No redemption track for Dev??? Updated *DT Note PG-26*

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gemini54

@gemini54

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Posted: 8 years ago

#51

My two cents worth...not that I am watching this crapfest

Dev the ML..can be a douche bag, a jerk and spineless...but come on he is the Hero and hero does not need to redeem

Sona the FL that we thought was strong...delusional much ...she is the sacrificing female lead who will love the jerk ML no matter what because she is Mahaan...pukeworthy

Easwari the villain of the plot who will remain so till last episode then all is well...hmmm this is soap reality

The audience (some of us) who feel this is retarded can take a hike because after all in a convoluted way this is the first promo or second or third or who knows what

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KK84

@KK84

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Posted: 8 years ago

#52

Originally posted by: bookworm123

After the brutal break up, he did not say "sorry" even once to her. Yes, he did acknowledge that he was acting crazy, stalking etc. Once again he was focused on himself and had to be shown the reality by Sona and Ritvik.

Fine, if his characterization is such that he needs Sona to "take care" of him..I will go with that...

Does she not even deserve a sorry? Do the CVS not feel he had a responsibility to find a middle path before giving up? So he never needs to apologize for not trying, for hurting her? It has become about - we are now in this together...

Their acting was very touching and this scene would have been very very lovely if the break up was amicable. By making the breaking up somewhat brutal I thought the CVs were planning a track in which he would redeem himself and win her over, was I wrong??

I think he will say sorry the day he realises whatever mother dearest has done has been intentional. Even if Sona agrees to go back to him, her family will not so I think redemption will happen one way or another!

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Curlyhairdiary

@Curlyhairdiary

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

#53

Originally posted by: rose4ever

You wrote exactly how I am feeling right now. Confused.Dev-Sonakshi scene was so heart touching. Dev himself admits that he feels like a dirty stalker. I felt bad for him in that scene epecially when he says tumhe khud se kaise alag karun jab hum ek hain. So much so that I was expecting a gut wrenching, crying hug between them.
But, as a woman, I feel cheated too. So many thoughtless actions , crazy and demeaning acts, disrespect and disregard for Sonakshi and her family, such blind devotion towards his mother that he never even questions her. and no redemption?Not even a simple Sorry?That's just not acceptable.
You are not the only one to pay attention to Ritik's scene. His maturity and sweetness deserves a mention and applaud. At that moment I really agreed with what Sona said, that she is lucky to have him in her life.I just hope she doesn't end up hurting him

Thank you😊

I swear, I was so sure there was going to be a hug!! But

I dunno I was somehow reminded of the sequence between ranbir and deepika in YJHD when they hug each other and she tells him that he has to let go, as they both love each other but aren't strong enough to do justice to the words 'I love you' and ranbir begs for 5 more seconds, he is unable to let her go. A scene like that would have further enhanced that moment I think.

Exactly. A simple sorry is what we wanted. Is it too much to ask? He did a good thing by acknowledging his mistakes. But what next? Acknowledgement is not going to make anything right between them. Somehow I can't reconcile this Dev to the Dev in the promo. I'm actually dreading the mahaepisode. If they pull off anything preposterous once again, I'm afraid it's gonna be the end of the journey for me with regard to this show.

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Curlyhairdiary

@Curlyhairdiary

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Posted: 8 years ago

#54

Originally posted by: bookworm123

P.S -loved your post above

Sorry for the late response, I had a headache last night so couldn't stay up and be part of this super discussion.

Actually, this is how the break up should have happened. They should've cried together about Ishwari and reached the conclusion that parting ways is the only option left. They needed to reach this conclusion together, with Dev unable to let Sonakshi go and then showing how Sonakshi is strong enough for both of them and how she still supports him.

I saw the episode again just now and also read the various threads on the forum. It seems we're the only select few who are still begging for a redemption track. Apparently Dev's redemption was done last night, when he cried and told her how much he misses her. How to be a jerk bf and then win over your lady 101- Dev Dixit style.

Did you notice Sonakshi''s face when R asked Dev to marry her? She almost looked hopeful. Dev not saying a word to that probably cemented her belief that he's never ever going to fight for her. And probably mine too.

I somehow can't reconcile the Dev from yesterday to the Dev they showed in the promo. Yesterday I genuinely felt bad for him and I was repulsed watching him in the promo.

