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Posted: 18 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: sangitadas

A good post and good discussion too.

I agree with a lot of points mentioned here.

But personally I feel the storyline of KS has been written and the script formulated in such a way that everytime a major track is solved, involving either JW or BW, the aftermath hasnt been handled properly and we had never been shown as to what happens between JnB or to either of them individually.

This same feeling has percolated to the chief protagonists too and their actions or thought processes have never been justified. And the Creatives are definitely short-sighted, they think that once we have created a character and the audience have taken to him/ her, our job is over. What they dont realise is that it is a long drawn out process and just like human beings grow everyday, the characters also need to grow everyday and learn from their mistakes. Unfortunately this never happens and hence we have a great character like JW being turned into a feeble character. They have not allowed him to grow.

Similar is the case with Bani. Until and unless these two and other imp characters grow, they will all continue going downhill, much to our dismay and concern.



Amen to that Sangs...👏
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Posted: 18 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: sangitadas

A good post and good discussion too.

I agree with a lot of points mentioned here.

But personally I feel the storyline of KS has been written and the script formulated in such a way that everytime a major track is solved, involving either JW or BW, the aftermath hasnt been handled properly and we had never been shown as to what happens between JnB or to either of them individually.

This same feeling has percolated to the chief protagonists too and their actions or thought processes have never been justified. And the Creatives are definitely short-sighted, they think that once we have created a character and the audience have taken to him/ her, our job is over. What they dont realise is that it is a long drawn out process and just like human beings grow everyday, the characters also need to grow everyday and learn from their mistakes. Unfortunately this never happens and hence we have a great character like JW being turned into a feeble character. They have not allowed him to grow.

Similar is the case with Bani. Until and unless these two and other imp characters grow, they will all continue going downhill, much to our dismay and concern.

Brilliantly put sangs...👏

you make our discussions seem futile😳
I couldnt have put it in any better way myself!

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Posted: 18 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: babethatsme

Brilliantly put sangs...👏

you make our discussions seem futile😳
I couldnt have put it in any better way myself!

haila kya bol rahi ho shrut....so this discussion is over see i got up early, saw this page n came on it with a bigsmile in "chal padosan jhagda kare"😆mood n now u say discussion futile, i was ready with my missiles😆

ok but ya jokes apart well said sang, i wud also say all the fault lies with the writers, they dont show any one's character growing...its all going downhill, n i am talking bout the characters that were there when KS started, all these add on's are getting on my nerves now, chacha chachi gaye to clones aa gaye to irritate.

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Posted: 18 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: sanam84

haila kya bol rahi ho shrut....so this discussion is over see i got up early, saw this page n came on it with a bigsmile in "chal padosan jhagda kare"😆mood n now u say discussion futile, i was ready with my missiles😆

ok but ya jokes apart well said sang, i wud also say all the fault lies with the writers, they dont show any one's character growing...its all going downhill, n i am talking bout the characters that were there when KS started, all these add on's are getting on my nerves now, chacha chachi gaye to clones aa gaye to irritate.

Sam this is the first time on this thread tht we are agreeing.

The point is when we criticise the characters we are indirectly blaming the writers, since it is their brainchild. The show has many loop holes, so many tht we have lost count. What i listed are some of the loop holes acc. to me, in Jai's character!

The clones are irritating cos we are seeing the same thing again, and its nt entertaining...Its like the writers are stuck, cant mvoe ahead and so are going behind, which is ruining the serial even more!

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Posted: 18 years ago
#85
Sam/Shruti,

(The point is when we criticise the characters we are indirectly blaming the writers)

It is OK if writers create characters who are heavily flawed and criticisable becuase that would only be human. The real problem is when characters are created which are completely inconsistent. For instance no tycoon would behave like JW. No self-serving sister like Jigs would ever want to thro out Bani in favour of Pia/Cobra, no mom would hate her bhabhi for saving her daughter from marrying a khandaani OCD.

