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Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: shwetha85

Vikrant's love for Kirti seems phony at times. He used to immensely hate her but suddenly one day fell for her beauty etc.. He did not make an attempt to know her completely. He kept thinking to kill her but one day suddenly decided not to kill her instead just remove the idea of finding Bittu's partner by kidnapping Puru.

I feel that the moment CVs got to know the show is not doing well and due to low TRP will be brought down, they stopped using their brains and made this show illogical from that point.

Dont know whom to blame SP for only interested in making remakes after remakes or the markers of KDH for ruining the experience of those viewers who are watching this show from episode 1.


Even i thought how Vikran who wanted Kirti killed sudden has love for Kirti


I mean she never saved him from some grave situation yet he love her


And hes someone who had sexual relationship with 14 women and killed them later


So why only fall for kirti?

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Recently binge-watched the show.

I don't think Vikrant has been glorified here. I think it is more about the fact that the story is being told mainly from his point of view.

Like they say, a villain is a villain till the hero tells the story. Something of that kind.

But I definitely agree with most of what you've said. I can momentarily feel bad after his past comes out but nothing changes who he is - a serial killer who has killed innocent people.

The very reason I stayed away from the show despite being intrigued by the promos was because I really like Mudit as an actor and didn't want my liking to lead me to root for a murderer and considering how ITV brings some of those beautiful scenes with the captivating chemistry, it's hard not to fall for them.

I get you when you say you find it odd how Kirti is not thinking about Dev's accusation against Sarkar but I feel, it is about the timing and the accuser. The accusation came after Kirti had completely put her faith into Vikrant who had carefully assured her by then with his gestures that he is the best for her and Puru and the accusation came from the one who had abused her for years.

Had it been a stranger, Kirti might have considered it but because it came from Dev, her mind knows that it has to be false. In her mind, Dev has to be doing all of this just because he can't see her happy and won't let her be happy. It is understandable.

As much as I would like to believe that Vikrant genuinely loves Kirti, it doesn't matter because that can't get him rid of his sins. Why did he kill those women? Because they weren't Kirti? That was enough of a reason for them to die?

I can't stand Dev either. Sure, Vikrant's crimes are sick but I can't spare Dev. An abuser is an abuser. Nobody can tell when the domestic violence will turn into a murder. It also leads to women committing suicides and I look at them as murders so Dev sucks too.

The only thing that I don't understand is how Dev is a saccha-accha all of a sudden. Either Dev is bipolar or Dev wasn't as bad as Kirti painted him to be? Or CVs messed up there? I am not sure but it's odd to watch how caring he is being.

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: IAdoreYou

Recently binge-watched the show.

I don't think Vikrant has been glorified here. I think it is more about the fact that the story is being told mainly from his point of view.

Like they say, a villain is a villain till the hero tells the story. Something of that kind.

But I definitely agree with most of what you've said. I can momentarily feel bad after his past comes out but nothing changes who he is - a serial killer who has killed innocent people.

The very reason I stayed away from the show despite being intrigued by the promos was because I really like Mudit as an actor and didn't want my liking to lead me to root for a murderer and considering how ITV brings some of those beautiful scenes with the captivating chemistry, it's hard not to fall for them.

I get you when you say you find it odd how Kirti is not thinking about Dev's accusation against Sarkar but I feel, it is about the timing and the accuser. The accusation came after Kirti had completely put her faith into Vikrant who had carefully assured her by then with his gestures that he is the best for her and Puru and the accusation came from the one who had abused her for years.

Had it been a stranger, Kirti might have considered it but because it came from Dev, her mind knows that it has to be false. In her mind, Dev has to be doing all of this just because he can't see her happy and won't let her be happy. It is understandable.

As much as I would like to believe that Vikrant genuinely loves Kirti, it doesn't matter because that can't get him rid of his sins. Why did he kill those women? Because they weren't Kirti? That was enough of a reason for them to die?

I can't stand Dev either. Sure, Vikrant's crimes are sick but I can't spare Dev. An abuser is an abuser. Nobody can tell when the domestic violence will turn into a murder. It also leads to women committing suicides and I look at them as murders so Dev sucks too.

The only thing that I don't understand is how Dev is a saccha-accha all of a sudden. Either Dev is bipolar or Dev wasn't as bad as Kirti painted him to be? Or CVs messed up there? I am not sure but it's odd to watch how caring he is being.


In india as per survey 30% husbands hit their wives the wife themselves have admitted in survey


And it says 70% others who face such abuse never accept it. So real percentage of hubby who hit wife is much more. This is 2020-21 (google it) survey.


