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Posted: 11 years ago
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People who claim that Saachi is doing this sacrifice for keeping DV with his parents...can't she see that DV since last four months is living happily without his parents. Can't she see that in India also around 70% children live away from parents...sometimes due to boarding school! sometimes due to jobs and sometimes due to marriage so what new is this.
Can't this madam see that DV has been confident that he will convince his parents...so why to take this responsibility on her...let DV do the task.

All this made sence if she was In love and wanted to search any possibility to work out a balance between family and her. Just mom says family will break Saachi wothout even giving it a thought accepts yes it will break and backs off.

What dumbness is this...and is this sacrifice for love...I disagree...it's not love therefore she is finding an easy escape,
Edited by ApoorvaFan - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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lolzzz aap sab bahut quoting kar rahe ho...bhanu hs warned against it 😎
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: naneta

lolzzz aap sab bahut quoting kar rahe ho...bhanu hs warned against it 😎


Bhanu ka purpose that quoting should be limited so that the threads don't become a chat.and discussion is not lost. But yes we should reduce excessive quoting...meine bhi last post mein quote nahin kiya...I also sensed it just when you did...meri like minded sis.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Vinee,
not only spamming and chatting and deviating into a different topic but also excessive quoting makes tough for others to follow the discussion. the last 3 to 4 posts, I am not understanding clearly because its repeatedly quoted
address the person with @naneta if you are addressing by user id and if you already know the name, you can simply say
Bhanu, ...
and you can also reply to 2 to 3 people in one single post
Bhanu, ...
@naneta, ...
etc that way the readability of the thread increases
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Understood Bhanu...I have seen this trend in Are Yaar's post but did not know the reason. Yeah I understand when we read the trail of posts then these quoted posts jar the interest and the site load also increases.
I will restrict myself to minimul quoting and try that the understandability of the topic is intact. Thanks for the info.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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ok... now you guys continue...
nice discussion going on...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: vinee_vinee

I have many points to prove otherwise

  • DV persuaded Saachi to say that she loved DV, had left on her own she would have never felt anything for DV.
  • Her attraction for DV was the outcome of DV persistence and affection which Saachi always lacked in her life.
  • Saachi was made to believe that she is in love by DV and when she confessed it was because of his insistence where her mind got influenced and she thought she does but actually it was not.
  • DV became satisfied that Saachi has confessed and never realised that he has made her speak out and she has not done it on her own.
  • She flew in the air with DV as it was all happening for the first time in her life and anyone would feel the pleasure of being loved. It was a feeling of being loved that was making her happy and not that she loves someone.
  • The first signs of this feeling not being love came out when Saachi removed the ring the very next day of wearing it when she was not being able to speak to grannys. DV had emotions attached to it, but Saachi had none. She didn't value it even in the beginning.
  • The first signs of trouble came when their relationship was detected by Ulka and Saachi stopped taking DV's calls. Naani Aaji were yet to know.
  • Then she did not even try to convince naani aaji and gave up on DV and returned him the ring.
  • Saachi used to even look away whenever DV looked at her for support while fighting for their love alone.
  • The next time Saachi showed fickleness was at the MM function. She left the place and made havoc out of DV's friendship with Ankita.
  • Saachi kept asking DV to rethink on their relationship due to their cultural and status differences. She was bitter how Anky knows DV more than her. We called it her insecurity but it was lack of 100% from her side that she suspects DV to be the same. We always see us as a mirror in judging others.
  • Saachi never made any effort to show DV that he matters to her and always considered her ego bigger. If Anky sat at the front seat, she did not feel the need to go to the movie just because DV was there and she could have went for him but she was so stubborn.
  • Love sees no ego and Saachi has never been able to forget her ego. She does what she wants to do and never ever consults with DV.
  • Saachi showed another sigh of fickleness when Ankita warned her about DV. She trusted her instead of DV whereas when in love trust comes automatically...but she doubted that DV would go. Again she compared his love with her love in subconscious mind and as she does not love DV, she thought the same for DV.
  • She again went furious when she came to know about DV's connection with PE and broke off. How anything and everything becomes important for her but DV. Also she could not sense the uneasyness in DV and dozed off when he was speaking his mind to her. If she loved him, it should not have taken her time to grill DV and make him come out with the truth, but she simply could not see. Even Aaji noticed it but she didn't.
  • The way she yelled at DV was so unlike a lover, not giving him any chance to explain.
  • She went with DV but got uncomfortable at every level of meeting his parents and today when mother warned her against the displeasure in family and how she won't be accepted, she made up her mind of leaving DV yet again without even consulting him. She even didi not retaliate when DV's mom was raising her concerns and not even once tried to convince that she would adjust.
In my opinion whatever she has done so far only proves that she has not yet been able to love DV. She only went with the flow and when DV strongly made her feel that she is in love, she only believed that she is.
Today also she showed how Parents were everything to her, how she can relate to their loss but can't relate to the loss of a lover. That's why mommy used parents as her weapon and said that she would not want DV to lose his parents just as she lost hers. There she broke as she values them but not DV.
When she weighed love of parents to love of a lover, lover lost. So she has loved her farms, her family and her siblings but never DV. It's very apparent with the way she goes out of the way for them but as DV puts it only he gets her Royal treatment.



