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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Jenny2017--



Good post. Thought-provoking and nice to read. Though I have to disagree on a few points.

@Bold- That statement dosen't capture the full picture. Firstly, there have been quite a few shows in recent times which defy that trend that you've spoken about. Ek Duje Ke Vaaste, KRPKAB and Dehleez being three of them. All these three shows portrayed the FL on par with the male lead. Even superior than the male lead on a lot of occasions. Sumo from EDKV was lovely. Independent woman with a mind of her own. Was always on par with Shravan. Never bogged down and took crap from anyone. Sonakshi from KRPKAB was the strongest on-screen lady I've seen in recent times. She was portrayed as emotionally stronger than Dev. And superior to him on many occasions. She worked hard and even brought herself to the same financial level as Dev by becoming a gun business-woman. Not that her middle-class status pre-leap was an issue, but the fact that she rose to the same level financially as well, was highly impressive portrayal. She was anyways his equal (and superior in many aspects) but the bizwoman portrayal added another feather to her cap. You must watch Dehleez. Lovely show with a gripping story and great balance between the ML and the FL. Swadheenta was always Adarsh's equal.

Another thing to add. While it is always good to have shows that portray the FL on par and superior to the ML, it is not a rule that a show cannot be well-made if it dosen't follow this method. Case in point, Sony's recent show- YPNTKH. Beautiful show. The genre of that show had a lot of variety. Romance, mystery, thriller. Amalgamation of all these genres was done very well. In that show, the journey of the ML was more prominent. It was essentially his journey. And hence he got more leverage as a character. But that didn't affect the quality of the show. Because there was a valid reason for that. The show had a complex plot in the first place and incorporating stuff like the FL's career and giving her the lion's share of attention would have made the story go bonkers. So you see, it's the requirement of the show which decides how the balance between the ML and the FL should be. EDKV, KRPKAB and Dehleez succeeded beautifully by keeping the FL superior. YPNTKH succeeded by doing the opposite. So, shows cannot be judged with one common yardstick. Ultimately, it boils down to good script-writing. KZK 2 dosen't have that. They can very well keep Anurag superior. Nothing wrong in that as such. But there's a method to do that. And the writers here clearly don't know it.

@Red- What's wrong in that? A person plays many roles in his/her life and a lot of those roles are mutually exclusive from each other. Dev was a fantastic son and a great brother. He made a lot of mistakes as a husband but that dosen't take away his beauty as a son and a brother. What's the issue then if people praise the brother and son in him? That's perfectly alright and logical.

Regarding the engagement being broken- Well, if you ask me, it was not Dev who was fully responsible for Sona-Rithwik's engagement being broken. It was Sona who was majorly responsible. Firstly, Dev hadn't gone there to break the engagement. He had gone there just to see Sona for one last time. And he had gone after receiving a proper invitation. He didn't barge into the engagement un-invited. And the guy didn't mean any harm whatsoever. Upon reaching there, apologised to Sona for his mistake, cursed his weakness, hailed her strength, apologised to Rithwik, congratulated Sona-Rithwik and genuinely wished them a great life ahead.

He did drink a lot and accidently collapsed and we know what happened later. So yes, from a moral perspective, he was definitely responsible for creating chaos and disturbance. But why should we give Sona a clean chit? He got heavily drunk and accidentally collapsed. Fair enough. Why run away from your own engagement and escort him to his house? Saurabh and Elena were present there. Why not tell them to look after him? Why run away yourself? And it was not a spur-of-the-moment thing. Saurabh had tried to stop her but she still left the engagement. She was in her mind and senses. Why not question Sona's own agency in taking a decision? Is she a puppet that Dev will fall and she'll run? A person is his/her own master and putting the weight of your actions/decisions on someone else's shoulders is cowardness. Sona had done that. Blaming Dev but not accepting her own fault. Dev created chaos by collapsing but the engagement broke because of Sona. Not him.

Hope I didn't offend you. I respect your views as well :-)



Of course you have not offended me.

Just a few clarifications in relation to my original post.

The point I made is that I have NOT seen many serials so based on my views, as I mention, on the interviews of some actors and the names people mention a lot on social media. None of the ones I have seen as successfully running have female leads as more important - if we are lucky they are just equal or less important . I myself gave examples of a few which I understood had important female leads - like the original Kasauti, Yeh Rishta and YHM.

