24/25 aug '09: big things, little things

ouch, ouch, ouch!!! what was that show today?? i mean... c'mon! what was it?? seriously, the people putting this stuff together have reached the lowest that ... uh ... i can imagine. i have no idea how i'm gonna watch tomorrow's episode. really. 😛 *well, other than sitting with a sulking face, and peering out from behind my hands held in front of my face... 😆*

24 aug

* little thing: ewwwwww, glob! first thing in the show, on the first day of the week!

isn't that kinda like an abshagun-thingie, or s'thing? 😆

and since when has she friends called ''kokila-ben''? *gujarati name -- in the middle of punjabi land.and a friend of the glob's! totally fishy, donchya think?? are they also foreign returned?? 😆 😆*

**glob -- new name for something that used to be called gayatri-mom at the start of the show. *sigh* i really need to stop watching this show...

* little thing: y'know when prem came in all dark-browed, what really make me feel sad was actually watching the misery on the glob's countenance.

this glob was no longer the person who sees to the heart of prem's sorrow -- like remember the day that he came back from ''rescuing heer from jail'' and she knew why he was drunk? instead, she is looking for ways to prevent his misery -- by using things that make her happy.

and it made me feel totally .. bleagh.

* little thing: hmmm. hyper hip-hop gi-it acting all coy and me-wants-to-be-your-daughter-in-law in front of the glob.

seriously. don't you wish that gi-it is a really smart person who is doing all this to get prem-heer-together-forever? 'cause then, her entire ''act'' would be sooooo worthwhile.

* little thing: has anyone noticed that the new actor playing harman has got ... very strangely placed nostrils?? i mean, *no, no, wait! hear me out!! 🤣* no matter how the camera is angled at him -- you can always see these daaaark holes in the middle of his face. which are not his eyes! 🤣 really. very strange nostrils. standing up and saying ''here we are! here we are!'' all the time.. 🤣

* litle thing: so prem noticed the glob biting meher's head off, and thinks glob's just troubled by some problem? 😕

er... 'kay. maybe it's 'cause he thinks that globs can't have teeth??

and then immediately wants to run away to hide in his room, when he sees the gi-it. *smart prem.. 😆*

* little thing: *sigh* although, i didn't think he was so smart when his only reaction to glob announcing his engagement to gi-it was ''but... but ... (splutter, splutter)... engagement... (splutter)... so quickly....''

*sigh* where's the guy from can-atta who looked his .. ex-mother glob right in the globby-eyes and told her that he was going to get heer back to be her daughter-in-law (with or without her blessings in subtext)? miss you, prem.. want you back...

* little thing: what creeped me out in the middle of the glob ranting was when she talked to him firmly about ''duniya-daari. nibhana padega.'' 🤢

* little thing: must confess though. when she gloated that nothing would stop this prem-gi-it relationship would go through, i was gloating as fiercely: prem-heer-are-one, glob! take that into your gullet and set it alight! ha!

* little thing: heer is soooo obsessed with the idea that prem will do anything to get her back into his life, no?😆 i mean, the only reason she thinks that prem could be behind the custody is 'cause she thinks it's yet another way for him to persuade her to get back to him. not that it is not true -- ie, that prem will do anything to get her back.

heer... 😆 he wants both of you back, not just you. 😆 why are you so intent on not going back to prem??

but i did like how heer has trust in prem that he wouldn't lie to her about not wanting to take custody of the phukda. pity she doesn't have the imagination to think that others who she used to consider ''her apna'' would do the kinda of things that she would consider of prem... *sigh*

* heer-phukda thing: she is panicking about who could be trying to get custody of phukda. but she has the presence of mind enough to smile at her daughter when she returns with a kiss.

