Jai and Pia's Conversation - Q & A! - Page 2

Hi Girls, Very well answered till now, am awaiting more responses!

Dancing Doll, I am replying to your question, about Pia's final line to Jai, asking him whether his "Adhoorapan" is now complete or not! I wanted to put this up in my Original post, it kind of slipped from the back of my mind, thanks for brining this up!

The reason why Jai did not or rather could not answer this question was because ; a) Inspite of being so clear on his feelings for Pia, I would still like to insist that Jai has still not fully realized his feelings for Bani. I am not saying that he doens't love her or anything, just that he himself hasn't been able to comprehned the depths of his feelings for Bani and hence he was stumped for an answer when Pia posed this question.

(b) I think the main reason why Jai couldn't answer Pia was because he suddenly realized how strongly Pia has started feeling for him and how by questioning his lonliness, she has bared open her own lonliness in front of him!

(c) Also, the loss of their child still haunts Jai and when Pia questioned him about his lonliness, Jai's thoughts were not only on Bani but also on the child he lost.....Jai called himself a Lost Man infront of Pia, because he had Lost his Wife and his Child....He has only got his Wife till now but not his Child! Hence, his stunned silence might have indicated the loss he feels and not what Pia is comprehending!

Pia did not ask Jai to leave Bani, but at the same time, very clearly indicated, that like Bani, she would also want to be a part of Jai's life! Hence she tells Jai that if he could make Bani a part of his life when she had wiped his tears, why couldn't he make Pia a part of his life when she has done the same!

Jai is obviously still in shock for what transpired and on top of that he gets to know that what had been a ONS for him was actually much more Pia has really rattled him!

But I still felt that Jai handled Pia in a very, very mature and responsible manner...and also, Pia will keep having questions for Jai, he really has no need to clarify them all the time! What had happened was between Jai and Pia and because of both of them, hence if Jai is accepting his responsibility, then so should Pia.

My two cents...

MT

PS: Lolz...I should do a thesis on J&B Relationship Analysis now!😆

Originally posted by: mistletoe

Zindagi tere gham ne hume, rishtey naye samjhaye,

Mile jo hume, dhoop mein mile, chaoon ke thande saaye….

Now girls, your Q&A session begins, be good and answer them as well as you do everyday: MT, dear, do you realize that the quality of my answers partially depends on the quality of your update and this piece of your writing? By abstinence of video, I put my full faith in your information! What responsability lay on your frail but firm shoulders!! 😉😆😆

Do you think Jai was clear enough in expressing what he wanted to with Pia, without offending her sense of dignity? Or do you think, he should have been more curt & brusque with her and ordered her to stay away from Bani and his Life? I think it was very right as he did it. It's painful enough for Pia and Jai is also to be blamed for what happened. So it's right that he tries not to hurt her unduly.

Do you find Jai Walia to be a "Sensitive" Man, one who might be rude and offhand in his outward behaviour but is innately very considerate and caring of other people's thoughts and feelings?Do you feel his conversation with Pia showed him as someone very decent and honorable man who might make mistakes but does not shrink from facing them thereafter? Yes, no doubt. He tries to face his emotions and tries to understand the feelings of others as well. This trait makes him such a loveable and interesting character!

Why do you think Jai told Pia to forget about having any relationship forged between them? Is it because as Jai himself says that he is Married and so is she and whether they love their spouses or not, they have to continue with their respective marriages? Or is it because, he really feels nothing for Pia and even without Bani in his life, he wouldn't have thought of having any future with her? Or is it because, Marriage or no Marriage, Jai only loves Bani and cannot think of a life with anyone else apart from her? MT, you have fully answered your question by yourself: all three reasons make him refuse Pia. Thanks for the help 😆

Do you think that the Conversation with Pia lightened Jai's burden and that is why he was so relaxed with Bani during their Beach-date? Or do you still feel he is reeling under immense guilt and wants to confess to Bani before he leads her on anymore?I guess talking with Pia would not yet have even lessened his guilt towards Pia, for

"using" her. My feeling is that Jai will be as confused as I am, if he should clear up and tell the truth to Bani or that he should spare her feelings and leave her unaware of what happened between him and Pia. I wouldn't know what's better to do for him. He has to follow his intuition on this (do men possess such qualities? Or is it only reserved for the superior breed of us, Ladies?😉😃 )

Hypothetical Question : "What you don't know shall never hurt you." Do you think Jai should follow the dictum and keep quiet about his misadventure with Pia in front of Bani and go ahead with his married life and forget all about what happened? Or do you think that "Honesty is indeed the best policy" and that if Jai doesn't confess to his guilt, he would never be able to live happily with Bani? This I already put forward in the previous question. So difficult to answer. But perhaps I'm more inclined towards telling the truth: honesty is the best policy, after all. And indeed Ja might clear his heart in this way.

