Viraj you mysterious man! *DT Note Pg 2* - Page 8

Originally posted by: Pinot

As a fan of AnuPre, and a realist, I can assure you I am well aware of the limitations of this show.

Great u came down from being a neutral viewer to being a AnuPre fan in the space of two comments i appreciate you for that

Originally posted by: BombayGirl10

I think i read it enough times that pre should move on pre should be given chance with viraj bajaj to move on for potential couple etc etc but what is pre ? is she some toy that makers try to see who she fits with the best to satisfy jodi ? Make pre move on jap why does characters always need man or woman together for them to become imp for the show including third fourth angle ? If suppose they show pre move on what story are they going to write of male lead ? From story prospective what is the point of anupre love story if she moves on with another guy and again we see rona thodna by force ? And why throw pres character always in bucket to fit all the guys on the show basically like a toy... It sounds disgusting.

Problem lies how they have sketched both anupre this season. Though kzk is far from logic but basic idea from all the tracks is that any point anupre are ready to die for each other. Anu helped pre when he was no one to her and pre helped basus when they were under attack almost all the time. Logical prospective if makers want either of them to move on something major should happen between them in order to make it look convincing based on what they have shown. The couple who are ready to give up their life on every possible kasuti to let other live ? Just simply moves on with random guy or girl ? That sounds more dumb than pre falling from clif in pregnancy and anu opening sear belt with key.

Makers them self sketch the story of anu pre in 9months with such a plot that they seems to be there and dont even give dam about family or anyone when it comes to their love so what dhamaka can they show to detach them which didnt even happen in their death beds ?

And it sounds so kiddish that one fandom is scared of jodi thats why bajaj komo and were not utilitied etc etc jap. As fan of anupre love story why should i entertain other jodi ? Did people sighed up to watch komo love story or bajaj love story ? Its easy to just call fandom people scared jelous juvinile even but what is so great or entraining about komo and bajaj love angle ? Love hate drama is all over TV and more than leads love story here love hate love story is repetitive nothing new in that. In 2020 though people fight for self respect but they don't become weak to accept forced love or marriage. They find a a way or path in every possible way to get that one someone special who is worth to them and not accept the other parter by choice so easily.

Pre's character was criticised so much in bajaj track either for moving on traits or not moving on why ? Neither of that was organic or refreshing that people have not seen it before. Its funny people who call others juvinile or scared of foreshadowing people want that same pre agaist their fav to prove something about jodies whom people nothing but have criticised for even crying or breathing for the actual love of her life as per story. 🙄😑 Anu ko kya show piece me rakhe ge after pre moves on ? Rather than calling people scared or anupre fans scared of overshadowed first clear it out why they want pre against bajaj viraj ? I am sure its not to just get pre as trophy to play wife wife or romance her right ?

For a character to be liked or shine he/she doesnt need partner always be it positive or negative or grey. But calling people scared about potential jodi hits seems more like people only want to see one thing regards to their fav character. Atleast as anupre fan i can justify that seeing their love story makes more sense as thats what the show is about but what about others ? Story no doubt is crap fest from long time but still is anupre story that they are showing. Or else it would be like you ordered a tv from amazon but in return got cellphone 🙈.

Here other leads sound more desperate to get anupre than anu pre themselves who are happy with just dil ka rishta. Dikhava kise chaiye and kon overshadow karna chahta hai that is clear from that only. If character is nice and liked what is the need for this potential jodi and overshadow business ? 😏

Sorry for long post and diviating from original post too. Ksg naimik aamna Sanjay sir and entire cast is very talented bunch but makers signed up to show anupre love story on their own so its not audiance fault that they show a dislike when makers diviate from what they showed on their own will.

