Erica has to do better -DT NT Pg 8 - Page 2

Created

Last reply

Replies

75

Views

23.2k

Users

32

Likes

361

Frequent Posters

Pranchat thumbnail
7th Anniversary Thumbnail Navigator Thumbnail
Posted: 6 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Fairy_KimBokJoo

Ever since I've started watching this show in bits and pieces, all I've been doing is criticizing acting. Because it's not like the plot is even worthy to warrant criticism. Anyway, watched the Bajaj/Prerna scenes. The way KSG had been "acting" lately, I figured Erica would be able to keep up with him. However, the reality is different. Erica is bad in every scene with him. It's not dialogue delivery or any such thing. It's screen presence. Put next to KSG, she has absolutely no screen presence at all. It's interesting because while Parth and her have contradictory strengths as actors- Parth's good diction and her lack of it, her emotional range and Parth's lack of it- they don't visibly overpower each other onscreen. That is to say, you could point out who is acting better or worse but it doesn't create a visible disconnection between the pair. However, this case is very different. KSG and Erica have similar strengths and weaknesses as performers in theory. Meh dialogue delivery and good emotional range. But KSG's screen presence (coupled with the character strength) is completely overpowering Erica's Prerna. She is reduced to being a teenager trying to make inconsequential points. KSG has his own dialogue delivery issues, I am tired of going over and over it. But he is picking up the calm-amused oscillation to a certain extent. Erica however, just looks disinterested, and worse, like a petulant teenager. It's a combination of the weak characterization and the mediocre acting. Her character is terribly written. She herself looks under-confident and shaken in every scene with Bajaj. She is acting and reacting how she is supposed to but there is no life to it. Every scene between them is being controlled by KSG's Bajaj, and no, it's not just because he has the better written character. For instance, the scene where she tells him "I feel hate for you", she had the stronger comeback on paper. But when executed, it again looked like she is a lifeless doll mouthing heavy lines. Where's the presence? To top it all off, KSG isn't even acting that well in this show.

I physically cringed at the precap, it was that bad. She is acting like a young adult throwing a childish tantrum. The contrast is especially bad because Bajaj appears to be perpetually calm. So this tantrum-throwing behavior is exceedingly intensified. It's unbearable to watch. She has to do better if this "pairing" is a go.

Erica is really good in subtle scenes. KRPKAB, her character used that to the fullest extent and hence compared with Shaheer who has a strong screen pretense himself, she was able to hold her own ground. Sonakshi was a beautifully written character.

Prerna is over the top vivacious, clearly something which Erica cannot pull off if she has to mouth dialogues at the same time. Moreover, her the character has witnessed a very haphazard growth in terms of inconsistent writing because of which the connection with the viewer get disrupted the moment it starts to build up. In terms of screen presence Parth and Erica are very similar which works when they have to bounce dialogues off of each other. KSG on the other hand compensates for his dialogue delivery with his commanding on screen machiavellian persona.

NoraSM thumbnail
Sparkler Thumbnail 6th Anniversary Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 6 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: arshi_asya

Right now with his chracterization of Bajaj, KSG is better than everyone in this show. That's because his characterization & dialogues are powerful which demand an aura & body language, which KSG portrays convincingly. As for diction, KSG has a different voice tone which comes naturally to him. Some have very clear voices, some don't. But I can hear him perfectly, same applies to Erica but her characterization is very poor right now.

Yes. Mr. Bajaj's emotions and dialogues are to the point, I do not expect more from him, it will be a negative point for his character, if he gets worked up in front of AnuPre.

Prerna is weak in comparison to Mr. Bajaj and Anurag, this is her journey of reinvention, one clue from Bajaj and she won Mohini's love and acceptance. Maybe I am reading too much into it, but weak characterization is deliberate, not a fault in writing

Edited by NoraSM - 6 years ago
FarhaadkiMahi thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Achiever Thumbnail Visit Streak 30 Thumbnail
Posted: 6 years ago
#13

exactly the word jaan nahi hai scene me

i blame cvs prerna2 is so badly written character

Fairy_KimBokJoo thumbnail
8th Anniversary Thumbnail Navigator Thumbnail
Posted: 6 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: Salutethearmy

This is the way many of us speak Hindi. In the sense, catholics who are raised and reside close to the church in and around Mumbai. Genelia D'Souza ( Ritesh Desmukh"s wife) speaks in a similar tone.

I have seen KRPKAB and she aced in emotional scenes or those typical Tashan fights between husband and wife.

I feel she is a director's actor vs Parth who brings in a certain individuality to Anurag.

Diction issues never existed in KRP for me atleast. She was loud and clear. Infact SS went pretty low in his tone.

KSG as Mr. Bajaj cannot act like a 20 year old teen, Prerna is very meek in front of him. Anurag had similar traits in front of Komolika, he just gave up and Prerna is doing the same.

When fear is ruled out, Prerna may stand against him. I see a very desperate Pre

KSG's acting abilities will be tested when he takes care of his wife who is bound to a contract. Till then the ball lies in his court.

Maybe Erica has to work on her diction if it is an issue.

Look, her diction really isn't much of a problem for me. I noticed it during KRPKAB as well and ignored it. If anything, her diction has improved in this show. Kangana, Deepika etc have terrible diction but they manage well enough when it comes to emoting. Kangana especially. Diction is only one part of acting, not all of it. My problem with her was emoting in this case. There is a distinct lack of life in her that rendered the charged atmosphere lifeless throughout. It doesn't help that KSG's Bajaj is extremely calm, so her crying, her lack of energy come off worse than expected. To be honest, when she is supposed to enact hatred or disgust for him, she is even more ineffectual so far. So I'm not very sure, she'd do all that well when the fear is removed. The characterization is obviously bad, that cannot possibly be argued. But I'm not quite connecting to her acting either. I think they need to tone down the dramatic atmosphere by half if they want actually charged scenes between them.

