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Posted: 18 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: RaviMalhotra69

I do think that Massi's sense of justice is somewhat flawed.

I'm not too much opposed to her kicking jai out of the mansion, however if massi wants to punish anyone for their wrongdoings, then she should punish all people that have done wrong.

I am reffering to the fact that she has let Jigyasa off scott free even though she is aware that Jigyasa was trying to steal the Walia properties. Massi has known about this for some time and yet has done absolutely nothing. She could have at least told Jai about it, but she didn't! 😡

Doesn't Jigyasa's doings look like betrayal to Massi? Massi should at least try to be fair.

God bless.



EXACTLY!! Thank You!! Tab Massi ka motherly apnapan ghaas charne gaya tha na?!! 😡
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Posted: 18 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: Cordelia



EXACTLY!! Thank You!! Tab Massi ka motherly apnapan ghaas charne gaya tha na?!! 😡

Hahahaha!!! 😆 😆 😆

Just the way that was written made me laugh! 😆

God bless.

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Posted: 18 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: starz4me

listen cordelia..............all the things u mentioned were right..........but did u notice one thing in ur own specific points that all this was between Jai n Bani..................until now when Jai brings Pia in his life.

er... "all this" wouldn't exist if Pia wasn't there, and wasn't Jai that put her there, she dragged herself in between them!!

chalo.........even if we agree that Jai was not in his senses when Pia was throwing herself all over him then.............later on y didnt he had guts like a man to say it to bani or even massi.............he hid the truth from them................n then even though he did not wanted to.......but kept pampering Pia n welcoming her in his life.

maybe you didnt see his face when she came in front of him... it was hardly a welcoming expression!! 😆

i dont think massi is a hypocrit at all coz she had been i think truly awesome in this episode for what she did to jai..........coz he deserved it. Pia was not only a third person in jai-bani life but was for god sake bani's sister..........instead of keeping his image all goddy in front of bani..........he shud have confessed his sin to her..........n maybe then the things might have been different or the same......what doz it matter now. therefore, i think wat massi did was right n i wud not call her hypocrite.................coz until now she kept quite coz it was between just husband n wife.............n now this time its sum1 else in thir life...........so she'll obviously luk for the innocent one that is bani who had not cheated on Jai but was vice versa................so i think ji deserves it.

like i said before, regardless of who you support in this matter, jai or bani, the issue i am talking about is MASSI'S hypocrisy - her sudden motherly tendencies which were non-existent when her pyaari si daughter-in-law was playing with her son's life and emotions. her newfound voice which had disappeared when jigs and ranveer were playing dirty.

i too agree that he should have told bani the truth from the beginning, although i can understand why he didnt. but that doesnt detract from massi's sickening display in todays episode.


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Posted: 18 years ago
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Cordelia...
I totally agree with you.
Why was Jai the only one crucified?
The countdown should start from BAni herself...in her misguided way to save Jai's wealth...she lied to him ALL the time...hurt him,ground him below her jhutti and totally emasculated him so to speak...still our buddhu believed in her.....due to an unforseen tragedy..she loses the baby...Jai is told by Jigyasa that the baby is aborted.......neither Maasi nor Pushkar still think that Jai shld know the truth...after all asstd proofs that were presented in front of Jai...hestill wanted to be with Bani...the one time he was laid low..totally pissed drunk because he was just told by a lawyer that not only was Bani def going ahd with the divorce...Pushkar was pushing for it as well....hew decided to get drunk....his one big mistake where Pia found her chance and seduced him...IT WAS NOT JAI who initiated the act...it was Pia all the way..
And destiny brought Bani back to him...again with no explanation on her part..
Jai's fault was that he loved his wife and knew too well what wld happen if this ever came out in front of her

THe problem in all this is that no one communicates..
Maasi never deemed fit to explain things to her munna....she conveniently doesnt blame or punish Jigyaasa
Pushkar except for bland statements like BAni loves you more than her life(something Jai already knew)never told him the truth either.
even after seeing the CD..thought fit to lambast Jai...what of Pia?...did he see a diff CD than the one shown to us?
Why even now...all that is done by these so called friends/mothers...is to villify Jai...in real life...ppl wld try and work out a solution AFTER getting at the truth...this is the same maasi who was sure of her son's integrity...why wont she even try to listen?
Phew...had a lot of venting to be done
cheers
mandu



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Posted: 18 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: fsam

Cordy welcome back.

Like I said yesterday, Maasi's reaction is not only for what JW has done, but what his father has done.

Her recation is not to Bani or JW, but to what Bani represents. Her suffering sister and right now JW represents his father, the man who made her sister suffer.

It is the hatred she felt for JW's father that is coming out on JW, because of his actions.

I know you will say that the ONS did not happen, but that is an assuption because of now not only has JW accepted the ONS happened, but accepted the child. He has proved himself guilty.

well said

but in the initial post it said she neva gave him a chance to explain but i don;t think there is a valid excuse for sleeping with ur wife's sister when u still love ur wife

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: khattimeeti

now can anybody punish pia, remember its only bani who can punish her or pushkar or rano........not ppl from the walia parivaar.

And massi has everyright to do things like that becoz, Jai failed her as a son. Imagine you spend your lifetime making a person something good......... avoiding him from being something bad....... and finally you get to know your child is exactly what you dont want to be....... all of us react in this way.......it was dramitzed as its a serial........thats all................