Do you think that Pia is genuinely in love with Jai this time and what she shared with Pushkar was nothing more than a mistake of youth? Or do you think that once again, what Pia is undergoing is nothing more than a Desire and the fact that she can't have the man she wants is making her go so heart-broken and shattered and not the fact that she loved and lost him? Pia, oh Pia. With her it can go everywhere or? Looks like she is in love, but it could be just a wish as well. All I know is that she's so sad now! Poor kid!

Jai's surprise, followed by his amusement and then his complete surrender to Bani in the Beach Scene. What do you make out of this? Is Jai just amused by the change of personality that his wife has undergone or is he really happy about the fact that the woman whom he loves feels the same intensity for him and expresses them openly?My feeling is, that without seeing the video it's difficult to tell. But he is surely not just amused, that doesn't fit with his character. I opt for genuine surprise and happiness. Finally Jai!

Would be awaiting your answers…..

Cheers,

MT

PS: Wish you all a very Happy Karva Chauth!

Thanks again for thinking and making us think,MT. KS starting to live for me again, through answering such questions.

love, Maria

Now girls, your Q&A session begins, be good and answer them as well as you do everyday:

Do you think Jai was clear enough in expressing what he wanted to with Pia, without offending her sense of dignity? Or do you think, he should have been more curt & brusque with her and ordered her to stay away from Bani and his Life?

***I think he was very clear, honest and dignified when he discussed with Pia and made it cut short that he wants to live with Bani! Being rude would hv only spoilt his dignity and also the relationship what he actually shares with Pia, she is Bani's sister afterall! So he couldnt have been rude!



Do you find Jai Walia to be a "Sensitive" Man, one who might be rude and offhand in his outward behaviour but is innately very considerate and caring of other people's thoughts and feelings?Do you feel his conversation with Pia showed him as someone very decent and honorable man who might make mistakes but does not shrink from facing them thereafter?
***Yes he is a very sensitive man, he shows his temper immdtly, but realises his mistake also as fast as he makes it and ensures that he shows is concern to the other, even before this ONS incident, he has been rude to Pia but at the same time, he has immdtly been sorry for the same!



Why do you think Jai told Pia to forget about having any relationship forged between them? Is it because as Jai himself says that he is Married and so is she and whether they love their spouses or not, they have to continue with their respective marriages? Or is it because, he really feels nothing for Pia and even without Bani in his life, he wouldn't have thought of having any future with her? Or is it because, Marriage or no Marriage, Jai only loves Bani and cannot think of a life with anyone else apart from her?

***He didnt say it just because he was married, if he felt that marriage was only a institution, then he wouldnt hv thought of giving divorce to Bani after 6/19 incident also, for him marriage was a relationship which has trust, love and respect for each other! If he had felt anything for Pia and nothing for Bani expect the word "Marriage" then he wouldn't hv agreed to give one more chance to their relationships! He doesnt force himself to any relationships, he is very clear on what he needs and whom he wants in his life!



Do you think that the Conversation with Pia lightened Jai's burden and that is why he was so relaxed with Bani during their Beach-date? Or do you still feel he is reeling under immense guilt and wants to confess to Bani before he leads her on anymore?
***Yes he is little relaxed after talking to Pia, or he wouldnt hv been able to be so calm during his dinner date! If he still has the guilt or not, I cannot say rite now, but during the beach date, he had left all the past behind and he was only for his beloved WIFE!