Everything is hidden behind closed doors only family or neighbors know none else


In name of family and respect all hidden thing goes on in 4 walls of house


Problem is even police and law think its ok for hubby or father or brother to hit girls. Just try telling a police my hubby or father or brother hit me will they put FIR never they think its family issue resolve at home with family why FIR?


That is how many crore's of husbands are safe from any law after hitting wives because as society india or asia accepts this as ok to hit wife or daughter or sister at home


Same goes to sexual abuse by managers in office its all ok pushed under carpet. Has any man gone to jail for sexual harassment of a woman in office none. Does that mean all are saints no sexual harassment is rampant in indian company its open secret. Many woman thats why stop working early or after marriage etc because they are fed up facing harassment not because they do not want to work. Only those whose husbands cannot single handed earn enough for family continue at job. Anyway after marriage sexual harassment reduces in company as they are scared of husbands. Women get some safety as wives but single, widows and divorcee are targetted in office and society its an open secret.


Dev represents majority of society. Majority men in real life are Dev nice in pubic and abusive at home to wife, kids, sisters, daughters etc


But since majority men are like that in india or asia that does not mean they are not worried about safety of their wife or daughter or sister or kids. They are worried that other men may take advantage of women of their houses. Because they know how men are truly inside but portray diff goody goody picture outside you see.


Dev also knows how Sarkar is outside nice nice social workers sarkar who helps all inside the maniac narcissistic Machiavellian serial killer murdering woman and men at will


Why Gaurd and other officer cannot imagine Srakar as serial killer is they have seen Srakar from many years and decades. Its like this will you doubt your neighbour is a rapist of serial killer? Or will you think local bungalow richest guy can kill 20 ppl? No right?


But outsiders who are new to city have no bonding to Srakar. They give a damn that Srakar is rich or helped so many. They will see his true face. They are not influenced by others opinion of sarkar.


Initially when Kirthi was also doubting Sarkar a killer only till he helped her so much na


Thats psychology humans never suspect their family, relatives, neighbours, people they know can do any heinous things in life


But being police you must over come these prejudice to catch killer or rapists. Than only you can stop crimes


In india still mai baap culture exists all rich and powerful are worshipped by everyone include police. Thats why crimes never come out. Like sexual hararsment in company many men would be in jail but roaming in office corridors just because law does not take all this seriously. Its a very patrichial system in offices too

Edited by myviewprem - 1 years ago
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Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: IAdoreYou

Recently binge-watched the show.

I don't think Vikrant has been glorified here. I think it is more about the fact that the story is being told mainly from his point of view.

Like they say, a villain is a villain till the hero tells the story. Something of that kind.

But I definitely agree with most of what you've said. I can momentarily feel bad after his past comes out but nothing changes who he is - a serial killer who has killed innocent people.

The very reason I stayed away from the show despite being intrigued by the promos was because I really like Mudit as an actor and didn't want my liking to lead me to root for a murderer and considering how ITV brings some of those beautiful scenes with the captivating chemistry, it's hard not to fall for them.

I get you when you say you find it odd how Kirti is not thinking about Dev's accusation against Sarkar but I feel, it is about the timing and the accuser. The accusation came after Kirti had completely put her faith into Vikrant who had carefully assured her by then with his gestures that he is the best for her and Puru and the accusation came from the one who had abused her for years.

Had it been a stranger, Kirti might have considered it but because it came from Dev, her mind knows that it has to be false. In her mind, Dev has to be doing all of this just because he can't see her happy and won't let her be happy. It is understandable.

As much as I would like to believe that Vikrant genuinely loves Kirti, it doesn't matter because that can't get him rid of his sins. Why did he kill those women? Because they weren't Kirti? That was enough of a reason for them to die?

I can't stand Dev either. Sure, Vikrant's crimes are sick but I can't spare Dev. An abuser is an abuser. Nobody can tell when the domestic violence will turn into a murder. It also leads to women committing suicides and I look at them as murders so Dev sucks too.

The only thing that I don't understand is how Dev is a saccha-accha all of a sudden. Either Dev is bipolar or Dev wasn't as bad as Kirti painted him to be? Or CVs messed up there? I am not sure but it's odd to watch how caring he is being.


I will get into the debate later of whether this show is glorifying a Serial Killer like Vikrant.While I am not a regular viewer of this serial today I saw Vikrant finished that Cop Dev Kirti's ex-husband.


Vikrant has all the classic traits of an organized Serial killer-Charming,Sophisticated,Narcissistic with an extremely complex and Superficial Personality.He is adept in hiding his true emotions and turning on the Charm just like that specially on Kirti.Till now his inner demon has devoured those 14 girls in Panchgani.In addition to that he's quite rich and powerful and hails from a royal family perhaps having a big influence on the Panchgani's Legal Department specially the Cops.