I agree ....

just as Massi declared that Jai is dead for her..... Bani's going away is going to mean that she does not care for Pia as well.....they say na agar apna hi sikka khota nikla to auronse kya shikva...... after marriage and after all those wonderful episodes that Jai treated Bani as the love pf his life..... she is definately going to feel backstabbed !!!

I agree what masi did was much expected .... out of shock reaction for any mother......just dramatized as its shown on television !!!

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: mom101

I am going strongly to disagree with you. I work with women who leave abusive realtionships. often men will comment that a woman is a woman's worst enemy because we do not stand up for each other. As a woman I was proud that a mother in law stood strong for her daughter in law. She proved to the world that her daughter in law is truly her daughter and her pain is that of a mother. As an Indian one of our flaws has been that we forgive our sons almost everything. We always like Jigassa justify that men are not wrong like she said yeaterday oh well he needed a child or he was pushed into this. We women need to move away from this kind of thinking. What is wrong is wrong. Jai threw out Bani when he thought she was pregant with another man's child. He called her a whore and now he had done the same. Same crime, same punishment. I am so glad of today's episode. I feel we women have moved o years further. I hope all mother in laws take note.



as i mentioned in my original post, i do commend massi on that one point, that she stood up for her daughter-in-law - heartening to see because it rarely happens. but as usual, in my opinion, it is shown to occur in circumstances where for once, it was the son that needed support! in all of kekta's shows it is always the man at fault, regardless of what the heroine has done she comes out smelling of roses - in this situation that is completely wrong!!

although this post was about Massi's hypocrisy rather than the part of Jai or Bani in this situation i would just like to answer the point you made about Bani's fake pregnancy.

Even in that situation Jai took Bani aside and asked her whether what he was hearing was true. They barely knew each other yet he had that much sense to clarify things first. it was only when Bani categorically confirmed the case that he went crazy, and his reaction was right in relation to what she was telling him. the only reason we knew he was wrong is because we were privvy to Bani's side of the story - he wasn't!!

here no-one has given him even the slightest opportunity to say a single word, and this too after their relationship has developed so much!!

but going back to Massi's hypocrisy - it is good for her to stick up for her daughter-in-law BUT Jai IS her son, the least she could do is hear him out.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Cordelia

[as i mentioned in my original post, i do commend massi on that one point, that she stood up for her daughter-in-law - heartening to see because it rarely happens. but as usual, in my opinion, it is shown to occur in circumstances where for once, it was the son that needed support! in all of kekta's shows it is always the man at fault, regardless of what the heroine has done she comes out smelling of roses - in this situation that is completely wrong!!

although this post was about Massi's hypocrisy rather than the part of Jai or Bani in this situation i would just like to answer the point you made about Bani's fake pregnancy.

Even in that situation Jai took Bani aside and asked her whether what he was hearing was true. They barely knew each other yet he had that much sense to clarify things first. it was only when Bani categorically confirmed the case that he went crazy, and his reaction was right in relation to what she was telling him. the only reason we knew he was wrong is because we were privvy to Bani's side of the story - he wasn't!!

here no-one has given him even the slightest opportunity to say a single word, and this too after their relationship has developed so much!!

but going back to Massi's hypocrisy - it is good for her to stick up for her daughter-in-law BUT Jai IS her son, the least she could do is hear him out.

What would Jai say to justify his actions? He has accepted Pia's child as his....is there anything else left to be said. If he had questioned the child's paternity or for once believed that he was not capable to do something like this it would have been a different ball game........So I fail to understand what justification would he have given to Masi or anyone else.....

The only reason why we would defend Jai is because we know that he did not do anythign and it was Pia reptile all the way but if u look at the circumstance and the situation in the serial itself u understand Massi's reaction. Having said that I too do think Massi went overboard with her actions today.........Disowning him would have been enough... But we should remember that this is the reel life so actions are amplified a lot by directors and Maayi.....

Nidhi

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Cordelia



as i mentioned in my original post, i do commend massi on that one point, that she stood up for her daughter-in-law - heartening to see because it rarely happens. but as usual, in my opinion, it is shown to occur in circumstances where for once, it was the son that needed support! in all of kekta's shows it is always the man at fault, regardless of what the heroine has done she comes out smelling of roses - in this situation that is completely wrong!!

although this post was about Massi's hypocrisy rather than the part of Jai or Bani in this situation i would just like to answer the point you made about Bani's fake pregnancy.

Even in that situation Jai took Bani aside and asked her whether what he was hearing was true. They barely knew each other yet he had that much sense to clarify things first. it was only when Bani categorically confirmed the case that he went crazy, and his reaction was right in relation to what she was telling him. the only reason we knew he was wrong is because we were privvy to Bani's side of the story - he wasn't!!

here no-one has given him even the slightest opportunity to say a single word, and this too after their relationship has developed so much!!

but going back to Massi's hypocrisy - it is good for her to stick up for her daughter-in-law BUT Jai IS her son, the least she could do is hear him out.

Bani saw him crying & shouting mera baccha...kissing Pia's forehead...what else explaination could one ask for ?

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: pmtwist


Bani saw him crying & shouting mera baccha...kissing Pia's forehead...what else explaination could one ask for ?



Bani saw it - did Massi? Did Bani tell Massi this? No, Massi received the info 3rd hand.

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