Hypothetical Question : "What you don't know shall never hurt you." Do you think Jai should follow the dictum and keep quiet about his misadventure with Pia in front of Bani and go ahead with his married life and forget all about what happened? Or do you think that "Honesty is indeed the best policy" and that if Jai doesn't confess to his guilt, he would never be able to live happily with Bani?
*** Not very sure! Sometimes I feel that he shouldnt tell the truth and consider it as a bad past and go ahead, as I feel that one truth which can be hidden is better than telling the truth which can screw up many lives! I know its not rite to hide the truth, but is it greater than the relationships and the feelings of the other person who loves u so much? And when he has no feelings for Pia at that time the choice can be purely his, if he had any feelings for Pia, then he should tell the truth!



Do you think that Pia is genuinely in love with Jai this time and what she shared with Pushkar was nothing more than a mistake of youth? Or do you think that once again, what Pia is undergoing is nothing more than a Desire and the fact that she can't have the man she wants is making her go so heart-broken and shattered and not the fact that she loved and lost him?

***No I dont think Pia is genuinely in love with Jai, as from the day one of her wedding with Pushkar she kept saying that she made a mistake by marrying him and she kept repeatedly saying so and she had the same kind of reactions, when she had agreed to marry Jai and was not able to forget Pushkar, as I told in one of my other posts, she doesnt know what actually love is, she doesnt realise that u get it only when u dont expect it and give yr share of love! She has fallen for him because of his emotions and feelings towards Bani that too a person who is so rich!!


Jai's surprise, followed by his amusement and then his complete surrender to Bani in the Beach Scene. What do you make out of this? Is Jai just amused by the change of personality that his wife has undergone or is he really happy about the fact that the woman whom he loves feels the same intensity for him and expresses them openly?

***He is really happy about the fact that the woman whom he loved so much and also where he thought that this relationship was above all the relationships didnt go wrong and she also feels the same towards him! What else can a man with that intensity and depth can ask for!!

MT would like to know yr replies too!!

If Jai's feelings for Bani are So deep and intense ..then .. " Love should have bought him back home last nite .." quoting Toni Braxtons song title .meaning .. he wouldnt have spend the nite with pia and instead gone back to his own room that Nite
Guys I am with Jai ..and not bashing him ..But i feel .. he isnt totally Bani's he cares for Pia too .. and even if from that nite onwards .. If Bani had not turned up in Dubai .. Jai wouldnt continue with pia coz he had pushkar to think about . Jai is a 40 yera old , Mature man ..unlike Pia who's got a lot of living and growing up to do .
Same goes for Bani .. had she been older than her twenty.. she wouldnt put her marriage at risk .but discussed matters as serious as this with Hubby .

The beach scene was alright .. and nothing of the sort they hyped .about . But i dont understand which Man after spending a romantic evening .which Wife has organized . a wife who he has longed to be with as he told pia .. sits and drinks in the corner .. looking low and lost ..( Missing Pia perhaps ) infact he should have been on cloud nine and smiling warmly instead he looked as if he was relieved a task was over and done with and was taking a drink after a Hard days work 😆 what say Poo ??? 😉
Like we all know he Maybe a sucesful , intelligent and powerful man he is also a sensitive caring individual who believes in the Institution of marriage .i strongly feel jai cares for pia .Cares only huh .. ? .more after the ONS..just isnt expressing it .

Originally posted by: mistletoe

Now girls, your Q&A session begins, be good and answer them as well as you do everyday:

Do you think Jai was clear enough in expressing what he wanted to with Pia, without offending her sense of dignity? Or do you think, he should have been more curt & brusque with her and ordered her to stay away from Bani and his Life?

Did you guys notice Jai was wearing sneakers yesterday, when he was talking to Pia...bechara pyar mein toh bar bar phisalne kee aadat ho gayee, maybe he did not want to phislophy on the snow as well. 😊

The way he was careful in choosing the right kind of shoes to walk on the snow, he was double careful while speaking to Pia, lest she makes him phislophy again...Jai Walia was at his best in the way he handled the whole conversation with dignity and class.

Do you find Jai Walia to be a "Sensitive" Man, one who might be rude and offhand in his outward behaviour but is innately very considerate and caring of other people's thoughts and feelings?Do you feel his conversation with Pia showed him as someone very decent and honorable man who might make mistakes but does not shrink from facing them thereafter?

Jai Walia is definitely a sensitive man, if he wasn't I don't think he would have created so many blunders...Because he's an emotional being he has undergone so many traumas and it hit him on just the spot where he's more vulnerable...his heart...

