needed for keeping up the positivity. It takes immense courage to stand up for oneself in a new environment when the feeling of being an outsider is still fresh.. i hve been there.
coming to the episode.. it was one of those moments where my neutral point of view goes for a toss and i hve to engage myself to push the emotions aside. But sleeping over it gives a whole new picture.

Totally agree that Dev has grown immensely aft the marriage. So far he was like a apple tree with several ivy's spiralled around him nd feeding on his strength primary beneficiary being ishwari. He had considered this as a way of his life until his own sunshine smiled down on him nd started drawing strength nd energy frm her.


It is a liberating experience for dev to take decisions along with sona... so far all the decisions he had taken has been supported by ishwari nd this is the first time it is challenged.

Whn engagement was forced he felt suffocated. But he broke it nd was supported by ma.

Break up was his sole decision nd ma accepted

Vicky's job was his decision too but is openly opposed by ma nd first time he is facing a situation where ma is literally forcing her decision down his throat with a ehsaan coated pill.

The suffocation level is too high tht we can see he is having trouble breathing.. he can clearly see the mess he is in nd hence ordered sona to stay out of it.. ofcourse the way he lashed out was harsh but he was protective of her by not dragging her into this mess..( i can totally relate to dev as i was forced to leave my airline job which i loved to bits aft marriage though my in laws had agreed tht thy will let me continue my career)

The open questioning of his ma leaves him shaken nd makes him relent but he has started realising the mess of a family he is in.. but keeping sona away frm this is not going to help him either.

The ivy's will strangle him to death unless he loosens their hold on him. He cannot cut himself frm thm but can certainly see tht the day is not too far for dev to embrace his sunshine totally nd bring light to his family.

P.S. ur header fr the thread is superb

Any typos.. sorry


No doubt the series is going through one of the darkest phase here but I assure, you will see the light in the end not because am being optimistic but because of the fact I am enjoying that light right now !!


Yes my blood boiled too not because of the episodes but to the horror of seeing myself in Sona some 13 years ago. Yes I was an independent career woman with an extremely high female ego before marriage, yes I got married to my parents choice, yes I had to go through hell for the first year of marriage, yes I had to support them financially and emotionally but though I had the option of lashing on each insults and walking out, I didn't ...not because I was a doormat but because I have learned life is not without compromises., but because I was matured enough to know that my identity battle is going to be same everywhere I go, but because I have learned when to assert my rights and not, but because most of all I know there is always light at the end of the tunnel. Today am the brain, backbone, whatever you want to call of every professional and personal decision my husband takes. Ofcourse I am not suggesting this is the only way out but merely stating being patient and compromising and not walking out, is not an act of cowardice and failure !!


I am genuinely happy for all you younger generation whose marriage has started on the blissful note but please don't generalize every woman who think this track as reality to be doormat and delusional for each of us know what we exactly went through in the same shoe of Sona and achieved !! As for the unmarried , marriage is not always the destination but in case you happen to bound to it , just know that bowing your head before your loved ones is not always an act of disgrace to your self respect !!


Coming to the episodes, yes they were extremely painful to watch. I had to distract my mind watching older episodes I won't lie but except for the Vicky part I have seen every character behaving the same way in real life. Please understand that I don't condone their behaviors but I do understand why they behaved the way the behaved post marriage!!



Dev:


He has shown tremendous growth post marriage in the color of Sona's love, giving her space when needed, seeking her opinions, respecting her values until today when he was put in the spot by his mother ! He very well know his wife is right and Vicky deserves the trainee post first and he even tried to reason with Ishwari but his terrifying past showed its ugly head once again. The guy who broke up his love in a second for his mom obviously will succumb to his Mom's order when Ishwari cleverly laced his "eshaan" with guilt of new responsibility (Sona). I am actually very curious when Dev had those words as thought process and he clearly needed a lone space that time. Dev openly wished it from Sona but when it didn't happen, the first human natural instinct is to lash and walk out..he did the same !!


So he took the time and made his own decision to fulfill Mom's wish because somewhere deep down he also felt his current financial status is all from the small shelter of protection which came from his Mamaji . It doesn't matter whether Vicky is eligible or not , Dev thinks can take care of his blunders like how he always shoulders responsibilities. This job is a mere eye wash for their guilt of seeing his Mamaji 's family in the lower financial state than them. We can debate that this "eshaan" could have been made with many different ways but Dixit family captured the first way that came to them - Vicky's job !


Dev is very much shocked to hear his Mom's accusation to register GKB's taunt and take Sona's side. Dev is showing very gradual growth as a husband and we are being unreasonable expecting a rapid change in him fighting back to his elder family member when he had clearly told Sona even before marriage why he maintains his silence for their taunts ! But am sure that day is not far when he stands up for his wife !!


His calm face after the job announcement and his dialog " This is not about you" to Sona tells me there is something more than what we saw in the episode !



Sona:


Like most of the newly weds, Sona is trying to mingle to an impossible family. Can we blame her? Its just her 4th day of married life and she genuinely wants to please her MIL who is the most important person of her husband's life. Sona very well know Dev came back to her only after his Mom's approval and she still hold on to that insecure feeling of breaking up again. Poor girl is still in the delusion of her happenings and her only support right now is her husband ! She still gives back to GKB and Vicky when needed but mostly avoids because she knows with gutters she is bound to get dirty and not them !I So she is not spineless but for now being quiet to the situations gauging it !!


So is she wrong when she went to Dev to console and voice her support that he was indeed right in his decision? - NO... But is the timing wrong? - YES !!


Remember the scene of Neha's Vidaai and Dev's breakdown. Sona went to console him but tries to leave when he didn't acknowledge only to be stopped by Dev. Then he shared his pain and she consoled. Thats the Sona Dev needed today but instead we saw a desperate Sona trying to force her support when Dev clearly needed space. Sometimes its better to give these guys what they want because trust me they will come back !! But with the amount of pressure she is handling in this mad house, I can totally understand her frustration and fear.


Sona's reaction after Dev's announcement and Precap is the result of that mounting fear of her place in his life and those painful past of heartbreak!!



Both Dev and Sona are imperfect and are reason for their own miseries. Both needs to grow for this relationship and it will be achieved with time !! Lets give them that..



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Posted: 8 years ago
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Beautifully explained. The trouble here is both of them come from two different worlds.
Dev - struggled through childhood and depended big time on his mom's emotional support for everything. Every decision ever made was based on her judgement.
Sona - had a easier childhood and she was given the confidence to make her own decisions. She is used to applying her mind and Ishwari rules with her heart. So it's hard for to change so quickly.
Dev is just stuck because both women are right. Vicky isn't good enough for a better job. They owe it to Mamaji to make sure his son has a good life.
I blame Ishwari for this mess. If Vicky is smart and hardworking he will rise up the ladder naturally. You don't have to create a dummy post for him. It won't help him gain confidence or even maturity. They are already giving him a roof over his head, good food, clothes and even a car. Why a job on a platter too.
I wish Mamaji had said something. His sister listens to him.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sona_naksh

u ve said it all ...its nit only abt dev or sona ..dey r togeder into dis ...
in ishwari niwas dev's decision were never judged never questioned ...but hez being questioned n judged for everything now ...its all new for him also ...it takes time for a person to adapt to new changes ...
dev n sona ll also learn it ...n dey know only one way to learn that is galti karke ...


Exactly this is the first time, his decision was questioned and humiliated openly he is bound to be confused at the new developments happenings in his life after marriage.

As you said, we all learn from our mistakes and both Dev and Sona aren't different either 😳.

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