I have not watched how did Dev was able to deduce Vikrant as the Killer behind all those murders but Dev under-estimated Vikrant that cannot be ruled out. He thought that Vikrant was just like any powerful person whose influence could be brought down by using under-handed legal tricks but forgot to take into account Vikrant's aka Sarkar's sharp brain and savage intellect.


Vikrant did not become Sarkar just like that.He is not wholly dependent on the cops to cover up his crimes.Sarkar knows the Panchgani area like the back of his hand not to take into account his powerful influence aside.He's a meticulous planner who likes to plan every step of the way like any accomplished hunter and waits for the right moment to stalk and hunt his prey.


One thing cannot be denied that Vikrant has always helped Kirti out of every tight situatuon whether its with regards to custody of Puru or that Library fiasco within the school of which Sarkar is the Trustee. Though Kirti might not be emotionally fragile and has been strong enough to take care of Puru which Dev as a father has always failed to deliver.Sarkar not only filled the role of Puru's dad but acted as a moral and strong emotional support for Kirti which any woman howsoever independent she might be needs that.


That does not mean that Kirti is weak or cannot take care of herself without Sarkar.She's quite a strong and capable lady but the problem is Society's outlook.Inspite of being opened up the society has still retained its traditional outlook towards women.Plus Kirti is not rich enough like Sarkar to take care of Puru and herself.She's just like any other middle class Individual who needs money for day to day survival.


Getting back to the relationship between Sarkar and Kirti does Sarkar love Kirti? Its debatable.The answer can be a both Yes and No.Vikrant perhaps does love Kirti truly.There was one time in the initial episodes where his inner voice did warn many times that Kirti could be the reason for Vikrant's ultimate doom.


Its not that Vikrant did not try to kill Kirti once or twice not only that he even kidnapped Puru when Kirti was quite close to Vikrat's truth.So the answer lies between somewhere Yes and No.When Vikrant killed Dev today there was unspeakable rage and violence in his eyes.He was quite mad about Dev hurting Kirti or Puru.


Psychopaths like Vikrant's emotions are extreme-both Love and Hate.So yes Vikrant's love for Kirti is extreme at least that's what today's episode proved.Dev's error in not planning cleverly against a dangerous hunter like Vikrant cost Dev his life.


A couple of years back on the Horror show SSSSH Phir Koi Hai I had watched about a Demon named Viraat.Viraat was a supernatural entity the son of the True Devil born to wreak havoc on this world.While he was not a serial killer like Vikrant but it was necessary for him to hunt down those persons who might pose an obstacle to his nefarious plans so he killed those persons one by one he did not even spare his own family members.The only person he could not kill was his wife Uttara.


Later on his love for her caused his ultimate death.The above mentioned story is not about defending Vikrant or Viraat but its about outlining the true motives of their grey shades or complex layered character.Viraat loved Uttara truly despite being the son of a Demon.Like Vikrant he was quite powerful or let's say became powerful by being replaced with Uttara in the Sanyal household.


If Vikrant loves Kirti even 1% truly then even after someday his real secret or let's say his real face gets exposed in front of Kirti he might try to persuade her to live with him forever and be a happy family which Kirti would never accept.That day would be the real test of Sarkar's love for Kirti.


Inspite of getting that love in his life Sarkar has not made any effort to change his attitude.He says that he will eternally protect Kirti but he himself is the real threat to Kirti not to mention that innocent kid Puru.And what can Puru learn from a serial killer like Vikrant? His presence in Puru's life is like a dark cloud hanging over that innocent child's head.


Yes Sarkar will hunt down those fiends till the end of the earth who try to harm either Kirti or Puru that much has been proved today by his actions.


As far as Glorifying Serial Killers is concerned my take is Vikrant is a likeable character but his actions are condemnable and morally and legally unjustified and vile.His stupid dominating attitude has cost the lives of 14 girls in Panchgani who cannot be brought back from the dead and there's no guarantee that tomorrow Kirti won't be added to the list.


If Dev was not an ideal Husband Material for Kirti then Vikrant also cannot be the same ideal one for Kirti.Perhaps nobody can love madly love Kirti unlike Sarkar but a relationship built on the foundation of lies cannot have a blissful ending.Not only that he's gonna marry her too.How will Sarkar be that ideal husband for Kirti operating under a false identity of being an honorable man?


And for that matter will Kirti accept Sarkar for all his faults even if his truth gets exposed someday? Will Vikrant really change himself for Kirti?




Edited by masked - 1 years ago

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