Though his outward shell may depict Jai Walia as being cold and heartless from inside he is as soft as a jelly bean and it reflects in all his conversations with Bani and even with Pia in yesterday's episode...where he completely understood what she is going through, however in a very deft manner made things clear to her...that Bani is a part of him...that was one of the best dialogues...He will never ever shrink from facing up to his mistakes and faults...he's not the one to chicken out of any situation irrespective of how sticky it may be...

Why do you think Jai told Pia to forget about having any relationship forged between them? Is it because as Jai himself says that he is Married and so is she and whether they love their spouses or not, they have to continue with their respective marriages? Or is it because, he really feels nothing for Pia and even without Bani in his life, he wouldn't have thought of having any future with her? Or is it because, Marriage or no Marriage, Jai only loves Bani and cannot think of a life with anyone else apart from her?

I am not too sure what Jai's reaction would have been if Bani had not decided to pounce on Jai as if there's no tomorrow...However even if he would have had a relationship with Pia, I am very confident it wouldn't have lasted for more than a week...Like Bubbles put it, Jai can go and suck an egg, I am sure he would be any day be more glad to do that than be with the dreaded peabrain...

Jai told Pia he would never have a relationship with her because his heart beats for only one woman - Bani Walia...

Do you think that the Conversation with Pia lightened Jai's burden and that is why he was so relaxed with Bani during their Beach-date? Or do you still feel he is reeling under immense guilt and wants to confess to Bani before he leads her on anymore?

I think he did feel a little relieved after speaking to Pia, that constipated look from his face has disappeared...rather than visiting the WC, he needed to visit Pia to empty all the crappy thoughts from his mind once and for all...😉

Hypothetical Question : "What you don't know shall never hurt you." Do you think Jai should follow the dictum and keep quiet about his misadventure with Pia in front of Bani and go ahead with his married life and forget all about what happened? Or do you think that "Honesty is indeed the best policy" and that if Jai doesn't confess to his guilt, he would never be able to live happily with Bani?

The thought what you never know is not going to hurt you does not hold any value in the long term, as invariably there'll come a moment or a time when you would need to come clean...In that regard I think honesty is the best policy because you don't suffer from a guilty conscience for ever and at least you find a way of offering your redemption for the mistakes made...

Do you think that Pia is genuinely in love with Jai this time and what she shared with Pushkar was nothing more than a mistake of youth? Or do you think that once again, what Pia is undergoing is nothing more than a Desire and the fact that she can't have the man she wants is making her go so heart-broken and shattered and not the fact that she loved and lost him?

Even if for a second we give Pia the benefit of the doubt and feel absolutely sympathetic towards her considering the fact she may be truly in love with Jai Walia, I somehow feel even then Pia is too selfish and self centered to ever think of anybody else. Even if Jai loves her with all his might, Pia will still find a way to crib and whine...So I don't think even if God Almighty stepped down to have an affair with her, will she ever be happy...

Jai's surprise, followed by his amusement and then his complete surrender to Bani in the Beach Scene. What do you make out of this? Is Jai just amused by the change of personality that his wife has undergone or is he really happy about the fact that the woman whom he loves feels the same intensity for him and expresses them openly?

For the first time both Jai and Bani are being completely honest and open about their feelings...Yes Jai may not be the one to vocally declare his love for Bani, but his deeds have time and again showed how much he loves her, except for one unpleasant deed, about which the less spoken the better...

Jai may be a bit amused seeing his docile wife turning into a charming temptress, however he's definitely doesn't seem the one to complain with the change of events...infact he seems more than glad to accept her in a new avatar...

Would be awaiting your answers…..

Cheers,

MT

PS: Wish you all a very Happy Karva Chauth!

Hey MT,

Happy Karva Chauth...and I am pretty sure u must be fasting..so happy fasting....till the moon decides to show up....

👏

Originally posted by: mistletoe

Hi Girls, Very well answered till now, am awaiting more responses!

Dancing Doll, I am replying to your question, about Pia's final line to Jai, asking him whether his "Adhoorapan" is now complete or not! I wanted to put this up in my Original post, it kind of slipped from the back of my mind, thanks for brining this up!

