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Posted: 18 years ago
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Have not watched Today's episode...

"Mea Culpa"

The leaves tell _of the flowers death _of the hours spent
_in this graveyard _no one tending to its pain _no one tending to its
shame
__The sin is all mine __


This past weeks episodes finally culminated to what I had been saying in
my few posts all along that JW as a parent has placed Bani's children's
lives in danger… this was bound to happen sooner or later…as his rapist/
his wife's murderer was lurking around at WM with the custody paper
trump card in her hands all along. Her threat could have been nullified in
these past five years….JW as the man, he is depicted to be could have
done anything to ensure the safety of his children, if not as a man then
atleast as a father…(lets not go into how he could have even tried to clear
his beloved wife's name from the Sahil murder daag on her)

(This reminds me of some past earlier episodes where JW was the Raging
Bull when Pia/Push happened..JW raged like a wounded lion, he moved
Heaven and Earth to punish PP…to me as a viewer that kind of passionate
intensity that was displayed by JW in the destruction of PP has never been
shown again…JW sexual ego was hurt at that time, he had wanted Pia as a
man wants a woman…the extent of his desire for her is very evident in
that intense display of destruction…never has so much intense
destructive passion been depicted in this character. With Bani.)
In these past five years he should have been able to as a man of his
caliber and stature to nullify what is transpiring in his and Bani's
children's lives today)

-A father has put his children's lives in danger…(inspite/despite the
circumstances)

-Pia has gone into Bani Full Killer Mode..(this was to be accepted)

-Pia has used her trump card to the fullest…that JW seemed to have
dismissed as bakwaas all along…

So, JW Fatal Attraction has a script ready for him …a script where it is
written that Pia was his first love, well he did say at one time "I love Pia"
and he did say to Pia at one time before going to Dubai "Pyar tumse kiya,
Shaadi ussey" and he did say to Pia that you were my first love..
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Bani's Situation…

In past Friday's episode, Bani agrees to marry AD because she wants to
give happiness to a woman who has loved her, a stranger, and embraced
her as her own daughter…

Let me say, to me, in Friday's episode all actors were splendid, all of
them.. be it JW/Pia or MIL AD and Durga/Bani….all of the actors were just
upto par….in sync..it was one of the best episodes of late….in pacing, in
acting....

Bani says that she has lived for her own till now and for the ones that she
has loved, but why not live for someone who loves her? As life is indeed
bigger than us. The need to fight the obstacles and not give in to them.
AD has taught her to live.

Bani,, it seems for the first time after her mother's death has experienced
a mother's love with AD MIL….(I like the MIL)..If one listens to Bani's
dialogue, it is defining her current pov…why she is making the decision
that she is…

The A-Durga scene in the garden was one of the most touching scenes
ever…it was filled with so much pain and tenderness..these two really do
understand each other..more so AD..he understands Bani's pain, Bani's
difficulty in saying yes, he knows about her, he knows her inside out, and
he wants her happiness, I love how they shot this scene, the framing of
the ADurga shot perfectly depicted both the characters difficult situation
with AD in the background and Bani/DDG in foreground…him wanting to
give her a sign that he understands her pain, sorrow-- how hard this
decision must have been for her…he reluctantly places his hand on her
shoulder to assure her that he is with her, that everything will be
allright…that he understands….One of the best scenes of late in KS post
leap..

Bani/DDG was shown as a woman who has loved so faithfully and lost so
ruthlessly by the soul shattering betrayal of ppl whom she had loved and
considered to be her own...this was an episode for a woman who has lost
everything, even her own life, to perhaps consider the possibility of
embracing another chance at life…

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Posted: 18 years ago
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If AD understands her pain and suffering so much why is he still lying to her. Why did he tell her that Jai and Pia are living like man and wife with all the benefits, when he knows that is not true. If AD knows Bani inside out he knows that telling her that Jai cannot stand Pia would reduce the pain significantly, yet he stands quiet not wanting to loose his weapon. Hell he even gets the woman he loves knowing that this is not what she wants and its an obligation for her. Well I guess AD can do no wrong. He has never hurt Bani. Everything he does is to protect only her. He has no agenda.