Suchi_Ejf_fan thumbnail
8th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail Commentator Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 6 years ago
#15

I expected more from pre bajaj scene..... But makers give good and interesting dialogue to bajaj..... And prerna her dialogues were just ridiculous....

I agree I sometimes found Eri didn't in someone scene..... That time I felf she can do much better than this but she's not doing

I don't know when makers will paid attention to Prerna's character....

Fairy_KimBokJoo thumbnail
8th Anniversary Thumbnail Navigator Thumbnail
Posted: 6 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: Ayesha1980

In kuch rang Shaheer and Erica were bomb ..such a fantastic chemistry I am yet to see but I am having some hopes from KSG and Erica pairing becoz for me respect and maturity comes before any feels or push pull type love story. .I don't care how bad or ruthless is bajaj but one thing I know he is best for Prerna...

I am rooting for good mature love story between PreRish and I am sure she is going to improve a lot ..She is best at subtle scenes and here in kzk most of the time it has been ott and rona dhona for her.

Yes, I liked KRPKAB as well. You're right in saying that subtle stuff suits her. This is why it's futile to compare her Patnaik show performance with this. Because that was a whole other world altogether. She can emote but I am not sure why her emotions are leaving me cold in every Prerna/Bajaj scene. They absolutely cannot pull off this love-hate chemistry that Ekta has planned. All of their supposed tashan scenes are bad. Mostly because of the sudden injection of negative energy that Erica is bringing to it. And to think, I was ready with my pitchforks to drag KSG. Maybe they have a chance when or if the story moves to romance between them.

arshi_asya thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail Engager Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 6 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: Fairy_KimBokJoo

Look, her diction really isn't much of a problem for me. I noticed it during KRPKAB as well and ignored it. If anything, her diction has improved in this show. Kangana, Deepika etc have terrible diction but they manage well enough when it comes to emoting. Kangana especially. Diction is only one part of acting, not all of it. My problem with her was emoting in this case. There is a distinct lack of life in her that rendered the charged atmosphere lifeless throughout. It doesn't help that KSG's Bajaj is extremely calm, so her crying, her lack of energy come off worse than expected. To be honest, when she is supposed to enact hatred or disgust for him, she is even more ineffectual so far. So I'm not very sure, she'd do all that well when the fear is removed. The characterization is obviously bad, that cannot possibly be argued. But I'm not quite connecting to her acting either. I think they need to tone down the dramatic atmosphere by half if they want actually charged scenes between them.

@bold.

That's what I wanted to say yesterday. She was supposed to be fiery in that confrontation & emote hatred for this man which should have looked like challenging to Bajaj. But she did the exact opposite, it was weak, desperate, cringy & embarassing to watch her opposite Bajaj who was in his complete glory in that scene.

Fairy_KimBokJoo thumbnail
8th Anniversary Thumbnail Navigator Thumbnail
Posted: 6 years ago
#18

Originally posted by: NoraSM

I am the only one who thought KSG > Parth in BajRag scenes, given that Parth had most dialogues and basically the energy level of Anurag with his anger and frustration was higher than energy level of Mr. Bajaj who had calm and cool demeanor.

In Bajaj Prerna scene, Prerna was emotional with ridiculous dialogues, it did not create an impact for me, if anything I think she was wearing a wig and it distracted me. Mr. Bajaj was again calm but this time with better dialogues.

Why she says "A-rest" instead of "Arrest"?

I categorically disagree. I think Parth was better in the first encounter. KSG had his moments but when Parth was speaking, he was better. He had a natural flow that KSG lacked due to his odd dialogue delivery. That said, you have a point about Bajaj's calm demeanor. It's possible that he is trying to constantly keep his rage under control. We'll judge if/when he expresses his anger.

Bajaj/Prerna scenes are ridiculous, thanks to Prerna's hilarious dialogues and terrible screen presence.

Fairy_KimBokJoo thumbnail
8th Anniversary Thumbnail Navigator Thumbnail
Posted: 6 years ago
#19

Originally posted by: arshi_asya

Right now with his chracterization of Bajaj, KSG is better than everyone in this show. That's because his characterization & dialogues are powerful which demand an aura & body language, which KSG portrays convincingly. As for diction, KSG has a different voice tone which comes naturally to him. Some have very clear voices, some don't. But I can hear him perfectly, same applies to Erica but her characterization is very poor right now.

His characterization is better, I agree. But I have my issues with his new speaking style that I have discussed before. He can emote well and has great screen presence. I have a problem with Prerna's character and Erica's acting in Bajaj/Prerna scenes both.

Antara123 thumbnail
11th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 6 years ago
#20

When KSG started, I was slightly put off with the excess swag which seemed forced, but then, now Bajaj has grown on me, and I have started naturally relating to that put on swag as natural. I knew this when KSG's Bajaj started feeling normal to me.

As far as Erica's acting is concerned, I think her acting as such is fine, but her dialogue delivery is bad man. And as you said, it came off childish and petulant, and the other thing with the dialogues, idk how many noticed, but she's the only who says, Aap aise HO instead of HAIN, and that again adds to the childishness of of her character. And even her dialogues yesterday weren't great (Haven't watched today's), yeah but she's getting owned by Bajaj. Unlike her, I felt Anurag was more in control.

Bajaj technically owns both of them coz well, he's won and they have lost. But Anurag still came off stronger with excellent screen presence in my opinion. Bajaj didn't seem to overpower Anurag and neither did KSG to Parth. Especially the first confrontation. Even Bajaj felt like he was facing a good loser. This time, he's literally having fun with some kid. That's how it seems. 😆

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".