What kind of man is this Mr. Jai Walia? - Page 7

Originally posted by: babethatsme

sam i really didnt get wht ur trying to temme !!!

is your reasoning tht it was all 'love' and 'it wasnt his fault' enough to make all his wrong doings right?😕

na re pagal ladki i am. u said He doesn't do anything for his wife...just sayin wotever he did, right or wrong he did it for her. aur bas ab muge sona hai tum sab milkar mugh bihari ko confuse mat karo, itna dimag nahin hai jitna tha laga diya.😆😆

Originally posted by: smitra110

Y'know Meena, I had once written on this that Jigz always gets off scott free. If you go back the chain of events, it was Jigz plan to usurp JW's property which led to the entire chain of events- Bani's alimony/divorce claim, JB estrangement, Jai's shattering at losing Bani, Pia using the opportinity to drug and sleep with him, Pia's subsequent pregnancy and obsession with Jai and her final blow to JB. The root cause was Jigz. Jai has on several occasions mentioned that Jigz likes to create problems and himself was a victim of her threats during the aftermath of the night in Dubai with Pia. How does he always excuse her? Even Adi huffs and puffs, Ranveer has never come clean to JW in his role of the property transfer, no one ever takes Jigs to task. Yet it is always Bani who is held at fault for not punishing Pia. Maasi punished Jai so ruthlessly after the ONS revelation but she knew the truth about Jigz long back. Why was no punishment meted out to her by Maasi?

The unfairness and bias is really killing.

Somali

Somali i agree on tht! Jigyasa has done a lot of loss for the entire family...

why cant Jai question her? why cant he pull her up...

why cant he investigate or prode firther into whats happened over the years?

i dont say Jai is completely wrong but he is not even completely right!

Originally posted by: babethatsme

aashyagh...it is very simple to say he is a flawed human being...but isnt he too falwed for his own and everyone elses good?

and if u make such fatal mistakes and then realise them, the realisation is of no use!

kyon nahin it is good coz he wont repeat it na....but kuch aise chracter hai KS mein jo kabhi realise hi nahin karte (u know who i mean, i wnt take her name coz u said we sud just discuss JW n i love discusing him)

Originally posted by: sanam84

hey je_aime i see your POV n in your right u r absolutely correct also, yes Bani is like that but if u notice the creatives use her n JW as n how they want coz i wont call Bani withdran alwasys, remember how she bashed JW during the whole divorce drama, kept talking sarcastically to him, every occasion she got. in pia's house...during the ganpati puja......outside WM in the rain where she had told him she wud hav had n abortion but it was too late...so she had her moments. i would just say that yes the writers of KS just dont know about their own characters...they r too confused. they Have destroyed JW to the maximum i wud say but kya karoon opposite attracts na 😆

Dear, Bani behaving and being sarcastic was to get alimony or else Bani would have gone from Jai 😕 but you are so right, creatives use JW and Bani as and when they like and destroy them completely😡😡😡

Cheers,
Meena

the almighty can and will never do anything wrong ... and we will always see the JW worshippers try to defend him... by putting bani fault in front....

and yep... she is also to blamed ...but isn't he also....

the almighty makes a mistake, and he is forgiven but the moment bani is wrong we will bash her left en right....she is the black sheep off the KS... and will stay that...

ohhh...before this turns in a battlefield ....this is just how I see it...

Originally posted by: aashyagh

i agree with u! why cant we ever just have a conversation/discussion abt Jai?

***The day Bani is discussed without Jai, then I m sure Jai can be discussed without Bani, but aren't we all J&B despos and want them together and that's why we argue like this? 😕 Or Am I missing something?

well i am nt talking abt them as a couple...

here where me or some1 else is saying wht JW has done wrng, ul are quick to pt out wht Bani did wrng!

i knw wht she did wrng...this is abt JW nt abt Bani!

Originally posted by: sanam84

kyon nahin it is good coz he wont repeat it na....but kuch aise chracter hai KS mein jo kabhi realise hi nahin karte (u know who i mean, i wnt take her name coz u said we sud just discuss JW n i love discusing him)

well thts where we differ...he makes 'fatal' mistakes...and very easily puts the blame on some1 else or circumstances...

and if we clap with two hands, then one is always Jai's but the blame is also on Bani's hand! why?

cant ul ever see his mistakes...this is hypocricy...blatant at tht too

Originally posted by: shali

the almighty can and will never do anything wrong ... and we will always see the JW worshippers try to defend him... by putting bani fault in front....

and yep... she is also to blamed ...but isn't he also....

the almighty makes a mistake, and he is forgiven but the moment bani is wrong we will bash her left en right....she is the black sheep off the KS... and will stay that...

ohhh...before this turns in a battlefield ....this is just how I see it...

i agree with this...completely...why such a two-faced atitude?