If massi who shradded her own son for Bani was not a mother to her, than I have nothing more to say. This mother is forcing Bani to marry her son against her will after Bani categorically said no, while the other mother disowned her son to support Bani.
Edited by moudeb2005 - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: moudeb2005

If AD understands her pain and suffering so much why is he still lying to her. Why did he tell her that Jai and Pia are living like man and wife with all the benefits, when he knows that is not true. If AD knows Bani inside out he knows that telling her that Jai cannot stand Pia would reduce the pain significantly, yet he stands quiet not wanting to loose his weapon. Hell he even gets the woman he loves knowing that this is not what she wants and its an obligation for her. Well I guess AD can do no wrong. He has never hurt Bani. Everything he does is to protect only her. He has no agenda.

If massi who shradded her own son for Bani was not a mother to her, than I have nothing more to say. This mother is forcing Bani to marry her son against her will after Bani categorically said no, while the other mother disowned her son to support Bani.

Am with you on this Mou. If AD is genuinely not wanting to hurt Bani why does he keep twisting the knife in her wounds all the time? If the MIL is truly clued in to both AD and Bani she should know that Bani is unwilling to marry AD and Jeet is superimposing Bani on the memory of his lost love. Who is genuine in Deb Mansion? Here too everyone is a user.

Somali

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: moudeb2005

If AD understands her pain and suffering so much why is he still lying to her. Why did he tell her that Jai and Pia are living like man and wife with all the benefits, when he knows that is not true. If AD knows Bani inside out he knows that telling her that Jai cannot stand Pia would reduce the pain significantly, yet he stands quiet not wanting to loose his weapon. Hell he even gets the woman he loves knowing that this is not what she wants and its an obligation for her. Well I guess AD can do no wrong. He has never hurt Bani. Everything he does is to protect only her. He has no agenda.

If massi who shradded her own son for Bani was not a mother to her, than I have nothing more to say. This mother is forcing Bani to marry her son against her will after Bani categorically said no, while the other mother disowned her son to support Bani.

i agree with you.if he really understand Bani's pain then why is he hiding truth about JW from her.

MIL is tottaly selfish.She just think about AD.bani clearly said NO to her then she can't see that Bani is not happy with this marriage.she is Blackmailed her.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Milkey/Somali/Mou,

Totally agree with you guys. The whole bunch Adbhoot, the Hippo Mom and the duplicate sisters are all a bunch of nautankis. Poor Bani is in for an even greater heartbreak. She will possibly be manipulated by the bunch into destroying not only JW but also Rano, the faithful sister who has been a Yashoda to her kids. And then when she finds out the truth will be completely shattered.

Bavie,

(The A-Durga scene in the garden was one of the most touching scenes ever…)

I guess you haven't seen KS pre ONS. 😉

(he knows her inside out)

Yes, he does. And that's why he never allowed her and JW to spend a few minutes together in the Ganesha Mandir episode, he immeidately tried to run her over.

(he wants her happiness)

Yes. That's why he sent those slumdwellers to burn the house where her kids live. 😉

Rgds,

Pri



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Posted: 18 years ago
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AD has taught her to live.
***Ofcourse, he has taught her to live in anger, live with revenge and above all live in misunderstanding that her husband doesnt love her and he is the main culprit!

these two really do
understand each other..more so AD..he understands Bani's pain, Bani's
difficulty in saying yes, he knows about her, he knows her inside out
***When he knows her so much, then why didnt he tell her the truth that JW doesnt love Pia, instead of telling that JW has been living with Pia as husband and wife for all these 5 years! If he cares so much, then why allow her to suffer in the pain that she has been betrayed by her husband!
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Mou/ Somali/ Milkey/Pri,

You guys took the words out of my mouth…

AD understands Bani's pain so why does he not try to reduce the pain especially since he knows that is hurting the Bani the most. Bani is hurt cos Jai loves Pia and not her…If you remember, she said she lost belief in loves and this shows it all and since he understands bani's pain, why is not trying to ease it?

