What kind of man is this Mr. Jai Walia? - Page 8

Originally posted by: babethatsme

well thts where we differ...he makes 'fatal' mistakes...and very easily puts the blame on some1 else or circumstances...

and if we clap with two hands, then one is always Jai's but the blame is also on Bani's hand! why?

cant ul ever see his mistakes...this is hypocricy...blatant at tht too

shrut🤣dont make me laugh so much main mar jaoongi phir tu kisetaag karegi.

matlab u make a post depicting all JW's fault….not a single fault or mistake of any one else, is Bani also not wrong??? N if she is then y did u not point that in your post. We r replying to the post u made, defending JW's mistake so we r hypocrites or it is hypocrisy…….but look at ur post dear then point a finger at us??????

i agree with this...completely...why such a two-faced atitude?

why only blame JW????? i put the Q to u now 'why such a two-faced atitude?'

Make a post n quote all Bani's mistakes n I will defend her in my own way n I did that when JW had sent her to jail…lied in court…took her kids away I supported Bani.

it is very simple to say he is a flawed human being...but isnt he too falwed for his own and everyone elses good?and if u make such fatal mistakes and then realise them, the realisation is of no use!

Dear Babe, JW has flaws in his character, he is only human. Maybe he might have more flaws in him then others, but, still, I choose to love him because of his capability of understanding, forgiving, loving, repentance, for giving second, third, forth chances........

-Yes he is too flawed for his own good - when Bani came to him on the KC night in Dubai, he should not have accepted her without an explanation. Bani killed this man in every which way possible up to then in the name of saving his fortune.

- Yes, he should have had Bani for bhoot worshipping. Especially, after he found out that this bhoot had deliberately thrown herself in front to a innocent man's car, got herself killed and then her accomplice alcoholic bhoot husband cursed this same innocent man for the death. An innocent man lived for how long with this guilt? How many seconds did Bani spent in saying sorry and repent for this matter? Who quickly did Bani go back to bhoot worshipping after this?

- Yes he should have told Bani about the ONS and told her the reasons that drove him to this situation

- He should have kicked Billo and everyone else out of his house, when Billo did his shraddh.

- When the actual truth about the ONS came out, he should have confronted his GFN family and the Dixit clan with it and told Bani never to mention Pia again in his presence,

- When Bani wanted to bring back his rapist in his home, he should have kicked both Bani and Pia out of this universe.

- When Pia's snooping lead to Bani's framing he should have told Bani exactly whose fault it was that lead to her being framed for murder.

- When Bani signed the custody of her children to Pia, he should have gone and put Bani out of her misery for good.

So, yes, JW is too flawed for his own good, but he is NOT too flawed for me. I love him because I myself would have been far less companionate, understanding and forgiving.

and if u make such fatal mistakes and then realise them, the realisation is of no use!

Why not. So you are saying that, if someone understands their mistake and truely repents for them, they shouldn't be forgiven? Then, I am grossly flawed as I believe that a true repentent should be forgiven. As a flawed charecter myself, I understand and can relate to JW and thus, I like him.

well thts where we differ...he makes 'fatal' mistakes...and very easily puts the blame on some1 else or circumstances...

Please clarify: What 'Fatal mistakes'? Who did he blame for his mistakes and which circumastances did he blame?

and if we clap with two hands, then one is always Jai's but the blame is also on Bani's hand! why?

That is because Bani is the other hand. As you yourself said, if we clap with 2 hands, then 1 hand is JW's, that's fine - he is flawed. But then, we are left with the other hand and that hand belongs to Bani and thats why the blame goes to her as well.

cant ul ever see his mistakes...this is hypocricy...blatant at tht too

Most of us who like JW have always admitted that he is flawed and said that these very flaws are the reson we like him. We do admit his mistakes, so where do you see hipocricy?

why such a two-faced atitude?

