Katha Ankahee -- #14 daily EDT [DT NOTE PG 121] - Page 26

At least in stories "Karma"sets in!

A good take ...

What viraj and Seema achieved nothing!other than bringing one ore child, emotionally suffering .

The hypocrisy of the makers of the show though.They cannot show any physical attraction between Katha and Viaan or make them have any conversation regarding that night because they are "catering to the Indian audience" but can show Viaan giving Seema respect in front of media for whom his father left him.Ab Indian audience gaya tel lene.

Totally Agree

That " black might " totally forgotten where as OG there were 3 main characters ML, FL and Black night

Lead pair has amazing " chemistry, FL was such striking beauty which made ML , which made ML feeling vulnerable and threatened when other males were around her@

There was strong physical attraction towards each other !

Over here nothing , on top of that they keep " teaching audience ...transforming Viaan"

Viaan transformed too much that he lost the " zest" the uniqueness....He has been reduced nothing but a robot programmed by Katha 🤣

She his " touches " to his shoulder he comes in to action mode , Teju will fume seeing that( hope only )

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What " true love " nonsense they are trying to show I can't get it !

As if 2 Mom's are not enough creatives brought in One more Mom figure fir Viaan ( Farah us also.like a Mom figure , only Eshan gives some entertainment

🤣Enough teaching the audience 🤣

An oldie from anther show, but a newbie on this forum!!

Came here to rant because the current track is not digestible to me at all!

Honestly, pissed… so very pissed at how they have justified and brought to highlight this abomination of a track based of on a literally disgusting social evil… something which the show makers might be taking easy but is infact something that so many families face as a real life problem— some man going out because he is “not finding Sukoon” in the house while the wife is left behind to care for the man’s old parents, his kids, his family.

The concubine or the mistress is always a woman who pursues a rich man, for reasons of their own, in this case seema called it “love”… but think for a second, telling teji “Sab tumhara, mujhe sirf viraj chahiye” viraj k saath jati uski viraasat… something which was and is Viaan’s birthright. Also in compliance to the view of the prespective that legacy is carried forward by ability and not by blood alone, Viaan is the ONLY one who is rightfully the heir of Raghuvanshi family for having toiled SO HARD to take earthcon to such great heights.

Now at the peak of company’s name and fame, the concubine returns with her daughter, feigning “innocence” and playing victim card for being called what she actually was— A BLO*DY HOME WRECKER, with her child who, as viaan said has not even a penny of right on the legacy he built out of earthcon, claiming her mother’s “hak”, arrogantly stating “she belongs there” on the first day of her interview when she hadn’t even moved an inch of her body or utilised even a dime of her so-called “talent and smartness” to prove her worth, why? Because she is Sr. Raghuvanshi’s love child?

What pains my heart is to see Teji being held wrong for trying to safeguard her honour, her name, her family, her relationship, her child and their collective reputation. WHETE AND HOW WAS SHE WRONG IN DOING THIS? AND HOW IS SHE NOT THE VICTIM BUT THE CULPRIT… while the culprits(viraj and seema) are being given a free pass? Why is viaan being burdened by the weight of a sim neither his mother nor he has done? Why is he going to seek forgiveness from the culprit herself?

And what now? Just like that the serial people are going to handover legitimacy and social acceptance for vanya and seema? HIGHLY UNACCEPTABLE!

Vanya is not and CAN NEVER BE A RAGHUVANSHI. She can’t have rights equal to viaan in the legacy or the company… and not can her mother be called innocent.

Just by trying to implicate all these things, the show people are causing a social chaos… and that is where they have nullified all the good things they have previously shown and done…

Redemption is still possible by just sending away the Dutta ladies by giving them a dime of money as allowance for all that they have “suffered”, maybe viaan can be shown paying for Seem’s treatment.

But, by gawd, if they show him playing Happy Family with Vanya as his “sister”(when she is just his half sister… a reminder of his father’s betrayal), this will be my tata bye bye to the serial I thought was so good and so refreshing and for a change so pleasing unlike other crappy daily soaps… but here it is not slipping down that same slippery slope

MAKERS! Honestly, not going to accept you playing on this vanya thing! NOT AT ALL! GET RID OF THE DUTTA LADIES BEFORE WE MAKE OURSELVES GET RID OF YOU!

Originally posted by: G259

The hypocrisy of the makers of the show though.They cannot show any physical attraction between Katha and Viaan or make them have any conversation regarding that night because they are "catering to the Indian audience" but can show Viaan giving Seema respect in front of media for whom his father left him.Ab Indian audience gaya tel lene.

Haha I agree with you!! I was actually talking to my sister about how the show has strayed away, or actually even left, the plot line of them spending a night together (I think this is the case? I didn’t watch the show for a long while actually). It’s such a sensitive matter that I would presume would always be between them. I mean, wasn’t Viaan always attracted to Katha especially?

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

letha -- the reason this track is coming off as really strange is the emphasis on love and how that is license to do whatever. that is very strange thinking within the Indian context.

have mentioned this long time ago but in many Indian languages, we have several words for love -- romantic love is right next to lust and is on the bottom. we see love as a fleeting and fickle emotion. it is why we don't really emphasize or talk about it so much.

now respect on the other hand such a strong emotional connotation which just does not come across in english. just say 'izzat' and how strongly we feel.