Babethatsme wrote:
"well thts where we differ...he makes 'fatal' mistakes...and very easily puts the blame on some1 else or circumstances..."

When has Jai done this? The one consistent thing till now is that he accepts his mistakes and his unshakable belief in Bani.

He accepted that he caused a lot of pain to Bani after their marriage and tried to atone by stopping his revenge against Pushkar and Pia as he knew that would hurt Bani. He accepts that he has not been able to save Bani, he is trying to atone by living for her children,accepted blame in the ONS though he was drugged, as for blaming God, it is human tendency to do so. Everyone has this trait! As for letting Pia live in WM, maybe here he should have kicked her out, but the relief is that he totally ignores and hates her!!

If one thinks carefully, Bani and Jai's actions have directly affected each other. Two hands clap, then one is Jai's and the other is Bani's. This is cos both are totally connected to each other, their attempts to solely and individually save the other have lead them to where they are today.

Jai sending Bani to MA is mentioned, but why is Bani, on Tarun's orders hiding the whole Sahil isssue from Jai not even mentioned?

Jai keeping Pia in WM is wrong, but what about Bani bringing her into WM against Jai and Rano's advice?

Jai and Bani's faults cannot be discussed individuallly cos they are the two faces of the same coin. Maybe thats why they are an ideal pair, only the two of them can take each other!! 😊

it is very simple to say he is a flawed human being...but isnt he too falwed for his own and everyone elses good?and if u make such fatal mistakes and then realise them, the realisation is of no use!

Dear Babe, JW has flaws in his character, he is only human. Maybe he might have more flaws in him then others, but, still, I choose to love him because of his capability of understanding, forgiving, loving, repentance, for giving second, third, forth chances........

-Yes he is too flawed for his own good - when Bani came to him on the KC night in Dubai, he should not have accepted her without an explanation. Bani killed this man in every which way possible up to then in the name of saving his fortune.

- Yes, he should have had Bani for bhoot worshipping. Especially, after he found out that this bhoot had deliberately thrown herself in front to a innocent man's car, got herself killed and then her accomplice alcoholic bhoot husband cursed this same innocent man for the death. An innocent man lived for how long with this guilt? How many seconds did Bani spent in saying sorry and repent for this matter? Who quickly did Bani go back to bhoot worshipping after this?

- Yes he should have told Bani about the ONS and told her the reasons that drove him to this situation

- He should have kicked Billo and everyone else out of his house, when Billo did his shraddh.

- When the actual truth about the ONS came out, he should have confronted his GFN family and the Dixit clan with it and told Bani never to mention Pia again in his presence,

- When Bani wanted to bring back his rapist in his home, he should have kicked both Bani and Pia out of this universe.

- When Pia's snooping lead to Bani's framing he should have told Bani exactly whose fault it was that lead to her being framed for murder.

- When Bani signed the custody of her children to Pia, he should have gone and put Bani out of her misery for good.

So, yes, JW is too flawed for his own good, but he is NOT too flawed for me. I love him because I myself would have been far less companionate, understanding and forgiving.

and if u make such fatal mistakes and then realise them, the realisation is of no use!

Why not. So you are saying that, if someone understands their mistake and truely repents for them, they shouldn't be forgiven? Then, I am grossly flawed as I believe that a true repentent should be forgiven. As a flawed charecter myself, I understand and can relate to JW and thus, I like him.

well thts where we differ...he makes 'fatal' mistakes...and very easily puts the blame on some1 else or circumstances...

Please clarify: What 'Fatal mistakes'? Who did he blame for his mistakes and which circumastances did he blame?

and if we clap with two hands, then one is always Jai's but the blame is also on Bani's hand! why?

That is because Bani is the other hand. As you yourself said, if we clap with 2 hands, then 1 hand is JW's, that's fine - he is flawed. But then, we are left with the other hand and that hand belongs to Bani and thats why the blame goes to her as well.

cant ul ever see his mistakes...this is hypocricy...blatant at tht too

Most of us who like JW have always admitted that he is flawed and said that these very flaws are the reson we like him. We do admit his mistakes, so where do you see hipocricy?

Sonia.