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Originally posted by: vibha_23
Hi Guys,
Originally posted by: vibha_23
I guess right now the general mood of almost everyone is melancholy and ambigious.
Originally posted by: vibha_23
anyway I was thinking....yes a new concept for me, i know.
Originally posted by: vibha_23
any story when told it starts and then it ends...it has a concept and it starts and it ends.
Originally posted by: vibha_23
I dont know which school did the creatives of KDMHMD went to but they are unaware of this fact.
Originally posted by: vibha_23
1. KDMHMD started out very well, great concept, great story and great cast.
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2. Second big mistake was to bring so many sub plots and then having no idea what to do with it.
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3. Third big mistake was to keep bringing more RAAZ'z...
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4.th Big mistake was not to show prem and heer love develope.....this is supposed to be a love story..
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6.th big mistake is now the creatives have no idea how to bring the story back...
Originally posted by: vibha_23
Hi Guys,
I guess right now the general mood of almost everyone is melancholy and ambigious. Dont blame any of you though coz I am just as bad😉 I keep thinking what the? what the? what the? and then I realised that I was saying it loudly and getting looks from people😲....this is my state of mind...or lack therof....but anyway I was thinking....yes a new concept for me, i know.....that how series of unfortunate events can predict doom.....
Think about it?any story when told it starts and then it ends....look at any big authour or even a movie...it has a concept and it starts and it ends....there are sub plots no doubt but it does not ruin the theme of the story itself...the basic rule of english literature is keep it simple or even stick to basics....I dont know which school did the creatives of KDMHMD went to but they are unaware of this fact.....they have ruined a show that could have possible be the best in the indian cinema...when you are telling a story to a child or even to an adult you dont start with one thing and then make it so complicated that a person wonders why did i ever ask to start with????the sub plots are an important part and i dont deny that...what i deny is you dont make sub plots the main plot.....if you have read james patterson or even shidney sheldon or even oscar wilde for that matter you would know that they have millions of sub plots BUT it never affects the overall story....here the creatives are supposed to be creative...but they are dumbative......no idea where the head starts and leg begins....let me tell you what I THINK went wrong with this show and the MISTAKES NUMBERS:
1. KDMHMD started out very well, great concept, great story and great cast....the first big mistake was to drag Heer's RAAZ........in doing so they ruined the essence of the whole story.....if at that mandap where prem doesnt marry ashlesha, if the raaz was outsed then they would have had many more ways to continue the story....bring out madmeet's raaz at the mandap that way prashant would have revealed QB's treachery and then heer's raaz would have been out....that way 3 things are over and one track is done......the raaz was a big deal no doubt and then the whole QB thing would have been in everyone's face but they could have had heer forgive her chachi(heer is meek anyway) and move on.....
2. Second big mistake was to bring so many sub plots and then having no idea what to do with it.....they brought many new people without having any idea how to manage them......once it was found that madmeet is mad .....finish that track....then complete heer's raaz'z track and then move on to another....when we go to work or even in simple life we dont take 10things in our hand and finish it when we feel like it....when we read a book we dont start with page 25 and to 1 and then to the end....we read it systamatically.....the reason bidaai is so popular is because it runs properly....the raaz and tears are there too but they know how to handle it...first sadhana's raaz to save her family, then that raaz was revealed, then sonia's raaz and then that was revealed and now ragini and ranvir's story...see it starts and it ends...thats how it should be....
3. Third big mistake was to keep bringing more RAAZ'z.....we dont know what happened to madmeet's, heer's,vishkanya's, RR's and then we have nihal's???????????????there was no need for this....we really dont care about it....i know out of all of my friends her almost 85% would agree with me that too many raaz's.......why????this is where the story went all over the place and no direction.....
4.th Big mistake was not to show prem and heer love develope.....this is supposed to be a love story.....so show us that....creatives had a great concept when prem and heer moved out....great ambience but they ruined it there too with that creepy creepy father son love.....they had a month's worth of work with prem and heer love and romance and all but what did they do?????they showed so much of prem and his dad that we all thought what the heck is this????even for fiction it was unberable.....
5.th big mistake was not giving us prem and heer and concentrating on other tracks than no one cared about....when a person watches love story they watch it to see some light moments....if i wanted to see a crying movie i ll watch rudali or something .......i kept watching it because of my friends mel,trivy,sidda, nanadoo di, tuls, E and all but i am not happy.....
6.th big mistake is now the creatives have no idea how to bring the story back........so they have decided to either give us dream sequence or reincarnation track.....again we will watch it coz of HC and AG but do creatives know that my neice who is 6yrs old can say a better story than this???????they are supposed to be creative but they are lost..................
If the would have given us one sub plot or even two at a time and dealt with them first and then bring another sub plots this story would have been on top long time ago...now we are lost, we are angry and we are confused..........yes thats the right word .......CONFUSED!!!!!!!!! who, what, why, how,when...........thats the question we all are asking to each other and no one has any idea of anything.....even when i was watching that very old series Humlog long time ago it had one story and that was finished and then another one....
I am not sure what ekta has in her mind or even she has a mind but she needs to get new creatives....she really does because the current one have no idea of anything and they are playing by the ear...it shouldnt be that way.....