I am sorry but I beg to differ...Saachi loves him 100% or maybe more...
As you read what I have written ,please keep two points in focus : 1) Saach's maturity and 2) her foresight , a vision to see the future...and also :
Saach's life' shaped her in a very different way from what she was...she became mature, responsible,introvert and inhibited ,to name a few characteristics, at the age of 19 years...
Your first few points are about DV persuading Saachi to confess her love for him,her attraction for him was because of DV's persistence and affection for her,and that DV was satisfied at her confession of love not realizing that it was forced,and not naturally said by her...
Let's go back to the show :
DV and Saachi's growing friendship...her concern when tea burns DV's hand...putting haldi on his cheek and he on hers... Night encounters...making him comfortable on the sofa in the hotel room...worrying about him when he stayed away all night from the hotel room...both became aware of attraction when their hands brushed against each other by accident...tending to his wounds when he got into a fight and worrying about it ...things like these made DV realize that she also loved him and challenged her that that he will make her confess her love for him...did you notice that she did not report DV or his advances to anyone in the family? She could have complained and thrown him out ,but no, she did no such thing...why ?...DV was further convinced of her love when she nursed him all night, and also the way she clung to him when she realized he was not dead ...and she said..." mujhe chodd kar kahin na Jana ...mein tumhe kahin na jane doongi "...but suddenly she realized she was admitting,and went back in her shell...so all DV did was to bring out what was already in her...her deep love for him...and when she admitted, she said...8 or 9 times... " I love you " and "ha mein tumhe Bahut Jadaa pyaar karti hoon "
Now why she was not admitting or holding back ? Because of her maturity and her foresight...she foresaw all the problems they would face if she confessed her love...and all the problems she spoke of are the main points of the story...she asked him you made me confess to love, now what ? He says shaadi...she scoffs at him and says kya bacchoo ka khel hai ? My family,your family society will object to our relation because of age difference...she was at this point unaware of class difference...
From the time she confessed and till now they have faced tremendous trauma...you say she does not show feelings for him or does not care,but was she given a chance to enjoy their relation or settle in it or be secure ?...soon after she declared her love ,family disapproved,so they almost split...they passed that hurdle and MM happened,and Ankita came...status difference and competition ...MM was not her fault at all...I would also feel out of place if I am not used to that life...DV should have not left her alone...Ankita : not sitting in the front seat and DV spending time with her...well that's jealously and she confessed to it ,means she loved him enough to be jealous...she tells DV "mein jitna Jada pyaar karti hoon utna jada daarti hoon" "tum meri zindagi ki subse pyaari cheez ho jise khone ka daar hamesa raheta hai" don't you think it's love ? After Ankita we see her trying to settle in her relationship...gets more physical, decides to break all her inhibitions and be free and communicative withDV,and no more fights...we see an effort on her part to get very close to DV...don't you call that love ? ...you say she fell asleep and did not listen to DV...well that was an innocent mistake ...she was excited about telling him all that was in her mind,and after she finished she asked him what he wanted to say...now that was the end of day, and she had been busy preparing for the party and waiting for him...she just dozed off...And DV was relieved too, because he first wanted to talk to his father before telling her...
She was justified in being angry in PE matter,but she should have given him a chance to explain...which she realized
DV's family defenitely intentionally made her and Adu uncomfortable and out of place and even insulted her...she gave DV credit and called him priceless...but it was his mother's emotional blackmail that broke her...she accused her of breaking her family, separating son from family,and how she disapproves her son marrying an older woman...she basically made her feel guilty...she topped it by saying she of all people should understand what it is like losing parents...which DV would if he married her...if these things are said to any decent girl,she would walk away from the relationship...and this was Saachi,a family oriented decent honest girl...she was left no choice but to walk away
I think she loves DV as much as her family and farm...only thing is she has not been given an opportunity to form a secure bonding with him...they have been on a roller coaster ride since Saachi declared her love for him...if they are given a study phase ,secure bonding could develope,and then you will see Saachi wala pyaar
I hope this is not too long

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Jyoti I always find your long posts worth every words reading so the longer the better.
I understand your POV very well and to some extent realise that she may be in love although not a very deep rooted love but some love. Saachi cared for DV initially was al out of a friendly affection as she would do it fir even a neighbourhood cat as she said in one of the episodes.