@bold - I think the makers are to be blamed here! Clearly they are unable to write a strong story revolving ONLY around the leads like most other hit shows running currently (ye rishta, KHKT, ye rishte, choti sardarni, Jadu hai jinn ka) All these shows have no scope for a third wheel because their protagonists are written like that. Kasautii is not that show. The protagonists have no career or goals. No personality traits or grey shades that can become a 'Kasautii' for their relationship. Like those who have seen Kuch rang will know 2.5 years that show ran only because of erica and shaheer. That is a show you call ran because of the leads. But kasautii is not that. That's why they need third angles. So in case you bring in people who have massive fan followings (Hina/KSG/Namik) and then don't give them their due people are bound to complain. I am not sure about this but KSG I think was not happy with the way his character progressed. And I feel that. So yeah people dont care prerna goes with whom. They only care for their favs becoming an integral part of the script. #TRUTH

Originally posted by: _symphony

@bold - I think the makers are to be blamed here! Clearly they are unable to write a strong story revolving ONLY around the leads like most other hit shows running currently (ye rishta, KHKT, ye rishte, choti sardarni, Jadu hai jinn ka) All these shows have no scope for a third wheel because their protagonists are written like that. Kasautii is not that show. The protagonists have no career or goals. No personality traits or grey shades that can become a 'Kasautii' for their relationship. Like those who have seen Kuch rang will know 2.5 years that show ran only because of erica and shaheer. That is a show you call ran because of the leads. But kasautii is not that. That's why they need third angles. So in case you bring in people who have massive fan followings (Hina/KSG/Namik) and then don't give them their due people are bound to complain. I am not sure about this but KSG I think was not happy with the way his character progressed. And I feel that. So yeah people dont care prerna goes with whom. They only care for their favs becoming an integral part of the script. #TRUTH

Symphony,

Very truly said and i dont disagree with you on giving actors what they deserve. Problem lies with story telling here. I have seen the show which you have mentioned here and yes it was good show with strong characters cant be compared here since its different show all together. Problem with kzk is their unorganic way of introducing third angles with leads. I know you have not watched the show from day 1 but i have and in every track start leads do something so contradicting that its like to fit in new characters they behave robotic or go back on their own character traits that have been introduced since start. Be it anupre or other fans here makers are hell bent on ruining ever character one after another either for baseless drama or to uplift new ones. That's why people here complain that leads are weak etc etc because their is no consistency in what they do. Who said they dont have kauties like their own family their career problems what not to show if only makers are smart enough to understand its 2020 and not 1999 its not nessary to always get leads to sacrificed or married to one another and call it kasuti in 2020 it looks so dumb. Makers themself hyped komo bajaj and introduced them in such a way that people who are following the show from start without knowing season 1 would ripping their heads offs by seeing what nonsese this writers are wiriting hence the dislike to see another character in this mix because this makers are not able to handle it in more profound way. Komo bajaj characters along with leads never suited in the situation in which they were presented to viewers.

Only thing i disagree here with you is massive following thing no actor or actress should be bigger than a show including anupre. Since the audiance now is more content driven or maybe performance driven its better if makers pay attention to story and what they are showing rather than gloating a selected characters and stop playing ping pong. Many have moved on some are still here to see whatever they like but big names should never be a core reason to turn show into comedy fest because you cant apply 2+2 common sense. Someone one rightly mentioned that this should be priod drama like how parineeta was with 3 or 4 good characters in picture with proper amount of justification to the actual love story but expecting anything from makers is like banging your head on the wall. We are seeing complains from ksg fans naimik fans and komo fans and every since show started even anupre fans have complained but it is what it is now. People have right to either watch it or leave it as per their choice.

Your last line cracked me up even though its true she is the FL of the show so people need to be able to connect to her since she and anurag are connecting dots for the 3 4 angles in this love story. Its not nessary that only pre needs to move on anu can also be shown to move on for triangle love story not always FL if people want to see actual love story and not just see couples for their favs but again that is just a thought because people have seen similar thing in season 1 which is old and can be watched again on hotstar nothing new. If makers can make some better story people are here to watch only if you give some consistency to main cast too and not only gloat negativeness in every episode. Just my point of view thats all. You dont break entire story in the middle of some track and turn everything upside down in characters just so that one can fit in you need to maintain it naturally and convincingly with proper buildup.