I am reminded of a bagya lakshmi serial scene where the daughter will be rude to the 2nd wife for telling her to study. then the grandfather will chide her saying, "first of all, she is your father's wife and you should respect her. you don't have to like her but you need to respect her as your elder because of her relationship with your father. you don't have to like or agree with what happened between your parents but that has nothing to do with you. however as a human being and a woman, you should give her respect as that is our culture."

for me, that is what this conflict should be about -- the battle for respect. teji blackened a man's name after his death. that is such a no-no in our culture because honour, name and reputation is so highly valued. that is the crux. now in order to get respect, you cannot justify your actions in the name of love.

viraj was unhappy and wanted to leave -- that is okay in my book. as ruchita mentioned, there have been many murders and crimes when people wanted to exit a marriage. in many crime patrol episode, the host will say, "just choose divorce. please don't resort to murder".

in some families, there may not be physical murder but it is so emotionally toxic where they all hate each other and kids end up despising marriage and love. so in those kind of emotionally toxic and turbulent situations, it is best if the couple splits up rather than hurt each other.

there was a regional debate show where adult children said openly they wished parents didn't stay together for the sake of children because they were so miserable growing up.

so if viraj wanted to leave -- happens. viraj wanted to live with someone else and a different life -- happens. teji was upset and created drama -- happens.

now what I find weird is the justification track by using the excuse of love. that is very strange. viraj was unhappy and that had nothing to do with whether he loved teji or not. their marriage was clearly a mismatch and that happens a lot in arranged marriage. so why are they talking so much about love? that I don't get. it is irrelevant if he fell in love with seema -- if not seema, it would have been someone else because he was unhappy and he wanted a different life. these things happen.

so all this justification by using the word love is total bakwas. seema is a 3rd party which is a fact. it is also fact that that she wasn't mistress but more second wife. we can debate law and legalities but within Indian context, second wife does have some respect.

so teji's actions on their izzat was messed up -- seema should have been given the respect of second wife and viraj was not some playboy. maligning a man's character after his death where he is not around to defend himself is a real low. so if the makers just approached from the izzat/respect angle without going into this weird tangent about love, it would feel more desi. all this talk about love makes me feel like I am watching some western show.

humans are messy. just show how the relationship and marriage deteriorated without doing a black and white approach. I can't believe I am saying this but even serials like bagya lakshmi and anupama had a far more sophisticated understanding of how marriages unraveled. 😆

The whole track is presented in the most wrong way. And I don't understand the purpose of taking this track this way

As per the narrative, Teji-Viraj had an arranged marriage (I hope Viraj was not forced to marry Teji) and Seema came into picture later. A child was born(Viaan) to them. Loveless marriage and a child? Does it mean Viaan was born out of loveless ---? Did Teji use any wrong means (like typical ITV-seducing, spiking drinks, changing dress etc.) to take advantage? If so, I will say Teji is vile.

The ruthless way in which Viraj walked out leaving a distressed Teji and scared child is un bearable. Later Seema says that Viraj loved Viaan the most, really? Is it the way you love your child?

I see Seema as an opportunist who entered Viraj's life when Viraj-Teji was having issues. She was successful in taking Teji's place and Teji took revenge by defaming her. Both are equal 1-1. How come only Teji is the villain now? Both were wrong and say it loud that both were wrong.

I agree that marriages break, people fall out of love, they may fall in love again, second chances happen. But love can't be an excuse to justify the track. In the name of finding love somewhere else, a man can not just estrange his wife and son. And he wanted to meet his son and love him. Only Son. not his mother, right?

I agree with you that any other ITV show, Anupama, Imlie, Bhagya Lakshmi or even the shitty Ghum had handled EMA better way. They never did anything to glorify EMA. Kavya, Malini and Pakhi were called home breakers.

With the press conference in which Viaan will accept them as second mother and sister, what do they want to prove? Its okay to break marriages and walk out, get into second family without divorcing first? By accepting new found mom-sister, Viaan is breaking his mother's heart and does he even realise that?

What I perceive is that Katha understood that Teji will never accept her as DIL. So she is finding new ways to get a new second MIL and a SIL who will accept her.

Otherwise, how different is Viraj-Seema case and Yuvraj-Meera case? Why two approaches for the same situation?

Katha is the biggest manipulator than Farah, I must say. The whole situation goes like Katha is convincing Viaan to go through in a particular path and Viaan is just following. She acts as the remote control of him. Why Viaan can't think on his own?