* phukda thing: *sigh* seriously, the child is the mother of ... the girl. everything that she said to heer today was all a bit of a scold. ''you were at home, how come you didn't pick me up?'' ''these days you just get up and walk away also??''

seriously! prem should take lessons from his daughter on how to handle heer! she is such a heer-master! 😆

* little thing: seriously, do we have to be bored to death with glob and glob-lawyer discussions? can't they talk on phone with each other or s'thing?

that face that glob-lawyer made when glob triumphantly told him that a mother was fighting heer-as-mother made me splutter my gatorade right up my nose! sheee. *ever had ice-gatorade go up your nose?? not pretty! not at all!*

* little thing: so... they have prem's signature on the custody papers. why did the glob-lawyer need a copy of heer's signature and her photograph?

to sign the custody papers if heer didn't agree to do it herself?? hmmmmm!

* little thing: btw. why, oh why, is glob not concerned about prem and heer being still married?

* little thing: heer brushing past glob and her fake concerns -- go heer!

but *sigh* glob managed to get her away from the house before she gets to meet prem anyway... why? why does evil always apparently win so many small battles against the (duffer) good?? why?

* prem thing: oooh. prem brooding over heer and ludhiana... ooh. i love prem-heer-and-ludhiana, i've decided... 😍

and the ooooh-est of 'em all -- when he hears heer's voice, the winds puff up his hair!!!!! *oooooooooh! i have soooo been missing that.😍 *

prem! by now, you should have known that a mere ''brahm'' of yours couldn't have made the winds puff up your hair! run out of that house, prem, run!

*sigh* i guess prem's gone a little rusty on heer-effects -- never mind. but next time -- mind it! 😆

* prem voice thing: ooooooh. he said ''heer? heer??!''

have i mentioned i love prem saying heer?? 😍

* little thing: glob is so evil! prem's steps faltered as she is trying to yank him away from the door. he looked back with such longing. and yet, that pile of putrid decaying flesh doesn't have the heart to feel pity for this guy... 😛

* little thing: ooooh! heer phinally discovers that she is living in the world of cellphones - and calls prem on his!!!

go heer! 🤣

* heer thing: but awwww! she is sure that talking to prem will make things all better.
*sigh* heer. why the heck are you fighting prem so hard to keep him away?? why do you insist on always making prem's life difficult? 😆

* little thing: so. more than prem and heer feeling each other, reading each other's thoughts, it's actually glob who feels/reads them best??

no really. i got phreaked out!

she goes around thinking things like ''heer ki bachchi'' 😡 and figures heer will call, even when prem can't ''hear'' heer thinking ''please prem, pick up the phone''.

* little thing: stoopily-funniest line in the show ever. glob wondering where prem's phone is and thinking ''omg! could prem's phone be ... with prem??'

bwaaaahahahahahahahahahaha!

what a shocking thought! that a guy's phone is .. with the guy! 🤣

* phukda thing: seriously, she is a granny of a child! 😆 but i guess, if she is prem-heer ka tukda, who has been watching her mother make a living out of match-making, that's where she picked up speaking like that? 😆

but where she really rocked was in the little sharing-secrets moment with gi-it. how sweetly she described her mother going ballistic when the name prem-juneja comes up. 😆 i really did want her to answer gi-it's question though: ''how do you know so much about prem juneja?'' it'd have been interesting seeing gi-it's reaction to that...

* little thing: gi-it and phukda turning to smile at heer. i liked how that made heer fight to bring a smile to her face.

* big thing: personally, i think the entire attempt of the story to try to make heer the character who wants to keep prem-heer apart, hilarious. and then, when they try to have heer also

1. struggle to keep prem-phukda apart and at the same time, s
2. have her ''best friend'' from getting her heart smashed to little bits by prem. 'cause, despite everything she says, heer just knows would never love anyone but her!,
3. all the while trying to keep from both phukda and gi-it that prem juneja is ''her'' prem juneja

the mess is indescribably, unbelieveably huge!

y'know what i'd really like to know? i'd really like to know why they are developing the story like this.

they already had one brush of trying to take the story forward where they made prem behave in weird anti-heer kinda ways, and that stretched credulity so much that ... it was unbelievable.

and now they are trying the same thing -- with heer??

er.. what am i missing here? other than the fact that they appear to be deliberately ruining a story?