Viraj seems interesting right now and waiting to see how it unfolds home we see some good scenes of him and parth and even pre komo 👍 kzk introduced me to so many nice actors and actresses atleast thats a +.

Its was nice talking to you 👍 i do read your post sometimes they are really nice and thoughtful 🤗.

So a jodi with Prerna is needed to get Hero or Male Lead status ..... does that mean you accept your fav cannot establish himself just on the basis on interaction with other characters 😆.....

You bash, mock name call Prerna whole day but at the end you need same Prerna because then only a Hero status can be achieved 😆.....

Prerna is needed only to show down other Male lead or other pair .... if not Bajju then let’s support Viraj ... kal ko if Debu daa also comes then if he’ll get support .... anything.... ANYTHING to pull down AnuPre ..😆

I saw many claiming before Bajju track started how Male Lead will get over shadowed or how a chappar phad trp will come now and We all know what happened 😉🤣....Bajaj was even given dialogues putting Male lead down yes that’s how biased the writers got and wanted desperately to establish other pair ....

You can claim or make thousands of excuses .... Channel is not here for charity the moment they see AnuPre is not working they’ll change them immediately....

Not only KSG , Hina or Namik fans .... Parth and Erica fans themselves have been disappointed with the show .... but there is definitely something in KZK that these popular stars join it 😆..... ekta , channel , franchise many reasons ...and even it attracts fans whose favs are not even in the show yet they talk about it 😆.....

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Interesting povs here...will reply to the comments as I find time but tonight's epi proved as soon as anyone will begin to be liked or talked about by the audience (other than the leads) , they will crush that character. Last week they showed Viraj hates Prerna. He wants to kill her as he has some scores to settle and today suddenly he is doing all this for money. And he will go away as soon as marriage happens. LIKE WOW. 😑😑

Originally posted by: _symphony

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Interesting povs here...will reply to the comments as I find time but tonight's epi proved as soon as anyone will begin to be liked or talked about by the audience (other than the leads) , they will crush that character. Last week they showed Viraj hates Prerna. He wants to kill her as he has some scores to settle and today suddenly he is doing all this for money. And he will go away as soon as marriage happens. LIKE WOW. 😑😑

don't brighten your threshold by robbing the light off other's threshold !

Originally posted by: _symphony

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Interesting povs here...will reply to the comments as I find time but tonight's epi proved as soon as anyone will begin to be liked or talked about by the audience (other than the leads) , they will crush that character. Last week they showed Viraj hates Prerna. He wants to kill her as he has some scores to settle and today suddenly he is doing all this for money. And he will go away as soon as marriage happens. LIKE WOW. 😑😑

The shift is so sudden (though not unexpected by us) and makes me wonder why they added scenes suggesting personal vendetta in first place.

Wow interesting thread👏

This is the problem with the writers right from the beginning. They really havent been able to maintain consistency with any character. But I guess thats the problem with long running shows as we all know that its seriously business oriented and trp audience loves drama.

For drama sake they keep on playing with the characters time and again. The leads being elevated by butchering the third wheels had a phase where both of them were totally out of their characters. Prerna was made into a robot with no remorse for leaving him at the altar and absolutely becoming a lifeless soul. She gave no resistance to the person who destroyed so many lives. The writers were different (forum opinion) for Bajaj and gave him the best dialogues and scenes. On the other hand Anurag who has been shown to be a kind hearted loving soul was shown to plan his own accident. So this has been going on since long.

Atleast Viraj has got a definite negative character rather than different shades every episode.... grey white black and what not. So thats a welcome change in my opinion. Regarding him not getting scenes with female lead is just poor writing. The fandom being blamed for liking a pair just because others dont like them where the fault lies totally with the writers.