Well friends this was my opinion, what do you all think????all feedback is welcome :) and finally
BRING BACK ADITI GUPTA AND NO NEW HEER OR NEW PREM THAT IS HARSHAD CHOPRA AND ADITI GUPTA ONLY OR TWO NEW PEOPLE
😆 why, why, why does it always feel like i'm the bad egg in the basket?? i'm singing (practically, anyway!) with wonder and awe at today's show! i sat for whole minutes after it ended feeling ... full in my heart. and it wasn't ambiguous at all - i kinda loved it! why, vibha, why??? 😆😆
(well, i must confess -- at least, i did after mom came home and i spent ten minutes in a hug-mom session. i'm sure that she is going to cut off cable-access now -- she's soooo suspicious with all the luuv! 😆)
🤣 you are on a roll!! a new concept!!! for you??? 🤣
but i liked the idea of the topic. and i think you got the whole problem right at the start of your right-up (imho, of course). which is
that is sooooo the key of a great show -- to have a great story! it doesn't matter that it takes a month to tell it, or ten years. the key is there has to be a story.
what i really think goes wrong with all shows on indian tv today is that they start with the story.
then they start taking viewer feedback -- which is fit and proper. but the viewer feedback cannot re-write the story, which is what it looks like happens here!
truth to tell? i used to laugh and laugh at the sense that we (on the forum) were posting that "prem can't die!!!!" when we got wind of the fact that the original story had prem die. and guess what? prem doesn't die!! that's totally ludicrous. we are not the creators of the show, the tellers of the story! they are! but if they don't have faith in the story, then how can it be a good one? how can the story change from what it is?
btw, i have no problems with sub-texts and sub-plots -- but they have to have been there from the start. often, one reads that "a new track is introduced..." wha....???? wha....??!?!?!?!?! to me, that sounds so difficult. if a new track had to be introduced, then it would have to be fit into the original story. the consequences of the new track examined from every angle. the effect it would have on the past, the present and the future of the story. how can they just "introduce a new track"?? weird...
and so i totally agree with everything that you have written -- all your points. 'cause i believe they all stem from that first one flaw -- nobody keeps track of the story. 'cause...
the creators look like they've been to a school that told them to have a good start, and then.... try to keep the show running as long as forever! i have no clue why that is smart -- but that is what it looks like.
i started my hindi-serial life with a show called kaisa yeh pyar hai. it was a very cool concept in the beginning. the trauma of the drama got to be quite unbearable -- angad-kripa (the central characters) go through terrible upheavals -- quite nasty stuff. but it was consistent to a theme. and the characters had a core that was always there. which you could see and trust in. btw, it was interesting that they added characters in the middle of the show. one of these just truly stole the show away from everyone -- a friend called josh. man, did he rock! and he was sooo good that he became the reason that the story broke -- he got murdered. and they did this by murdering the character of another of the central players in the story -- kripa's lover called prithvi. at that point, i had lost faith and was out of the story.
hmm, the only reason i stayed was ... 'cause of the forum! they were brilliant even when the show wasn't!
thankfully, that is a show that has wound down. the real murder that such a school of serial-making that i got to watch was the one that broke my heart 🥺 and taught me to distance myself and never love a character that much again.
lakshya in kyunki saaas... (ya, i actually watched that show for a while, passionately! seriously! 😆) and he was truly a lovely lovely guy. the heartbeat of all the girls in the world, and still (like prem) deeply interested only in his one true love. sigh. i know what you're thinking -- "sucker!!!" but vibha, he was brilliant! he was until they assassinated what was core to his character -- human decency and an unshakeable love of a brother.
i'd have quit the first day after this. the only reason i stayed was ... 'cause of the forum! they were brilliant even when the show wasn't!
hmmm. see a common thread here? 😆
i now begin to understand why places like the forum are held with some respect by the creatives -- they actually get people to hold on, for trps not to plummet, even when they deliver poopy-episodes. only part of it is hope that the story will revive or get back on track. a big part of it is that the camraderie on this forum keeps us together, to the show.
hmm. should we be using this...? do we already??? 😆
eeks. i must admit - i hated the concept. i got in because of .... (drumroll) ... prem. and that too at a point where his character had developed much later than what it was when he entered. he was a bit of a dork when he came in, no? 😆
umm, i'm okay with subplots. but ya, things that they don't intend to follow up with --- like that stoooooopid episode end where they have prashant stand and threaten dirtchachi that either she does what it takes, or he will unveil her role in the mess -- that kind of stuff is seriously disruptive to the story.
they were silly about that, weren't they? i wonder why...?
somehow i think that nihaal was always part of the original secret in the story.... i mean, heer's mom talked about a missing son. so it had to be there, no?
sigh, agreed! especially when they could've dragged on the story in such a lovely manner using this!! it so fits in with a longer running serial -- this is a big question! 😆
well, i'm not so pessimistic about this. 'cause i've noticed that whenever i think that they've done their best, they always manage to catch me by surprise and give us something spectacular. so i think there is a story. i think there is some kind of path it's taking. it's not completely bizzarre according to me.
it's just that i'm not sure that i'll have the time to wait and watch too much. but i am happy that i've been here so far -- i've had fun. i've learnt things from prem. big things, little things. mostly good things.😆 and of course, there has been you and people like you.
i'm not complaining. i'm still having fun. seriously. 😆
Originally posted by: Jai & Bani
YUP Totally agree!
I am actually very very CONFUSED!!!!!
What actually they have planned....Is It Puner Janam melo dramma or some really big things!
Originally posted by: Katishna
you took the words right out of my mouth. finally someone says what we have all been wanting to say.
Originally posted by: silparavindar
i heartfully agree with you vibha...and nice comparision with bidaai...too many cooks spoil the curry is the fact...like in this story also same thing happened....i hope ekta will not give full freedom to creatives and i think she will always interfere in the track. I think she always think only about how to run the show years??? not the proper track and also she dont know how to utilize resources/ actors talent.
In my opinion why aditi is late to sets is what she will do if she come early...always with glycerine...or lallu ka ullu face...DJ ki rude behaviour...only these things they are showing no love story...what she will do then..anyway let hope HC & AG will be bak...with ekta creative track...
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