* little thing: 😆 so who else was laughing their heads off when heer thought and thought and thought and finally brought up the ultimate threat to make gi-it stop wiht her marriage with prem attempts. ''choose between prem or me.''

heer, beta. such kinds of threats work when no-heart-ed globs do it on prem and you. in the real world, with real people like hip-hop gi-it, they know how to twist you around their little finger and get out of making any such deal.

seriously, that was so ... funny. 'specially in how gi-it didn't even consider it for a moment! 😆

* little thing: phukda and gi-it can seriously get heer to do anything, no?

now heer is going chasing after prem to ludhiana. 😍

* big thing: 'kay, while i was rather bored through most of the episode, i must admit, the last line where heer said that she would not go to ludhiana to see prem through gi-it's eyes, but instead make gi-it see prem through her eyes, i started laughing with utmost joy!

how can heer ''make gi-it see the prem of heer's eyes''? someone who loves her to death. but also someone who she claims will be okay with spendingnightswithotherwomen?

how, oh how, can heer set this up?? 'cause she knows that prem will not be ... uh ... persuaded to do anything with any other woman. *yes, she knows that, damnit! fierce muh* so the only way she can do it is ... *drumroll!* ... to seduce prem herself!🤣

and .. uh .. maybe get gi-it to catch that! no? no??! ha!

man! i am sooooo gonna love it if she does something like that! 'cause you know, and i know, that whenever prem and heer try any such funny schemes, it never quite works out. well, for them. but perhaps, perfectly for us??! wooo hooo! 🤣

*dreaming over all the phantasies that i have been piled up in my head since i've started destroying my brain with prem-heer-are-one.. and wondering which of those phantasies will come true... huge, huge sigh*

highlight of the episode: the winds puffing up prem's hair when he was thinking about ludhiana and heer. the way he called out to her when he thought he heard her voice... ''heer?!'' 😍

(sorry i didn't put up the bt,lt yesterday -- if.com hated me a whole lot yesterday in particular! 😕)

25 aug

* little thing: hmmm! so prem went to ludhiana alone! quiet rebellion against glob, prem?

quiet, maybe.
but rebellion, tho sahi! 😆

go prem, go! woot-woot!!!

* prem-heer thing: maybe i should've said prem-heer-and-gajra thing? 😍

is funny. but soaps (soaps1) favourite phhandooh was the moment in the train to ajmer dargah when prem bought gajra for heer and threaded it into her hair.


'twas sooo sweet to see this flashback of prem and heer.

y'know? the last time i remember heer in that dress, she was soooooo mad at prem (who she thought was gaurav sharma at the time) for getting drunk before a pooja... and now? 😍

*btw. does anyone else confused about how big prem is compared to heer -- or not? 'cause sometimes she looks tiny! like in this flashback. while other flashbacks, they look much better matched? ya, ya, i know. i need to stop thinking 'bout these two so much. and get some sleep instead... 😆*

what was sweetest was how prem and heer had the same flashback at the same time.
how? how can heer even imagine that prem and heer can live apart? how?? *shaking my head at duffer heer...*

* prem thing: omg. ''if heer was with me today, i'd take her away forever -- and dress her hair with flowers with my own hands...'' ai hai, mar jawaaan... 😍

* prem voice thing: 😆 ''madam''. 😆 the way he said ''madam'' was sooooo... round-round and funneeee.

* from now on, when i say ''mod-am khushi'' ka mod-am, i'm saying it exactly like that... 😆 *

* prem-heer thing: heer is sooo mean - first she looks him in the eyes, all naughty and flirtatious, asking him ''tho?'' and then when he does tell her ''tho?!'' what, shows her ''tho?!'' what -- she stops him!

heer!!! meanie!! 😆

* little thing: seriously, gi-it is soooo perceptive about heer -- she knew that heer was thinking about prem (well, her husband! 😆) when she saw the gajras. and yet, she couldn't see that prem and heer were locked into a little bubble of their own when she had them in front of her own eyes??

seriously! this is totally na-mumkin! er... isn't it??

* little thing: jzoo. yawn. still phrantically trying to call daddy to come save the situation! seriously, why do these people all come across like they are squalling helpless five year olds when faced with a problem??? even phukda is a million times smarter!