Thank you for adding a few more examples. Haven't seen Ek Duje ke vaaste so will take your word for the storyline. I saw Dehleez and really liked it. As far as I am aware these were not successful serials and had very short lives. At least Dehleez did. Such a pity because Dehleez had so much potential. I guess that tells me something about the TRP of a storyline that has a strong and alternative female lead. InKRPKAB I mention the fact that Dev is called a good son and MAN (not brother) and no if I was a middle class educated girl I would not think someone was a good man if he made me lose my job just so that I could work for his mother. It seems weird to discuss specific scenes of that serial in this forum so I will leave it at that. I don't know the full form of the other show you mention YPNTKH.

I should say though I don't have a problem with stories that have strong male leads. I just don't like the trend of creating a strong male lead at true expense of female lead. You can show that someone has good intelligent and smart without showing someone else as being stupid, weak or afraid.


Edited by UKGirl22 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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^^ Dahleez was a finite series. It did not end abruptly due to low TRP or something.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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^YPNTKH is Yeh Pyaar Nahi Toh Kya Hai which aired on Sony TV.
It's a brilliant series and a must watch.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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It's so funny this time they made prerna so weak. Old prerna was anything but weak. She was such a strong woman to become single mother stand on her feet but here they have made her so weak. Disappointed big time.u can't blame anurag when prerna herself is shown as some weak character This time around
Edited by SakthLaunda - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: LaalGulab

^^ Dahleez was a finite series. It did not end abruptly due to low TRP or something.



It was a finite series but it was pulled long before they intended because it didn't get enough TRP. I was very sad it ended. i would link articles if I had the technical capability for it 😆.

I think finite series are the way forward for India. I mentioned this in another post. It will keep the stories fresh and really allow the writers to stay true to the original plot and character sketch.
Edited by UKGirl22 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mishti_Dahi

^YPNTKH is Yeh Pyaar Nahi Toh Kya Hai which aired on Sony TV.

It's a brilliant series and a must watch.



Is it still on? Will definitely check it out. Thanks
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: SakthLaunda

It's so funny this time they made prerna so weak. Old prerna was anything but weak. She was such a strong woman to become single mother stand on her feet but here they have made her so weak. Disappointed big time.u can't blame anurag when prerna herself is shown as some weak character This time around



It's very difficult to compare the two and probably not fair. By episode 25 (I understand) the old prerna was abandoned or something along those lines. These are two very different stories and characters. Maybe because I am not someone who has any experience with Ekta Kapoor serials is maybe because I like Erica so much I am going to keep hoping for more. SOMEONE KILL ME!
Edited by UKGirl22 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: UKGirl22



Is it still on? Will definitely check it out. Thanks


No, it was abruptly shut down due to trp issue. I guess serials shutting down to Trp is a sign that it's of highest quality.

The story wasn't incomplete but you know, it could've explored so much more.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mishti_Dahi



No, it was abruptly shut down due to trp issue. I guess serials shutting down to Trp is a sign that it's of highest quality.

The story wasn't incomplete but you know, it could've explored so much more.



Maybe for the sake of my blood pressure I should only watch serials that have been pulled for low TRP, then I'll know I am watching something good.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Zaya.hp

I don't have anything to add to this. You spoke very thought of mine. The utter inconsistency to glorify the hero is the stupidest part of this serial. Erica deserves a better role.

The thing is most part of the audience what hung these shows casting young people are girls. And they are happy to praise the hero for merely existing in the serial. Dev was such a flawed character. And he didn't deserve Sonakshi one bit. But nobody seems to wrap their brain around that part. The Anurag description part was so badly timed and shot in yesterday's epsiode I felt like laughing. He does simple things like calling police and he is called BRAINY! Coool.



Agreed Dev was a flawed character. He probably didnt deserve Sona. But are we forgetting that Dev repented A LOT for his mistakes? He was never portrayed as some mahaan person when he made wrong decisions except probably in the last few months of season 1 and even in S1 was bashed brutally by some fans. But anyway, OT I completely agree that Anurag is dumb n glorified in the show. Prerna's character is nt developed AT ALL. What do we know of Prerna except that she is a family girl? The inconsistencies in her character is just poor writing. How come such a big budget show doesn't even have decent writers who can maintain the continuity n consistency in characters?
I dont know about Ishqbaaz but yeah in most of Ekta's serials FL is dumb and wannabe smart n mahaan. And ML is responsible for saving his damsel in distress everytime and thats glorified. I dont think its gonna change as Ekta believes this brings trps and its kind of true as well. Look at Kdb. 2nd on Trp charts with absolutely no story, tracks dragging on for months and overacting by almost everyone.

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