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Posted: 9 years ago
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You are right. My post is made based on my perspective. But so is yours and everyone else'. But I am not writing a post from a completely inhumane cold perspective. I am writing the post from a completely human perspective called honour which only human being understand.

Rejecting love at the name of motherly love, is right in India because of the double standard between gender we are prone to support but that's dishonorable in every other sense of equality.

Causing your own family insult and humiliation for the man who threw you away and isn't even willing to fight for you, may be honourable in a romantic sense, but dishonorable in every other sense.

Convincing a person that you will try your best to move on and in your own engagement party inviting your ex without discussing it with the man who stood by you every single time, dishonorable and unacceptable behaviour in every sense.

If love is everything, then when Dev dumped Sona for Ishwari, he behaved without honour (which I pointed out).

If family is everything, then today Sona behaved without honour (which again I pointed out).

I am an equalist. What is sauce for goose, is sauce for gander. I can't judge men and women in different scale of honour based on their gender.

They are both flawed character. I am not oblivious to it. I know it and I have a right to be upset to see someone act so irresponsibly. That does not take away from the fact that I enjoyed the show. That just takes away my biases towards the characters.

Originally posted by: dikshat

I don't agree much..only in parts maybe.

My point of disagreement is with the subject of ur post itself..
Gamble - according to me none of them played a gamble. They have actually been going by the statement, kya khote hai kya paate hai jab dil ke faisle dimag se hote hai..they have been taking decisions using their mind which is the most unstable in the situation they are in and hence that made them make decisions in a haste without letting them accept the reality. And sadly they have not been able to shut up their hearts...their emotions refuse to accept practicality just like in real life scenarios.

For Ritik, it wasnt a gamble. A gamble is played only when you're getting something big outta it. Bigger Risk, gamble, won, even bigger reward. Or mayb outta habit and fun.
I haven't read or mite have missed your view in Ritik's decision on marrying Sonakshi. Time and again I have been mentioning in my posts, I don't see Ritik having any emotional involvement with Sonakshi..even today on their engagement day. Yes he supports her, wants to help her, but where is that strong feeling that you have for a person or a strong love connection that makes you forget or overlook big huge things?? Why would a person want to marry a girl who is always talking about her ex with him, whose ex has been brining problems (loan deny) to his life, whose ex according to Ritik has got them humiliated publically (newspaper) he's not in love with.
To be frank I have still not understood The reason for Ritik's decision to marry Sona. I have not understood what he will get out of it, what's the reward? A reward so big that he is willing to take the risk and play the gamble as mentioned by you. Coz in my opinion, it's not that he won't find another girl or there's no other girl like Sona for that matter. He mentioned he'll be a lucky guy IF Sona gets married to him but that surely again doesn't mean not marrying Sona will make him unlucky.

Now coming to Sona. I think it was a gamble when she told Dev the other day that if he agrees to maary her, she'll take care of parents and other things and won't even think twice.

If you ask me, Dev didnt have to do much today to pull Sona towards him... We saw since friday only that prior to engagement day she was most of the times in control of her emotions (except when alone or in front of Elena on an instance) or hell bent to do the engagement but when the actual moment was about to arrive, her frustration, her uneasiness, her fear all started coming out in open. And so even today, she had all her concentration on Dev. Even if he had not drunk or lets say much before he got drunk she still had all her attention towards him.

For Dev, he's sooo weak at the moment that he's passed that stage where he even has a singke sign of hope that something will happen. Infact he's accepted the fact that he doesn't deserve Sona. And in such situations plus with no faith in god, he can't even expect a miracle.

My disagreement with all your posts is on similar lines. PERSPECTIVE.
Your posts are what I wil call an ideal scenario where there is clear distinction between what should be done and what should not Be done...what is right and what is not right. They are far away from emotions..which comes first and foremost to humans in any situation and forms the basis of their actions and reactions
only practical logical and rational thought is far from reality for me and reality appeals more to me.
I would always prefer to focus on why it happened, why was it done. To me finding and answer to why and correcting it is far real than what should have happened (ideal)

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Well agree to most of your points - my wishlist was little more realism and little less drama.
- Dev comes to wish Sona n realize he can't see her with anyone else and leave and then drink in isolation.

- I so wanted Sona to call off the engagement before the ceremony but offcourse like everywhere else, some drama needs to be added. Now tomm either Ritwick will back off or Sona will come back and apologise n then call off . Whatever it is but two families are getting humiliated publicly. I agree Sona's family so desperately wanted her to forget Dev and move on but she was given ample opportunity by Bijoy, Asha, Ritwick to back off from the relationship but I guess she had a point to prove that she is strong enough.