The writing has always been like that but still some watch the show for their own reasons. So its fair on their part. Now Namik chosing to accept this role shows what it means to have Balaji association. So let it be... he chose for himself and is getting paid for that. Just like Parica are doing for themselves for more than a year. The fans may or may not agree with the decision but at the end its their choice.

So far im liking the character of Viraj as he is a definite negative character as i already mentioned.

Originally posted by: munnihyderabad

knew this was coming, so not surprised, and this goes back to what I said in my first comment in this thread
3rd angle ka bali chadaake, leads ko elevate karna is CVs ke bhaaye haath ka kaam ...

an investment banker , who lost his wife and kid in accident, who was funding Basus , comes as prospective groom for Prerna, with no single meaningful convo or scenes between them, for obvious reasons.... he is kept away from all those secrets , how transparent are sharmas and Prerna

as the engagement comes closer ... he is turned negative , who wanted to revenge and avenge something , but wow 3rd angle is negative .. as if entire world is negative barring the leads

then he looks almost 2nd fiddle to komo who is flopping left right center with her juvenile plans, to tell frankly this is an insult and humiliation to Komo of S1 , but anyways to elevate the leads and keep their love on a pedestal ek aur character ka swaaha

@bold : so an investment banker turned khiraye ka prospective groom, is the character they reduced viraj to ??????????? .. in other topic of yours I said I didn't like, i was very apprehensive of the fact Namik joined KZK2, knowing the history of the show and today all my fears are coming true ..

one's failure is not someone's success, lead characters shd have proper characterizations and career (ohh wait what career ...when there is love ) and story should have meat (why meat,... when there is romance)


let's see how many more 3rd angles they will slaughter aage jaake .. to elevate the leads .

don't brighten your threshold by robbing the light off other's threshold !

Munniji,

Let's agree to disagree here in your point that all 3rd angles are slaughtered to elevate the leads. In the first track of this show, NB's character was not dumbed down to elevate either anu nor pre they all were the same as they were introduced Am i wrong to say that?. Komo and bajaj are part of old cast understood but the story doesn't have to be revolved around them only because they were somewhat famous in last season is what i heard in IF. In your post, you are saying leads are elevated but what we see until now in last 2 tracks is that leads are acting super dumb until the exposure of so-called 3rd angle and they suddenly get their brain back so if as per your assumption leads are elevated it should be reversed right? Why so many complains for leads if they are elevated more than 3rd angles all the time? Anu lost his brain in komo track so that komo can play sautan games. pre lost her entire inner self and emotions so that bajaj can become her hero ? That same anu who was smart enough to find the truth of NB from start in the first track and that same pre who was not giving two hoots to anukomo's social marriage just before bajaj track. So based on that where is the elevating factor and who is elevating who?. Where do you see leads being elevated here? Here viraj's character only seems to get more depth in one proper direction which is way better than swinging here and there like others.

From what i have seen so far is komo bajaj both had some kind of individuality to them before they were associated with anupre but so did anupre away from bajaj komo. Since this is anupre love story its maker's job to fit the third angle between anupre and not fit anupre according to bajaj or komo characters but that's how it has been well maybe not for komo bajaj fans but for both anu and pre fans it is hence so much of raita. Makers ko hype bhi karna hai and fir job kuch fit na ho to make comedy out of everything just for iconic characters.

Originally posted by: Wistfulness

That gave rise to some interesting theories and some people assumed that Viraj has a connection with RB. 😆

The shift is so sudden (though not unexpected by us) and makes me wonder why they added scenes suggesting personal vendetta in first place.

Ps. Nothing was sudden. It was something that everyone who didn't even watch the show had anticipated. No personal vendetta ever was there... it existed for the money made the character say so 😆 ab only ridiculous maut left from Komo, which I hope they don't go ahead with. 😆