Also, Dev fainting is probably the worst idea they could come up with. It would have made more sense to me if Sonakshi fainted. Due to the emotional stress, pressure, pain of watching Dev stand there with a brave face on. That's what I wanted. Dev just putting on a brave face and standing stoically when she tries to get engaged to R, for once thinking about her needs more than his own. His eyes would've conveyed the pain he's in, I can trust Shaheer on that. Then Sonakshi fainting and Dev losing it and trying to revive her and R and the rest of the family understanding just how much they love each other... Something like that.

I wanted to write an OS on this, but honestly, I just don't feel inclined to do so right now. I'm just really upset with the way things turned out.

I think it's time I started watching Kaisi yeh yaariyan, like you recommended. I'm giving this a week, if they pull off anything preposterous in the mahaepisode I'm afraid it's going to be the end of the journey for me with regard to this show.

I can't seem to make peace with the fact that they brought us to the first promo by taking the most convoluted route imaginable.

P.S : Thank you😊 I loved all of your responses to the various insightful comments made on this thread.

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taara113

@taara113

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Posted: 8 years ago

#55

@malvika...i too was sooo wanting a hug...when he said ek akhri baar milna something...i was likee ab ab ab...alas...ooh n dat yjhd scene...its my most favorite, i watched it like innumerable times...wen says bas 2 min aur...im just stuck der...it just too good...

Coming to the point of the post...i think i must hv been the first one to read it yest...and finally thought id comment something abt the shw but den got busy...the first thing that came to mind yest was that balance sheet thing...how relationships can't be balanced... and i think @Perk in her post explained it better than i cld hv evr done...

U fight with anyone...frnds parents strangers...u hv a list of things u want to hear...a list why the other person was wrong at every point...and then u just meet...der r random words...some looks... sometimes just silence and things just get back to normal... without explanations being made the other person understands... what can be unhealthy is wen u forgive without understanding and emotions keep on getting build up...what might maybe happen between dev n ishwari fr sometime in the future...

But with dev n sona... they understand where the other person is coming frm...in devs dialogues yest one cld feel he knws wat he is dng is wrong but just can't control...he is overpowered by his emotions...which in noway justifies wat he does but somehow u can feel fr him...

Both of them at that moment cld not sit and play blame game of how they were wronged or whoes chance is it to say sorry...those sorries may not hv been said but they were felt...he was sorry fr his act...she was sorry fr his state...or maybe they were not but that's wat i felt...nt sure if i cld put across my thoughts clear but i hope something went across

Also i do regularly go thru all the interesting conversations u guys hv and they are all pretty interesting...i loved dat product analogy which i think @Arch drew and that i moment i thought to myself...when has ever a product commercial anyways lived upto wat they promised in the ad... anyways i absolutely loved that first pen promo... though i watched it very late wen i strted watching the show midway...n iv watched the promo innumerable times...it was just so good...but bng a regular at watching tv shows...i nvr really expect promos to turn into reality...plus however much v liked d promo im nt sure if that plot wld hv given dem material to run into multiple episodes...it was to sorted somewhere...good fr a 10 day series maybe not a yr long show...they will hv to spend time on some build ...and plus nthn sells like angst and hero ki tadap and aasoon so that had to happen...rt or wrong, i don't get into dat but i was absolutely sure on its occurence...

Talking of reality... fiction shows can't be reality... sometimes we get lucky and dey pick up the rt elements of projecting moments frm d real world..., reactions, actions can look n feel real at times but not always...

Who amongst us has known a dev dikshit in the exact way...how can v possibly say wats his reality...v only know our own and v try fitting it into der lives...i enjoy the convenience of the remote...till the time they make me happy i watch wen i get bored i change but i can't classify them aa right, wrong, real, unreal...iv not made dem...i wld never know dem dat well to comment on it...can only say wat i feel in those moments...

Ufff... wen i start talking it gets really difficult fr me to stop...dats why i refrain from discussions here...khatam hee nahi hote...

Was just trying to put across my POV (i hope it did make some sense)

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Curlyhairdiary

@Curlyhairdiary

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

#56

Originally posted by: taara113
@malvika...i too was sooo wanting a hug...when he said ek akhri baar milna something...i was likee ab ab ab...alas...ooh n dat yjhd scene...its my most favorite, i watched it like innumerable times...wen says bas 2 min aur...im just stuck der...it just too good...
Coming to the point of the post...i think i must hv been the first one to read it yest...and finally thought id comment something abt the shw but den got busy...the first thing that came to mind yest was that balance sheet thing...how relationships can't be balanced... and i think @Perk in her post explained it better than i cld hv evr done...