- Dev should have apologized to Bijoy and Asha as he was meeting them first time after breakup. If he calls Bijoy as Baba when he talks about him with Sona and Sourav, then he should have realized how badly he has hurt Sona's baba. Apology was much needed.

- Drinking n passing out was completely devdas act...Promo was misleading. Why we needed repeat of Dev drinking? Why didn't Sona stop him from drinking or ask him to leave

I loved the emotional scenes , Dev writing the letter, Sona dreaming about Dev n Dixit sisters finally show some concern for their brother who have been completely sidelined since the breakup.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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That was pretty much my wish list as well. But drama to CVs ka purana gaana hai... Without it, CVs can't run a show...

Originally posted by: randommusings

Well agree to most of your points - my wishlist was little more realism and little less drama.

- Dev comes to wish Sona n realize he can't see her with anyone else and leave and then drink in isolation.

- I so wanted Sona to call off the engagement before the ceremony but offcourse like everywhere else, some drama needs to be added. Now tomm either Ritwick will back off or Sona will come back and apologise n then call off . Whatever it is but two families are getting humiliated publicly. I agree Sona's family so desperately wanted her to forget Dev and move on but she was given ample opportunity by Bijoy, Asha, Ritwick to back off from the relationship but I guess she had a point to prove that she is strong enough.

- Dev should have apologized to Bijoy and Asha as he was meeting them first time after breakup. If he calls Bijoy as Baba when he talks about him with Sona and Sourav, then he should have realized how badly he has hurt Sona's baba. Apology was much needed.

- Drinking n passing out was completely devdas act...Promo was misleading. Why we needed repeat of Dev drinking? Why didn't Sona stop him from drinking or ask him to leave

I loved the emotional scenes , Dev writing the letter, Sona dreaming about Dev n Dixit sisters finally show some concern for their brother who have been completely sidelined since the breakup.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Great write up as always
My two cents worth
I took a gamble expecting reality based on the promo
Lost that one
Took a gamble expecting a Dev who will be redeemed
Lost that one
Took a gamble expecting a strong female lead
Lost that one
All in all I lost all my Chips and Money in a gamble called Kuch Rang
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Yes, all the characters acted stupid, but I still loved the episode with all its drama, because it felt very human. I still can't get over Dev's letter. Something about writing a letter is so romantic! I loved Sona's dream as well. It showed how much she wanted Dev to steal her away from this quagmire she put herself in.
Even the most sorted people make mistakes under extreme duress. One boy I know, is very obedient and composed, but he didn't inform his parents about his love affair with a coworker until his marriage was almost finalized with another girl( who happens to be my husband's relative ). I think a lot of kids have the fear of disappointing their parents, which makes them be too hard on themselves. I am glad he mustered courage, though at the nth minute. Now he is happily engaged to his love. Of course his parents still feel bad about breaking the alliance with the other girl, which spoiled their friendship with her family and to top it off, their son's love is from a different culture, but they will eventually get over it. It made me so happy to see this young couple dancing away with twinkling eyes on their engagement. The other girl is also getting married soon. After all, happiness is as important as honor, if not more.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: dsr11

Yes, all the characters acted stupid, but I still loved the episode with all its drama, because it felt very human. I still can't get over Dev's letter. Something about writing a letter is so romantic! I loved Sona's dream as well. It showed how much she wanted Dev to steal her away from this quagmire she put herself in.

Even the most sorted people make mistakes under extreme duress. One boy I know, is very obedient and composed, but he didn't inform his parents about his love affair with a coworker until his marriage was almost finalized with another girl( who happens to be my husband's relative ). I think a lot of kids have the fear of disappointing their parents, which makes them be too hard on themselves. I am glad he mustered courage, though at the nth minute. Now he is happily engaged to his love. Of course his parents still feel bad about breaking the alliance with the other girl, which spoiled their friendship with her family and to top it off, their son's love is from a different culture, but they will eventually get over it. It made me so happy to see this young couple dancing away with twinkling eyes on their engagement. The other girl is also getting married soon. After all, happiness is as important as honor, if not more.


People don't realise that a person can't survive without honour (some people are just spineless to understand honour).

1. Will sona have the same respect from Ish and not so relevant GKB?
2. Will dev get the same respect from Bijoy and asha - they may accept him but what he did leaves a deep scar not easy to vanish
3. Will the honour of R and his father can be brought back after this humiliation. I think R shouldn't have agreed to marry at the first place.