* script thing: seriously, the script of this show has become badly inane! *ya, there is inane. and when they get prem-heer to do it, it becomes badly inane! 😆*

people are saying things that don't make sense at all anymore. prem and heer have been doing it for a while now. but i've always thought that was being done deliberately -- to knock us, the audience, out.

i mean, have you noticed that everytime prem speaks, his dialogue is inordinately beautiful?? he's got all these grand lines about love and being in love and foreverness and everything? but put in the context of what he actually does in the story -- and prem usually comes across as a grand-standing lover who can't suit actions to his words. and of course, the same thing has happened often enough to heer as well. it's just that heer didn't get as many ''grand-standing'' lines as prem did.

but now the rest of them are doing it too??!

oh, meher? what was that you said: ''if we knew early enough, we could have arranged for heer didi to be in ludhiana as well!'' hey! if you thought that being in ludhiana was a sure fire solution to the prem-heer problem and getting heer to go would've been that easy, why the heck didn't you do it, a long time ago, anyway??!

and kuldi? excuse me?! if you think that ''gi-it being with prem will not get to be with him. while heer even when being far from prem, is still with him.'' then why do you even want to bother calling pbuaji to the rescue?? why do you keep spouting these stooopid lines if you don't know what they mean?? *slapping head and wanting to kill myself for hurting myself on their behalf!!*

after all, the glob's just on ''some trip'' that you can't understand, right? like she hasn't been on the same damned trip all these damned six years! why are you troubling your pretty little head about that same ''some trip'' now??

i wish they would stop writing scenes for the jzoo if they are just gonna use them to show how perfectly ... sterile and irrelevant these people are! why can't they just have a tsunami in the show just now that makes the entire house fall flat on all the people living in it and .. kill 'em all!??!! that was be sooooooo perfect! 🤣

*man, i miss vibha! she would've ripped this stoooopid episode to shreds!*

* little thing: uh... gi-it landed up in the hotel, checked for prem, finds out that he has left and ... gets upset??

er... gi-it? calm down, wouldja. did you not hear the guy stutter a protest when his mother said that you were to get engaged in three days? do you really need to talk to him to figure out that this is something he would rather not do??

oh sorry! i forgot. you are the one who can't understand prem when he speaks, right? heer is the one who can understand him. sorry. go ahead. get upset. 😆

* estee-head-exploded thing: the last time i got this mad in the post-tls** was when prem told heer that he had been waiting for her to come to him, and then backed off saying ''aaj mein prem juneja...'' *how dare they use those lines, damnit, how dare they??!! 😡*

(** tls: time line shift of six years of separation between prem and heer.)

and today, i blew up again. how can i not? when they mess up with shiv mandir.

shiv mandir, damnit!!!

shiv-mandir is holy prem-heer territory. it is. it has meant so much in this story, in defining things that are prem-heer. it is not just what has happened there -- their meetings and the points in their being one that these meetings have happened.

shiv mandir has defined more intangible, and yet inexorable, things about prem-heer and where their one-ness meets. for me, at least, that mandir setting as their meeting ground set off some very intangible things about prem and heer.

shiv's a god who lives in the highest peaks of the coldest mountain. his sense of being cut-off from everything, even the life that we take for granted -- like trees and grass, birds and bees -- shiv's mountains don't have much of that. the light up in those mountains is not the strong sunlight of the tropics. it is sharp, harsh and cold when it is shining. and most of the time, it is not, 'cause the clouds shadow it more often than not.

and for me, shiv mandir -- and that too at night -- was a perfect background for prem heer meetings. 'cause the stillness of the (first) mandir mirrored the stillness of that is so prem and heer. the darkness of the night emphasised the shadows all around, just like the depths of the love that they have always had for each other. the deadness of the ground, the sense of no other life was so like the sense that they together were the only things alive in the world. there was no-one else. there was just ... prem-and-heer. and their one-ness.