Well, I don't find any great difference between JW and AD…if JW is giving Pain to Bani, so is AD by hiding the information which could actually reduce the very pain…Remember, after all, AD and JW are the chip off the old block.😉

AD's MIL and selflessness…please I don't even what to go into her…Like others said, Masi is one woman who threw her OWN son cos he hurt Bani…but here, MIL does not care about Bani but she cares only about her own son more than Bani…

Well, all I want to say is, AD is not that great as everyone is making him out to be.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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I'm in two minds over this🤔....

Kreatives have constructed a very complicated character.....on one hand AD has lied to DDG and is only using her for revenge (reason; as of yet not know - most likely Mayi ish-style).......on the other hand we see a very soft side to his character (brought out wonderfully by RR👏) who is ready to give rather than take.....I'm not sure if it's love; but yes he does feel something for her where he wants to protect her and care for her - though that's not possible whilst JW is on the scene and hence his 'distorted' truths to DDG...

I do think that if he wants to stay with her; then he should tell her everything.......Bani has been hurt already; seen more blows than she can take and I'm sure this will not help to improve her emotional situation....

However; if he doesn't confide in her then he'll be committing the same mistake that JW did and end up losing Bani.....temporarily or permanently; Kreatives will decide that!

But I'm sure DDG still has some Banigiri in her and will get to the bottom of it all.....

As for JW - Totally agree........he's been butchered left, right, and centre.....Even Sahil's character seems more appealing besides him😳.....

The only reason I want JB together is because I love my Munna and I'm a JB despo.....warna if I'd just started watching KS it would be DDG-AD for me!

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Love your post Bavie. I love the scene you mentioned too. RR is simply amazing as AD. That man rocks, till date I have appreciated all his scenes.
Nevertheless I still wish Bani agreed to marry AD for more convincing reasons rather than a kasamh. good observations. With regard to JP nothing that we did not envisage, so no surprises there. Let's see what else Ekta has in store for us. 👏 👏
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Milkeyway:
i agree with you.if he really understand Bani's pain then why is he hiding truth about JW from her.

What truth is AD hiding? That JW was blackmailed into sending her to jail? That he didn't have the resources or the smarts to free her, to save her despite repeated proclamation of how Bani is his life? Or that he was and still continues to be helpless?

Bavie is right. Look at the havoc he wrecked when Pia ran away with Push. Look at how he treated Bani to avenge Pia. He used all legal as well as illegal means to destroy Pia and Push. Remember buddha Chauhan? Remember Push being framed? remember bhaiya begging JW to have mercy? And look at him now. All he does is fall at the very same Pia's feet and she says "chaliye uthiye... ab taiyyar ho jaiye". Ah, how the mighty have fallen!!!

Aash, how is AD instigating Bani for revenge? You mean, Bani's revenge is not justified? Should she just forget the pre leap treatment? What do you recommend for Bani? I've been hearing that Bani should take her own revenge. How? Where are the resources? She depends on AD for her food, housing, clothing. That very same Bani who had such a sense of self esteem that she wouldn't borrow from her own hubby for Pia's treatment, instead went to work for a competitor during pregnancy, endangering her unborn to earn money for Pia's operation; that very same bani, in these five years, has never thought of standing on her own two feet once. You expect this Bani to plan revenge?

Whether AD planned the entire fiasco or not is yet to be explored. We like to think it is he who is the mastermind because (1) we think Pia is not smart enough and (b) we are so threatened by the possibility of him overtaking the story that we would much rather he had no redeeming qualities. Pia is plenty smart. A mastermind too needs a smart player and she has lived up to her startegizing so well that I would not be surprised if it turns out that she herself was the grandmaster all along. AD can be a villain and yet have some redeeming qualities. That is where the three dimensionality of characters come in. I really don't understand why we have to paint some all bad and some others all good, some strategizing all the time, some grinning and gaping all the time. I wish they showed more balance. I wish we interpreted more balance.

Abha
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