The reason why Jai did not or rather could not answer this question was because ; a) Inspite of being so clear on his feelings for Pia, I would still like to insist that Jai has still not fully realized his feelings for Bani. I am not saying that he doens't love her or anything, just that he himself hasn't been able to comprehned the depths of his feelings for Bani and hence he was stumped for an answer when Pia posed this question.

(b) I think the main reason why Jai couldn't answer Pia was because he suddenly realized how strongly Pia has started feeling for him and how by questioning his lonliness, she has bared open her own lonliness in front of him!

(c) Also, the loss of their child still haunts Jai and when Pia questioned him about his lonliness, Jai's thoughts were not only on Bani but also on the child he lost.....Jai called himself a Lost Man infront of Pia, because he had Lost his Wife and his Child....He has only got his Wife till now but not his Child! Hence, his stunned silence might have indicated the loss he feels and not what Pia is comprehending!

Pia did not ask Jai to leave Bani, but at the same time, very clearly indicated, that like Bani, she would also want to be a part of Jai's life! Hence she tells Jai that if he could make Bani a part of his life when she had wiped his tears, why couldn't he make Pia a part of his life when she has done the same!

Jai is obviously still in shock for what transpired and on top of that he gets to know that what had been a ONS for him was actually much more Pia has really rattled him!

But I still felt that Jai handled Pia in a very, very mature and responsible manner...and also, Pia will keep having questions for Jai, he really has no need to clarify them all the time! What had happened was between Jai and Pia and because of both of them, hence if Jai is accepting his responsibility, then so should Pia.

My two cents...

MT

PS: Lolz...I should do a thesis on J&B Relationship Analysis now!😆

Seriously MT, This is all I have been thinking since last night's episode. I was hoping that the reasons stated by you are the reasons why he couldnt utter anything in front of Pia!!! Yes, the Reason b) is a new angle I havent thought about!!! 😊

Well, i am still confident about his love for bani!!!

a huge round of applause for JB 👏

MT,

(Pia did not ask Jai to leave Bani, but at the same time, very clearly indicated, that like Bani, she would also want to be a part of Jai's life! )

So does she expect that Jai would marry both simultaneously. The her di would accept the arrangement. Reminds me of Jigs sarcy remark to Rano " Bani aur Pia ki pasand ek hi hai, you know what I mean"

Rgds,

Priyanka

Originally posted by: majumdar

MT,

(Pia did not ask Jai to leave Bani, but at the same time, very clearly indicated, that like Bani, she would also want to be a part of Jai's life! )

So does she expect that Jai would marry both simultaneously. The her di would accept the arrangement. Reminds me of Jigs sarcy remark to Rano " Bani aur Pia ki pasand ek hi hai, you know what I mean"

Rgds,

Priyanka

A "yours, mine & ours" scenario in the offing huh

CAT

Hey MT,

As usual great Questions...

Q-Do you think Jai was clear enough in expressing what he wanted to
with Pia, without offending her sense of dignity? Or do you think, he
should have been more curt & brusque with her and ordered her to stay
away from Bani and his Life?
Q- Do you find Jai Walia to be a "Sensitive" Man, one who might be rude
and offhand in his outward behaviour but is innately very considerate and
caring of other people's thoughts and feelings?Do you feel his
conversation with Pia showed him as someone very decent and honorable
man who might make mistakes but does not shrink from facing them
thereafter?

A-to both the above questions ... Jai was clear and precise with all the
answers he gave Pia... and I think if he withheld to say something it was
so because he knew that would hurt Pia in someway... and right now he
has not been pushed to that extent by Pia that he needs to be blunt or
rude with her.... Pia is in no way threatening to come between Jai and Bani
till now... I feel Jai has realised that what Pia feels for him is unlike the
way she felt for him in the past... and c'mon he is concerned about her...
he should be... he is a sensitive man... has been obvious from the way he
treats everyone around him... his family, friends.... no doubt about this...
jabardasti to aap kisi ko taklif denge bhi nahi.... everytime Jai has been
rude beyond belief its been for a reason ... and no i in noway feel that Jai
is a man who shirks away from his mistakes... he might take time but he
does own up to it....