and today? today...!! *trying not to tremble with fierce anger*

i've known that the crew have ''cheated'' before on shiv mandir, even after the first one. the shiv mandir that lalit juneja has been to -- ostensibly the same one! ha! -- was a proper temple. this we got to see twice. but prem-heer's first ever shiv mandir -- oh tremendous scene that it was! -- was like a fort. same place that they met as ''prem-heer-at-shiv-mandir'' the second and the third time. *they just kept shifting the shiv-ling 'round i think.. 😆*

but today?? today was some stoopid platform in the middle of some stooopid studio set. where normally, they probably show marriages and dramatic scenes between the lead pairs in some trite, tired balaji telefilms show.

today, their production team tried to make prem and heer appear like the lead pair in some trite, tired balaji telefilms show.

and i despised them for it. 😒

creatives? producers? directors? of this show?
lend me your ears, as i speak to you: i...


*and btw! the words are not anti-gandhian! so there! but i'm afraid the 😡 is... *

* heer thing: today heer took her ''fight to keep prem away'' to the worst point i could imagine. she looked him in the eye and accused him of lying to her.

seriously, i have never given a rat's ass for anything she has said in her attempt to tear prem away from her side. i've always thought those were very smart-about-prem things that heer uses to push prem away -- for whatever reasons she holds to be true.

but this? this was unacceptable.

both of them know that prem never lies.

the worst part was -- today, they are standing six years apart, with a daughter they do not share and love together 'cause prem refused to base their relationship on a lie.

'cause prem thought he was telling the truth about thenightwithashlesha so that he would never ever have a lie between them ever.

prem never lies. never has. never will.

and today? today heer said that prem lied.

she hasn't even even said that to him when he tried to convince her about muckmeet.

after she found out about muckmeet, she cried and swore that she was infinitely sorry for ever having doubted him.

and today? today heer said that prem lied.

today, i don't really care that heer doesn't really believe that prem can lie. or that she may have some reason to push him away from her forever. heer said that prem lied, to his face.

that was beyond desperately mean. and my heart is breaking like it has never quite felt on this show before... heer. 😭

* prem thing: quite frankly, most of what prem said -- beautifully, movingly -- left me yawning and bored. after all, he has said similar -- beautiful, moving, etc, etc -- stuff before.

today -- once again -- it was the simple thing that he said that got me to pause the hand that was holding the shoe aimed at the tv's off-switch: ''look into my eyes; you say that you can read my eyes. do my eyes lie?''

😲 my shoe dropped unheeded to the floor.

prem. thank you. you got to the heart of her so directly with that, didn't you? at that point, maybe i should've been wondering how deeply your heart and soul must have been wounded for you by her calling you a liar -- of all things, prem! a liar! 😔 you who sacrificed six years (duffer!) by not lying! may i should've been wondering what exactly you were thinking you would achieve by begging her to stop.

but i didn't. you stopped my thoughts 'bout everything -- the deeper question of where prem-heer-are-one are today story, the stooopidity of calling that place ''shiv mandir'', the lack of blue-white light, the sheer flatness, instead of close-up drama, of the camera-work they put in place to capture ''heer looks into prem's eyes'', everything! -- when you asked heer to look into the windows of your soul.

that was ... perfect. thank you, prem. 'cause guess what? she did see the truth, prem, she id!

what made me want to weep a little later was that you didn't hang around to see that she had indeed been able to see into your soul, darling. 'cause isn't it strange? you? the one who has always felt heer the most -- couldn't read the dawning acknowledgement in her eyes that you could never lie. never to her.

i *fiercely* hope you find out soon, prem. 'cause for this one thing that you did, you deserve all the happiness you are fighting for (in your duffer-y way 😆) from heer.