In fact no girl / guy should agree to marry a person who has an ex and is still in love.😆😆😆

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: NBT-BV


People don't realise that a person can't survive without honour (some people are just spineless to understand honour).

1. Will sona have the same respect from Ish and not so relevant GKB?
2. Will dev get the same respect from Bijoy and asha - they may accept him but what he did leaves a deep scar not easy to vanish
3. Will the honour of R and his father can be brought back after this humiliation. I think R shouldn't have agreed to marry at the first place.

In fact no girl / guy should agree to marry a person who has an ex and is still in love.😆😆😆

I am a person who thinks that people shouldn't be obsessed about whether someone else respects them enough or not. We should just try to do the best we can in a given situation. We are not always perfect and that's okay with me. Nobody intentionally tries to hurt anybody, but mistakes happen. Blunders happen when people think too much about family honor when they should be actually thinking about what makes them happy. That's what happened with Dev and Sona.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Exactly.

Happiness is probably the most important thing in life. We all want to be happy. But without honour, can you truly be happy?

If every time you walk out the door and people point their fingers at you and your family, can you be happy?

If you betrayed someone for your happiness, can you be happy?

Let's take a situation of say one of a married couple has an extra-marital affair. The person having the affair is claiming that he or she chose his or her happiness and cliches like everything is fair in love and war. But they obviously did not behave with honour to the person they made a commitment to.

Do you think that person is justified because they chose happiness over honour?

So no. When you make a commitment, your word is your bond. And when someone trusts you, they are depending on your integrity to keep that word.

But when that trust is broken, it's hurtful and it also impacts your trustworthiness.

Dev treated Sona as badly as Sona treated her and her fiance's family. Both made commitment they were not capable of making or keeping.

Dev should have stayed away from Sona's engagement knowing that he is weak and Sona should have denied Dev to come to her engagement knowing how she felt when Dev was getting engaged to Natasha. She has gone through the pain, she should not have subjected him to it nor Ritwik and his family the insult having her ex show up in her engagement party.

Both have used each other and other people. I don't find it a particularly honourable behaviour. I know people behave like this all the time in real life and "my word is my bond" kind of people are scarce in this day and age. But at least having some decency is not too much to ask.

Originally posted by: NBT-BV


People don't realise that a person can't survive without honour (some people are just spineless to understand honour).

1. Will sona have the same respect from Ish and not so relevant GKB?
2. Will dev get the same respect from Bijoy and asha - they may accept him but what he did leaves a deep scar not easy to vanish
3. Will the honour of R and his father can be brought back after this humiliation. I think R shouldn't have agreed to marry at the first place.

In fact no girl / guy should agree to marry a person who has an ex and is still in love.😆😆😆

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Posted: 9 years ago
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I was not talking about family honour. I was talking about one's own personal honour. Sona wasn't pressured to get married. Every single decision was her own. Ritwik tried to stop her, Asha tried to stop her, but she didn't listen.

If Sona had stopped her engagement without inviting Dev, on the day of the engagement, I'd have applauded her. But she just humiliated everyone by letting Dev come in and Dev didn't keep his word of "Kuch galat nehin karunga". How much wrong could he have done?

How he would have reacted if Sona had shown up at his home drunk in Nikki's wedding and created a scene? Would he forgive and forget his mother's insult so soon?

Again, family's honour depends on the entire family. As long as they are together, they can restore it. I care more about personal honour because the only one responsible for it is oneself, no one else. Your own behaviour dictates your honour.

Originally posted by: dsr11

I am a person who thinks that people shouldn't be obsessed about whether someone else respects them enough or not. We should just try to do the best we can in a given situation. We are not always perfect and that's okay with me. Nobody intentionally tries to hurt anybody, but mistakes happen. Blunders happen when people think too much about family honor when they should be actually thinking about what makes them happy. That's what happened with Dev and Sona.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Perfect post and analysis.
Even I felt that both of them were playing a game sub consciously. Dev knew that Sona can't see him in pain beyond a point and Sona was hoping that her getting engaged to someone will make Dev man up and take a stand for them

Lot of our decisions are affected by our sub conscious thought process and we are not even aware of it.

So ultimately Dev and Sona are going to emerge winners with a whole lot of casualties in the process. Dev at least is going to be remorseless because that is the way Ishwari has conditioned him. I want at least Sonakshi to understand the collateral damage she has caused

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