This post you made, asks Qs about JW and as such those of us who like him are here to defend him. If you made a post about other charecters then their respective defenders would be here. What did you expect from this post? Did you mean this post to be a JW bashing post and as such, you expected JW bashers here? Because some of us defended JW, we are two faced, why?

I thought that you wanted a healthy discussion. In my understanding a healthy discussion has both defence and prosecution. Or am I missing something here?

Sonia.

hiya..

Well asked why cant we ever discuss JW without getting bani in : simple as JW's all problems start with her and end with her look at all points mentioned and all flaws are pointed saying he never succeded in fulfilling his duties as a husband

During divorce drama I still remember the teej day when bani tells him she would hav gone for abortion but it is late so she cant now,after listening those golden words from her mouth do u still expect him to go to bani and clarify whether she indeed aborted or not .
But after abu accident bani had an alternative she could hav left pia in hosp paid all bills but what is the necessary to get her back to WM and shove on JW and Co.

Abt Jiggs ecsotting scott free after entire drama was over why did not bani ever tell JW that it was jigs and ranveer behind this but she decided to ignore this as she felt jigs is his sister.
Hmmm abt Pia still bck in WM well I said long bck its all thanks to K-Laws and abt jigs and karuna still playing around well they are pia's chali's and are living under her support .

Abt hirring a lawyer for bani if I am right didn't adi go behind all lawyers but they seem to refuse to take up the case.

If JW dies …the kids future all I hav to say JW did not think so much but we still don't know what is in his will and how is property is divided maybe he has secured his kids future long back..but too much gals if he dies hahaha.

But one thing I want to point out is when jigs involvement in UW case came out it was choice for JW b/w his father(dead and GFN) and bani and he clearly choose bani over his dead wronged father.

Finally abt supporting JW and blaming bani if I am right maximum posts always come up blaming ya bashing ya pro JW and that's why u find munna campers standing and defending him while I don't see many pro amma posts its not she has done no mistakes but if pulled up we will deffo get one.

(Nice well written post!!!........you beat me to it.......................... well these
are all the pts i put forward all the time..........you have done a beautiful
job of it............. and i totally agree with you ........
As for as the kind JW is........he never ceases to amaze
me..........everytime I think of this is how low he can go..........he goes
further down.................... but its just my opinion..........as others
have.........
Reg
Troubles............Laal-Mirchi...)

It would be nice to have a healthy discussion on this characters
characterisation --just his characterisation bc in the characterisation of
this character from the beginning in my opinion he is just too much of a
confused being---this character is a female creation of the male
character and in creation of this character the writers somehow have no
notion of a male psyche, cannot comprehend what a male psyche is--its
not just the psysical make up-the appearance and the shouting and
getting angry--but there is a mind in a male psyche as well.....the original
source from where this male character sketch is drawn from is also a
female pov--there are some gr8 female writers tht have created a few
memorable characters in the English literature...so I am not saying all
female writers are at fault just in this characterisation --there seems to
be too much of nothingness associatted with this character--too
much..as for him being real--my opinion differs there slightly--I think he
is beyond that...JW is an unreal character--perhaps the writers are not
aware of all this that audience
is aware of--don't know--my opinion on the characterisation of the
character--

Knew Archie and Sanam would definitely defend him! 😉😆

I agree on your point though. It's ennoying that he still hasn't done anything to all the things you mentioned (about Pia, Karuna and Jigs etc..) 😕 But I guess the kreatives have forgotten that by now, and will most probably bring it up again when they can't think of anything else!

As for now they're concentrating on Bani's (or AD's) revenge.. or atleast they was.. Don't know where they're going with the new guy involved and the three sisters getting more and more importance..