* hc thing: seriously. he has always played prem perfectly. it's one flat plateau of perfection. 😆 recently, he has been playing prem ... picture-perfectly. you look at the surface and it's prem. and that was enough.

but in that one moment of today's show, when prem grabbed heer and asked her to look into his eyes to see the truth, hc got to play prem ... perfectly. reaching a plateau of a new height with just that one moment. ☺️ i watched those eyes be almost fatalistically calm as he looked at her raging eyes, and ask -- almost fatalistically -- with all his control misting his eyes over. and ... marvelled. as i haven't marvelled for a while now.

hc. dude. that was ... *speechless muh reverting to trivial muh* .. er, cool. really. er... high-five? 😆

oh, and one more bit -- prem's voice in that moment was perfect. truly.

he ''asked'' heer. it was not as harsh as a demand. it was not as weepy as a plea.

prem ''asked'' heer. and that voice made all the difference. 😍

hc? thank you. 😊

* big thing: y'know? i watch the show 'cause i believe in prem and heer so much that i knew prem would be back when they told us he was dead. i knew prem wouldn't leave heer even though he kept telling her that he had to. and i believed in these things 'cause heer made me believe.

but it's them who i believe in. prem. and heer. the ones that always used to meet in blue-white light of the night -- never talked -- and yet understood each other perfectly -- knew each other perfectly. yes, it took me a while to believe in them. and i still do. *stubborn muh*

the biggest problem with ''redoing an eternal love story from the start, all over again'' is .. it is not believeable. how can a love be eternal and start from scratch when both people are still alive damnit??! restart can only happen if they both die -- and then re-incarnate or something. and -- like with this story -- they somehow** keep it believeable.

(** somehow, in this case, it is getting hc-ag to play prem-heer... 🤣)

no, it's not the love story that is the problem in this case - it's the rest of it! particularly, the well tried ploy of having evil winning against good in the middle of the love story.

for some reason, they always think that the drama of such shows lie in the triumph of some great evil against some good. if only they could show that often good triumphs against evil.

if only they could try something simpler in the lives of all the characters instead. something more ordinary that knit their lives stronger together, than the hysterical evil, dumb good that we get to see so much -- only on our tv sets. why do i get the feeling that occassionally it might be nice to have a hugely dramatic, forever-after love story, being surrounded by small-ly dramatic, ordinary real love stories? (like -- just an example -- ''destiny'' a ffic by smitha *sshekar*; am sure there are others too... )

is that too much to ask for? 🤔

highlight of the episode: the tears that shimmer in prem's eyes, his ... voice, when he grabs heer and asks her to read the truth in his eyes. that was ... outstanding. what was heart-stopping was to hear heer acknowledge that prem has no artifice in his eyes at all! hmmm! and hah. there was that gajra-wala flashaback... 😍

resereved...have to run to my dotty's school to pick her up...

Originally posted by: riks1

resereved...have to run to my dotty's school to pick her up...

will reply later....

" i'm a better mom than heer....never forget to pick up my dotty from school.....do u think i have a better chance with prem...u know i can take good care of his kids"🤣

🤣🤣🤣 vandana!!!! 🤣🤣🤣

oh ya.

ya, you'll be a great mom.

er... as soon as you can stop thinking about having the kids and start thinking about taking care of 'em??

🤣

(omg! i can't beeeleeeve i just wrote that!!!! you always make me say the most ... uh ... explicit things!!! 🤣🤣🤣)

me me in here....oh phinally....hav some time ...will come bac after reading.... @ vandy - lol.......

Originally posted by: estee

🤣🤣🤣 vandana!!!! 🤣🤣🤣

oh ya.

ya, you'll be a great mom.

er... as soon as you can stop thinking about having the kids and start thinking about taking care of 'em??

🤣

(omg! i can't beeeleeeve i just wrote that!!!! you always make me say the most ... uh ... explicit things!!! 🤣🤣🤣)

🤣

Originally posted by: angel82

me me in here....oh phinally....hav some time ...will come bac after reading.... @ vandy - lol.......

hey angie!! 🤗 all is well? your boy is ... asleep? 😊

waiting to hear what you think -- you may get mad at me. *sigh*

and ya, vandana's a riot... a prem-crazy riot! 😆

hi hreeya! 😃

Originally posted by: estee

🤣🤣🤣 vandana!!!! 🤣🤣🤣

oh ya.

ya, you'll be a great mom.

er... as soon as you can stop thinking about having the kids and start thinking about taking care of 'em??

🤣

(omg! i can't beeeleeeve i just wrote that!!!! you always make me say the most ... uh ... explicit things!!! 🤣🤣🤣)