I would be more interested to see when Viaan-Aarav gets to know that Katha knew about their truth long ago and hid it from both of them, and both of them shows mirror to her. That would be interesting

I dont think teji was wrong. Her anger was justified

What viraj remembered about viaan and teeji didnt let him meet

Clearly not enough to leave seema and come back to his child

He could have come back for sometime, try to convince teeji, viaan but no. He was ready to start family with seema

Viaan is clearly wrong to show sympathy to that home breaker

Vanya arrogantly behaved with katha because she believed herself to be a owner/raghuvanshi which she is not

Vanya is greedy like her mother

She is also selfishly using ehaan to get close to viaan

Such good show. Completely destroyed leads. I dont want to watch this anymore

All things aside, I think Viaan should really take control of his actions from now on. I empathize with him about the fact that all of these situations have been very hard for him to process, but he cannot keep depending on Katha’s opinions and feelings. I really want him to find strength from his vulnerability, the same strength and dominance that he had in the beginning of the show.

Originally posted by: Lethamukund

The whole track is presented in the most wrong way. And I don't understand the purpose of taking this track this way

As per the narrative, Teji-Viraj had an arranged marriage (I hope Viraj was not forced to marry Teji) and Seema came into picture later. A child was born(Viaan) to them. Loveless marriage and a child? Does it mean Viaan was born out of loveless ---? Did Teji use any wrong means (like typical ITV-seducing, spiking drinks, changing dress etc.) to take advantage? If so, I will say Teji is vile.

The ruthless way in which Viraj walked out leaving a distressed Teji and scared child is un bearable. Later Seema says that Viraj loved Viaan the most, really? Is it the way you love your child?

I see Seema as an opportunist who entered Viraj's life when Viraj-Teji was having issues. She was successful in taking Teji's place and Teji took revenge by defaming her. Both are equal 1-1. How come only Teji is the villain now? Both were wrong and say it loud that both were wrong.

I agree that marriages break, people fall out of love, they may fall in love again, second chances happen. But love can't be an excuse to justify the track. In the name of finding love somewhere else, a man can not just estrange his wife and son. And he wanted to meet his son and love him. Only Son. not his mother, right?

I agree with you that any other ITV show, Anupama, Imlie, Bhagya Lakshmi or even the shitty Ghum had handled EMA better way. They never did anything to glorify EMA. Kavya, Malini and Pakhi were called home breakers.

With the press conference in which Viaan will accept them as second mother and sister, what do they want to prove? Its okay to break marriages and walk out, get into second family without divorcing first? By accepting new found mom-sister, Viaan is breaking his mother's heart and does he even realise that?

What I perceive is that Katha understood that Teji will never accept her as DIL. So she is finding new ways to get a new second MIL and a SIL who will accept her.

Otherwise, how different is Viraj-Seema case and Yuvraj-Meera case? Why two approaches for the same situation?

Katha is the biggest manipulator than Farah, I must say. The whole situation goes like Katha is convincing Viaan to go through in a particular path and Viaan is just following. She acts as the remote control of him. Why Viaan can't think on his own?

I would be more interested to see when Viaan-Aarav gets to know that Katha knew about their truth long ago and hid it from both of them, and both of them shows mirror to her. That would be interesting

Originally posted by: amrapali2

Very interesting opinion, Mango.

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In my opinion, I think this is an extremely grey situation where everyone is wrong, but at the same time, they also have some valid arguments to their situation.

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Okay guys, now I am beginning to write essays and rants like Mango. 😂 But at the end of the day, this whole situation is messed up because there was no actual solution also; both those spouses were trapped in a toxic marriage, not knowing what the correct step in healing their relationship was. These kinds of situations just make me not want to get married at all 😭 😭

kekekeke.. welcome to world of essays! hahahhah..

I agree with you that this is one of those grey situations. most of the dramas I watch affairs happen, I am mostly ambivalent and only watching for the masala. rather than who is right and who is wrong, I want dramas to show how things unravel -- if we understand the mistakes that these characters make, then we can learn from them and apply those lessons in real life. in real life every character would be making some mistakes and some right moves.

while fans claim it to be super mature writing, the KA makers are showing they don't understand squat when they mutter dialogues about love. they think they are being different but without a proper foundation, they haven't built their case. if they wanted viewers to be sympathetic to viraj and seema, then they needed to show what was wrong in the marriage between viraj and teji. convince us why it was beyond save and how toxic it was for all.

I can't remember the name of the true crime show but it was about murders that happened by a spouse. the hosts were a psychologist and the other in family counseling. they would go through the timeline of how the couple met, married and what happened through till the murder. basically they would try to answer the question -- how did things get so bad that you would murder your wife/husband?

even in cases there were affairs before murder, there was already stuff happening to unravel the marriage. so the affair is often the symptom and not the cause. in the Indian context, the mistress is often seen as the cause and people have a hard time accepting that the marriage was already troubled and the affair was the symptom.

here, the makers are essentially saying the affair with seema was a symptom and therefore viraj and seema aren't wrong. however, they haven't built the case for it. viewers didn't get to know viraj or seema in detail. what we have is a poor sketch of characters and we are supposed to root for them because they are in love. 🙄

like you said, these kind of situations can sour you on the idea of marriage but it happens when we do a black and white approach of seeing the situation. if you just see it as more complex and dissect beyond the top layer, then you get to see far more interesting dynamics. rather than sour you on relationships, you can take what we can do better.

what I have learned is real masala and crime patrol type shows know what they are doing when it comes to affairs and marriages falling apart! 😂