I also understand that DV has also spend the same rollercoster relationship wit Saachi yet he has been always stable. It may be a result of his secure upbringing but Saachi flipping out on every smallest incident is also not maturity. Saachi may have been less secure in relationship but she has her experience with which she could have substituted her lack of knowledge on love. She may have been patient it dv, tried to understand a guys psyche, tried to involve more in the younger lot of May have just once tried to ask Adu what guys like and got DV a gift. The times when she wasted in getting jealous of Ankita, a mature woman when repeteadly assured by her bf about his love, should have used towards making the relationship stronger.

I just expected maturity which an independent woman of her age should possess, moreover when she had been the sole bread earner and decision maker in the family. And this is what she showcased in the beginning also and made DV and all of us fall for her.

She is just human and humans make mistakes but as you said she has got no time to settle in her relationship and so has DV. DV still has made efforts which were ever lacking from Saachi's side. Saachi has lived other relations, she has not lived a secluded life away from social beings. She has cared for them, looked after them, tended to their needs and has also understood Prachi then why never DV.
A person who can live evey relation to the brim, how can she falter in this relationships. As DV says Saanchi aapno ke liye jaan bhi de sakti hai to mujhe hi ye royal treatment kyon milta hai. He was right...as even he has never seen Saachi doing anything for him ever. Even yesterday all he could say was that Saachi makes very nice meal for me.
Saachi trying to woo DV in that red saree was all Dils...Saachi getting romantic on new year and resolving to open up was Naani...where has been Saachi in all of this.
When two people are in a relationship then it's essential to trust and discuss. Saachi being the mature one should have known it as it's the thumb rule of any relationship not just love. But she has never shown any maturity in this department and whatever she asks DV to do also comes across as orders and never guidance.

I agree that they were not given any time to settle down in their relationship but it was Saachi who was after DV's life to involve parents. I think she was right as the whole colony was talking about them but then she should be ready to face the consequence with DV.

It was herself foreseen by her that their relationship is not easy and will not be easily accepted by anyone so she would have been prepared that DV's parents would not be too supportive of their relationship. Agreed DV miscalculated them but then being a pampered son he told what he had perceived of his parents so far. Ok agreed he miscalculated and that was his fault too but then giving up a relationship is the easiest one can do. Any respectful girl would do it...I don't think so...any girl serious into a relationship would think first of her beau and then anyone else. She would most worry about his hurt than his family. His family is his priority first and then hers...esp when she has seen then how they can betray their own son so it was her reponsibilty to stand by DV much more.

This sacrificing women were of 60s where they did not knew the world but showing Saachi like that is pathetic weakening of her character.
She needed to confront DVs mother and asked her as to when DVs dad wanted to sell his sons happiness then how would she think DV will be happy with his family...or when DVs mom herself bothers more about her other family members and has not felt the need to even know once her sons happiness then how can she guarantee that DV will be happy there...when DV's brother has not left the land and stood against DV at such a small instance then how can she guarantee that there will be no rift between the two for any other matter...
If not from her, Saachi could have asked these questions from herself before taking the decision of leaving DV.

I just feel that breaking a relationship with a person like DV who has stood with her through thick and thin should have got more reasons than the one which Saachi is having.

Having a wrong family was not out of choice for DV and in a relationship it was DV's happiness which should have mattered the most to her. She saw DV's family not concerned about his happiness, but what did she do...even she got weak in the name of family and left him.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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It has become a twisted love story.. convoluted plot!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Vinee,
I differ with this observation of yours
can't she see that DV since last four months is living happily without his parents
DV is away from his parents which any grown up children do... for studies or job or any other professional reasons we physically stay away from family some times not only parents, it could be your spouse but that does not mean that we are not together... We are still connected to them and enjoy all the comfort of being for one another when needed.
But the separation which may come which Saachi could see is the separation of hearts... Though DV physically stay in the same house along with Saachi, there could be differences which can create rift and subsequently he may get separated from parents mentally... That is a different situation.
I feel its very harsh to say he is happy without his parents... he is actually with them... talking to his mom frequently etc... he is part of the family and is connected to them
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