Q- Why do you think Jai told Pia to forget about having any relationship
forged between them? Is it because as Jai himself says that he is Married
and so is she and whether they love their spouses or not, they have to
continue with their respective marriages? Or is it because, he really feels
nothing for Pia and even without Bani in his life, he wouldn't have thought
of having any future with her? Or is it because, Marriage or no Marriage,
Jai only loves Bani and cannot think of a life with anyone else apart from
her?

A- Jai at this juncture harbours no romantic illusions about Pia... what
happened between them was purely a biological need being fullfilled
between a man and woman... So with or without Bani I think Pia is a total
no-no for Jai.... He did actually get up the next day and said "itni badi
galti kaise ho gayi" and at that time he was even aware that Bani would
come back to him! As for Jai loving Bani... I think he still needs to realise
it... pata nahi kitne dino se akelepan ka rishta aur khamoshi mein bhi ek
doosre ko smajhne ka jaap kiye ja raha hai... high time he realises what it
is!!

Q- Do you think that the Conversation with Pia lightened Jai's burden and
that is why he was so relaxed with Bani during their Beach-date? Or do
you still feel he is reeling under immense guilt and wants to confess to
Bani before he leads her on anymore?

A- Hmmm.. could have lightened him a wee bit ... But I do think that
there is a need for a night long conversation between Jai and Bani... where
everything should be laid out on the table and after then they should take
their relationship forward.... but then Ekta mayi ka serial hai agar sab
kuch pehle hi bata diya jaaye to twist aur turn kahan se aayega unki
zindagi mein!

Hypothetical Question : "What you don't know shall never hurt you." Do
you think Jai should follow the dictum and keep quiet about his
misadventure with Pia in front of Bani and go ahead with his married life
and forget all about what happened? Or do you think that "Honesty is
indeed the best policy" and that if Jai doesn't confess to his guilt, he
would never be able to live happily with Bani?

A- if Jai doesn't confess to his guilt, he would never be able to live
happily with Bani... I believe that... he would constantly live in the fear
that what if she comes to know.... and sooner or later the past does catch
up with you if you do not tackle it ... so my advice to Jai... go right ahead
and tell it to Bani... atleast she will be happy somewhere knowing that you
were the one who told it to her rather than Pia or worse Jigs baby
breaking the news to her!!

Q- Do you think that Pia is genuinely in love with Jai this time and what
she shared with Pushkar was nothing more than a mistake of youth? Or
do you think that once again, what Pia is undergoing is nothing more
than a Desire and the fact that she can't have the man she wants is
making her go so heart-broken and shattered and not the fact that she
loved and lost him?

A- I think Pia for the first time in life his feeling this wave of emotion for
somebody other than her Bani di and Rano ... and she feels this is Love...
and I am 100% sure Pia has no clue what love is all about... I think she
just wants Jai – period - she is hearbroken right now because this is the
first time she is realising that Pia charm does not work on everything and
anything and that too the 2nd time :) .... I am she will suffer from this
dillusion for sometime that she loves him but once spurned she will get
into her obsession act... i can see her getting there...

Q- Jai's surprise, followed by his amusement and then his complete
surrender to Bani in the Beach Scene. What do you make out of this? Is Jai
just amused by the change of personality that his wife has undergone or
is he really happy about the fact that the woman whom he loves feels the
same intensity for him and expresses them openly?

A- JW not even in his wildest dream must have imagined that uski
sharmati aur auro ke liye jeene waali biwi kabhi uke aur apne baare mein
bhi sochegi... aur wo bhi aise khule aam!!! .... I thought Jai was totally
caught unaware this time and for once he was not ready with his guard/
mask of indifference..... for that monet it was actually just Jai and Bani –
and Jai was beaming because he is slowly and steadily warming upto
Bani's show of affection.... oh how i wait for the day he will utter – I love
you Bani – and hug Bani and say – I love you Bani – and hug Bani and say –
I love you Bani – and hug Bani till Bani faints with suffocation!

sorry i did get carried away there... oK that was my bit (!!) on your Q's...

cheers yanka

The truth should be revealed to B preferably by JW post haste (goin by his past record he might wait till the arrival of Krishna part deux). The repercussions of not doing so would be pretty drastic. The relationship with B would lose its essence and veer towards stilted and we would be subjected to another several months of heartburn & eastman color effects a la PR raaz.

CAT