Rgds,

Pri
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Posted: 18 years ago
#86

Originally posted by: majumdar

Sam/Shruti,

(The point is when we criticise the characters we are indirectly blaming the writers)

It is OK if writers create characters who are heavily flawed and criticisable becuase that would only be human. The real problem is when characters are created which are completely inconsistent. For instance no tycoon would behave like JW. No self-serving sister like Jigs would ever want to thro out Bani in favour of Pia/Cobra, no mom would hate her bhabhi for saving her daughter from marrying a khandaani OCD.

Rgds,

Pri

Exactly Pri, i am not very good with words but that is wot i feel, the character are very unrealistic. Jigs sud keep Bani as she loves money n Bani does not, with Pia she wud hav to share...so the J factor sud be with Pia. karuna ka to pucho hi mat her reason for hating Bani is the weirdest, I mean a mom cant hate someone for saving the daughter. Ranveer was so much 'in love husband' but for 5 yrs he has not visited Rashi…by reading the updates I guess she is still alive. Or am I mistaken.

Characters come and go for no rhyme or reason. Where is Nattu…where is chacha chachi…wot happened to Barnali…n wot bout that Doc n Phuskar…..not that I miss any of them but just thinking…naye lane se pehle purano ko to salta do.

Sam

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Posted: 18 years ago
#87

Originally posted by: sanam84

Exactly Pri, i am not very good with words but that is wot i feel, the character are very unrealistic. Jigs sud keep Bani as she loves money n Bani does not, with Pia she wud hav to share...so the J factor sud be with Pia. karuna ka to pucho hi mat her reason for hating Bani is the weirdest, I mean a mom cant hate someone for saving the daughter. Ranveer was so much 'in love husband' but for 5 yrs he has not visited Rashi…by reading the updates I guess she is still alive. Or am I mistaken.

Characters come and go for no rhyme or reason. Where is Nattu…where is chacha chachi…wot happened to Barnali…n wot bout that Doc n Phuskar…..not that I miss any of them but just thinking…naye lane se pehle purano ko to salta do.

Sam

Sam, we all are agreeing on the fact that what they are showing on televison is completely unrealistic. they have never happened under normal circumstances and maybe never will. Maybe we can put it is a figment of imagination. But then again, the imagination, is stuck, is not logical.

I believe that they are showing a serial on a major channel and at prime time. this obviously means that tere is a large audience for it, and however bad the trps, they do show that this show has people watching it. Now i dont understand why cant something relevant, logical and realistic be shown!

I mean arent the creatives people, or are they some extra terrestial characters, in whose world things happen like this. Which father is this way, which mother leaves her children for revenge or vows to destroy for her children, which brother would let his sister get away with all wrongs, which husband would nt be with his ailing wife because she wished for it to be so, which mother will do a shradh and then welcome the same son with open arms, which sister will allow her husbands rapist to stay under the same roof. I can go on and on.

Shruti

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Posted: 18 years ago
#88


Great post Shruti!



But unrealistic is the word I chose to describe Kekta's land. Simply because what showed and still are doing never happened before or even maybe will never happen in future under any normal situation.


Rgds


jojo

Edited by Jojo_han - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
#89
shruti,

u r right there when said large number of people see the show... but not because of it is as good as old one... but it is running in a prime time... the channel or BT doesn't care about the satisfaction... they make sure each episodes are up in correct time... realistic stories are flop - that is ekta invention long back... so when bomb blast peoplw on top of it will just fall away and found on top of each other... no pieces .... same hospital, same doctor.. same people... very famous business tycoon and family, still bani doesn't even need to cover her hair to travel up and down in the airport or in the same city or in the same hospital....

unrealistic stories like back to the future etc had entertained our world... but trying to be in the so called unrealistic entertainer they become someone who caught the tiger's tail... now they are rounding rounding in circle around the tiger... who will win... if people improve their standard of enjoyment then BT will soon find inside the tiger stomach... or they have to go strong and good...

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