Anyways, getting back on track, 😆 JW is indeed a human being who's allowed to do mistakes, but you're right.. There are way to many thing that I don't understand why him not reacting to it.. 😕

Jai walia is a character who is very natural in nature... he has his negatives and positives... but then there is a long list of "why?"s about the story... it begins from proposal to pia knowing he killed her mother by accident? then marrying bani? hiding it scared of losing her? ...

even when he came to know his sister took side of barnali, just for money, in killing of their own father... whatever being the reason why didn't he, atleast alone with her, ask her why she did that? the aproach of creativity around the characters are like that they just don't care about continueity... many things... "what happened to?" is a question we have to repeat many times? just like that "why didn't he or she?"... i should say it is not the character jai walia or bani, but the creatives are to answer... they just don't give naturality to the characters... when jai heard bani killed her child to save him he didn't ask the details.. when bani said all those things in dubai he didn't ask the details... a natural man would shout at her back that night... because if he was in a condition to find himself ended up in pia's room after drinking/drugging too much just because of her.. he should have asked a hundred of question... but the creatives decided to please the audience with KC drama.. well... when he realised that sahil had trapped bani then wasn't he capable of tracking its truth... is pia is more influencial than him in the society to stay like a tied dog to her tail these 5 yrs just because of that cd is given to many hands? who are those many hands who is not reachable to him?

things are delivered in wrong order ... whatever order is there it is not continued... they lost the track... then they thought to import a magnet to boost the TRP... all these changes detached the story line/character relationship from each other... there was only personal interests preserved in doing all these... for few it benefited... the story is taken into drain...

jai walia could go high and high if that character was handled properly... instead pia is filled the screen... they couldn't keep her away so they brought another match for her to reduce our anger over seeing her... all become a scrambled egg now...

jai walia has nothing much to do now rather than looking after the kids... take them to school... etc.. they effectively killed jai walia and denied us the chance to see RK's brilliant acting...

till they clear his name from dubai ONS the character won't be raised from this dusty fall.. he need to be recharged into power... otherwise every fights we do for him is a waste... i don't think sahil will come back... but wish sahil is alive and they found him in turkey... it is too much to ask... that will let bani free from a murder charge...

putting all the weakness to jai walia's character they made him like the donkey who carries the weight of the laundry man... atleast if the ks creatives see how people here talks as if jai walia is one living among us... too much to ask, right?

Anju,

(As for as the kind JW is. he never ceases to amaze me..everytime I think of this is how low he can go....he goes further down)

To give u one good example of how low he went:

Bani subjected him to months of Banigiri, he was drunk and broken on KC nite and yet his lovely saali needed drugs to break him down.

But there are a few things he could do to atone for his past misdeeds:

Kidnap children.
Brainwash women.
Raze the house of innocent poor people.
Put the life of innocent children at risk to satisfy his own lust for revenge against a man who didn't even hurt him.

Rgds,

Pri

Kidnap children.
Brainwash women.
Raze the house of innocent children.
Put the life of innocent children at risk to satisfy his own lust for revenge against a man who wouldn't even have hurt him.

Rgds,

Pri
***Pri, if he would hv done all this, then JW would hv a been a kind of man all would hv loved to admire him for! But definitely not me and u!

All very good points you have there 👏 👏 ...True he hasn't really took any actions against those points you have shown...and he is going to get a shock from Durga when he realizes its not Bani anymore

A good post and good discussion too.

I agree with a lot of points mentioned here.

But personally I feel the storyline of KS has been written and the script formulated in such a way that everytime a major track is solved, involving either JW or BW, the aftermath hasnt been handled properly and we had never been shown as to what happens between JnB or to either of them individually.

This same feeling has percolated to the chief protagonists too and their actions or thought processes have never been justified. And the Creatives are definitely short-sighted, they think that once we have created a character and the audience have taken to him/ her, our job is over. What they dont realise is that it is a long drawn out process and just like human beings grow everyday, the characters also need to grow everyday and learn from their mistakes. Unfortunately this never happens and hence we have a great character like JW being turned into a feeble character. They have not allowed him to grow.

Similar is the case with Bani. Until and unless these two and other imp characters grow, they will all continue going downhill, much to our dismay and concern.