U fight with anyone...frnds parents strangers...u hv a list of things u want to hear...a list why the other person was wrong at every point...and then u just meet...der r random words...some looks... sometimes just silence and things just get back to normal... without explanations being made the other person understands... what can be unhealthy is wen u forgive without understanding and emotions keep on getting build up...what might maybe happen between dev n ishwari fr sometime in the future...
But with dev n sona... they understand where the other person is coming frm...in devs dialogues yest one cld feel he knws wat he is dng is wrong but just can't control...he is overpowered by his emotions...which in noway justifies wat he does but somehow u can feel fr him...
Both of them at that moment cld not sit and play blame game of how they were wronged or whoes chance is it to say sorry...those sorries may not hv been said but they were felt...he was sorry fr his act...she was sorry fr his state...or maybe they were not but that's wat i felt...nt sure if i cld put across my thoughts clear but i hope something went across

Also i do regularly go thru all the interesting conversations u guys hv and they are all pretty interesting...i loved dat product analogy which i think @Arch drew and that i moment i thought to myself...when has ever a product commercial anyways lived upto wat they promised in the ad... anyways i absolutely loved that first pen promo... though i watched it very late wen i strted watching the show midway...n iv watched the promo innumerable times...it was just so good...but bng a regular at watching tv shows...i nvr really expect promos to turn into reality...plus however much v liked d promo im nt sure if that plot wld hv given dem material to run into multiple episodes...it was to sorted somewhere...good fr a 10 day series maybe not a yr long show...they will hv to spend time on some build ...and plus nthn sells like angst and hero ki tadap and aasoon so that had to happen...rt or wrong, i don't get into dat but i was absolutely sure on its occurence...

Talking of reality... fiction shows can't be reality... sometimes we get lucky and dey pick up the rt elements of projecting moments frm d real world..., reactions, actions can look n feel real at times but not always...
Who amongst us has known a dev dikshit in the exact way...how can v possibly say wats his reality...v only know our own and v try fitting it into der lives...i enjoy the convenience of the remote...till the time they make me happy i watch wen i get bored i change but i can't classify them aa right, wrong, real, unreal...iv not made dem...i wld never know dem dat well to comment on it...can only say wat i feel in those moments...

Ufff... wen i start talking it gets really difficult fr me to stop...dats why i refrain from discussions here...khatam hee nahi hote...

Was just trying to put across my POV (i hope it did make some sense)

Lovely to see you here! 🤗

You do make a lot of sense. I specially loved the balance sheet analog. It's true, relationships can't be perfect all the time. Someone has to be the bigger person. I guess it just hurts sometimes to know that it's always Sonakshi who has to be that person.

I almost cried watching yesterday's episode, and that's saying something coz I usually never cry watching emotional scenes. The pain in Dev's voice, his helplessness was heartbreaking. And I'm a sucker for angst so it was right up my alley. But the point of this post that bookworm made was I think to highlight that Dev still does need to work on certain things, he has to learn to balance both the ladies in his life. There's just no escaping it. It's the only way out. Once he acknowledges this, we will be the first people to stand by him in his struggle and support him.

The best part that you made me realize is, this is a fictional show after all, I just sometimes get so invested in it that I forget it's just a show! I totally agree with you, the promos were so so good that I wasn't able to digest the approach they've taken to make us reach this stage.

Yesterday's episode was heartbreaking is a given. It made people like me, who've always been very critical of Dev to actually feel very very bad for him. The only thing I want now is, they should not forget to redeem his character, bring back a Dev Dixit who knows what he wants and will win over his girl, own up to his shit and for once, stand up to his inner demons, also known as his mother.

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taara113

@taara113

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Posted: 8 years ago

#57

Also just out of curiosity...what exactly does as a viewer one mean by a redemption track... like wat will they be doing in that...how will he redeem...Im just trying to understand what can possibly happen if dey actually invest in redeeming dev...and im genuinely asking...not meant to offend anyone...

Bcz if it means having a conversation ovr it...v may sometime get dat given d demand...its a show...dey keep changing tracks anyways...

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taara113

@taara113

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Posted: 8 years ago

#58

Originally posted by: Malvika07

Lovely to see you here! 🤗
You do make a lot of sense. I specially loved the balance sheet analog. It's true, relationships can't be perfect all the time. Someone has to be the bigger person. I guess it just hurts sometimes to know that it's always Sonakshi who has to be that person.
I almost cried watching yesterday's episode, and that's saying something coz I usually never cry watching emotional scenes. The pain in Dev's voice, his helplessness was heartbreaking. And I'm a sucker for angst so it was right up my alley. But the point of this post that bookworm made was I think to highlight that Dev still does need to work on certain things, he has to learn to balance both the ladies in his life. There's just no escaping it. It's the only way out. Once he acknowledges this, we will be the first people to stand by him in his struggle and support him.
The best part that you made me realize is, this is a fictional show after all, I just sometimes get so invested in it that I forget it's just a show! I totally agree with you, the promos were so so good that I wasn't able to digest the approach they've taken to make us reach this stage.
Yesterday's episode was heartbreaking is a given. It made people like me, who've always been very critical of Dev to actually feel very very bad for him. The only thing I want now is, they should not forget to redeem his character, bring back a Dev Dixit who knows what he wants and will win over his girl, own up to his shit and for once, stand up to his inner demons, also known as his mother.

@bold...but if he already know how to balance...what was the point of the show...isnt the stry all abt how he reaches that point...bcz once he is there...convincing ishwari cannot be stretched much...but angst and break-up hv great potentially at being stretched...and indeed there is no escaping it...but escaping somehow is a very natural first reaction and then ppl come out of it...d only sad thing which cld happen is ishwari on her own understands and we end der...but kuch bhi ho sakta hai...so i wont be surprised if that happens to, il be disappointed though...

@blue...someday dey will bring him back, dey wont end before that i believe...rt now if he cannot know wat he wants...there has to be a build-up to dat...point being fr how long is one ready to wait for dev to stand up and face things...who can wait fr longer...will sit n watch...

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pkbdas61

@pkbdas61

Dazzler

Posted: 8 years ago

#59

the good thing about life is that it is like a prism and just like the prism it can have many views, with each view presenting a different kaleidoscope of wonderful colors. Your view is one and very much valid

however i fail to understand the need for a redemption track. If in love we start keeping balance sheets ( (just like Sona uses this phrase so beautifully many times) of good and bad, it is no more love. At least not as i have seen and experienced it. If one were to expect this kind of a balance sheet, they better not be in love. It is more a business relationship.

love is forgiving, love is kind, love is understanding, love is patient... i can keep on adding to its virtues. What love can do, nothing else can do. If we want to win someone over, we do not need to remind them of what wrong they have done. if they recognize it themselves, and they do not have to say it, it is fine. it is felt with the heart.

Here is my view - Dev said it today.. those emotional dialogues were more than "redemption". it was an awakening.. that even Sona heard and it was felt with her heart. Now here comes the beauty of love, it instantly forgives. it sounds so easy to state, and even hard to digest, but is best experienced.

I have been hurt and i have caused hurt before - all when in love. I have been forgiven and i have also forgiven - all when in love. i have never felt the need for a redemption process. left it to the heart. i am sure there will be many who will want to pounce on me but i have stated what i have experienced. So please excuse me.

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Curlyhairdiary

@Curlyhairdiary

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

#60

Originally posted by: taara113
Also just out of curiosity...what exactly does as a viewer one mean by a redemption track... like wat will they be doing in that...how will he redeem...Im just trying to understand what can possibly happen if dey actually invest in redeeming dev...and im genuinely asking...not meant to offend anyone...
Bcz if it means having a conversation ovr it...v may sometime get dat given d demand...its a show...dey keep changing tracks anyways...

For me personally, redemption would mean standing up to his mother. I'm not expecting him to yell at her or disrepect her. But try to talk to her, try to understand her insecurities, why she feels that way, Dev is still a long way from even addressing Ishwari's securities, let alone understanding or overcoming them. Once that happens, he will not have to apologize to Sonakshi. His actions would speak louder than words.

I keep talking about the promo again and again. It's because whatever havoc Dev plans on wrecking, Sonakshi and her family are the ones who are going to have to bear it's brunt. Dev's mother will be sitting at home basking in her denial and feeling very happy for herself. Isn't it even a little bit unfair?

All of this will happen over time, that's the basic premise. Like you said, he has to reach there at one point. I'm just not sure if the approach they are adopting, the extra drama I'm talking about, not yesterday's heart touching scene, is something that I'm onboard with. Hope I made some sense :)