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Posted: 18 years ago
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MT, here I go with my answers:

Do you think Jai was clear enough in expressing what he wanted to with Pia, without offending her sense of dignity? Or do you think, he should have been more curt & brusque with her and ordered her to stay away from Bani and his Life?

Yes, he was clear enough in expressing himself to Pia but I really hoped he could have answered her at the end when she implied she wanted to be part of his life just like Bani.

Do you find Jai Walia to be a "Sensitive" Man, one who might be rude and offhand in his outward behaviour but is innately very considerate and caring of other people's thoughts and feelings?Do you feel his conversation with Pia showed him as someone very decent and honorable man who might make mistakes but does not shrink from facing them thereafter?

He is a very sensetive man and this he has shown a number of times with his behaviour with massi, dadi, Aditya, Anu, Sahil, Rano,Jigs, Ranveer,Pushkar, Tarun, Pia too, but seeems to loose his mind and sensetivity when it comes to dealing with his wife when shes upto her karamchand ways. 😆 Otherwise he is a very decent and honrable, caring and sensetive man.


Why do you think Jai told Pia to forget about having any relationship forged between them? Is it because as Jai himself says that he is Married and so is she and whether they love their spouses or not, they have to continue with their respective marriages? Or is it because, he really feels nothing for Pia and even without Bani in his life, he wouldn't have thought of having any future with her? Or is it because, Marriage or no Marriage, Jai only loves Bani and cannot think of a life with anyone else apart from her?

All of the above. He has told again and again, that he cant live without Bani as she is his better half, the mirror to his soul, his true soul mate, a part of him, his trust, the reason he belives in god, etc, etc, etc. The only thing left for him to do is confess his true feeling to Bani and to himself too, that he loves Bani completely with his heart and soul.😳😃

Do you think that the Conversation with Pia lightened Jai's burden and that is why he was so relaxed with Bani during their Beach-date? Or do you still feel he is reeling under immense guilt and wants to confess to Bani before he leads her on anymore?

Yes, it did to an extent, but the burden of the mistake will remain with him always. He was relaxed with Bani because he loves her alot and is pleasantly suprised with the new bold Bani, who is not shy of expressing her love for him as he always wanted. He was over the moon because Bani is back in his life again.Didn't seem at all guilty during the beach scene at all or that Pia was on is mind. He couldn't see anyhting except Bani.😆

Hypothetical Question : "What you don't know shall never hurt you." Do you think Jai should follow the dictum and keep quiet about his misadventure with Pia in front of Bani and go ahead with his married life and forget all about what happened? Or do you think that "Honesty is indeed the best policy" and that if Jai doesn't confess to his guilt, he would never be able to live happily with Bani?

Personally I would prefer that Jai sits Bani down and tells her the complete truth.About his stae of mind and Pia 😡forcing herself on him.

One can never hide anything for ever and the truth has a way of coming back and bitting you when you least expect it.Its better to tell the truth then live with guilt all your life. "Honesty is indeed the best policy" and knowing Bani and her love for him,if she knows the truth and how much Jai loves her and regerts his actions she may completely forgive him his fall from grace.


Do you think that Pia is genuinely in love with Jai this time and what she shared with Pushkar was nothing more than a mistake of youth? Or do you think that once again, what Pia is undergoing is nothing more than a Desire and the fact that she can't have the man she wants is making her go so heart-broken and shattered and not the fact that she loved and lost him?

Pia, is in love with herself and no one else. She is one self centered and delusional women.I really don't think she even knows the meaning of real love. For her everything is wants and desire. She wanted Pushkar because she couldn't take Jigs taunts and thus pressured him to elope on her wedding day with a care for Bani or Jai.

After ruining Pushkars life and in yesterdays episode telling him she forgives him, for what one may ask. She is the one who has to ask for forgiveness from Pushkar, for calling him a loser all the time, carrying out an abortion with out his knowldge etc.

Now suddenly she loves Mr. Walia because of the pain hes going through because of Bani and loss of his child, which she very well knows Bani did not abort but had a miscarriage.???

How come she feels his pain now, and not before, just because she saw how caring, givng a husband he is towards Bani.

For Pia, love is what she wants and desires at a particular time, it has nothing to do with the real thing.

If she was really in love she would let Bani and Jai live happily without interferring in their life or making the last comment to Jai.😡

Sorry if I got carried away with my answer but Pia just plain irritates me and I can't find it in my heart to feel even a wee bit sorry for her.😡

Jai's surprise, followed by his amusement and then his complete surrender to Bani in the Beach Scene. What do you make out of this? Is Jai just amused by the change of personality that his wife has undergone or is he really happy about the fact that the woman whom he loves feels the same intensity for him and expresses them openly?

He is over the moon that Bani is back in his life and that she loves him as he does, though he hasn't said it to her loud and clear. He is pleasantly suprised, amused by Bani boldness and really happy that he women he loves, loves him with the smae intensity and is espressing her self openly. Am waiting for Jai to do the same soon.😳😃😆

Loved answering your though provoking questions, hope I didn't bore you with ny answeres.

Love

Krishna

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Posted: 18 years ago
#32

Now girls, your Q&A session begins, be good and answer them as well as you do everyday:

Do you think Jai was clear enough in expressing what he wanted to with Pia, without offending her sense of dignity? Or do you think, he should have been more curt & brusque with her and ordered her to stay away from Bani and his Life?

He was clear, considering the fact that he is usually not too open about his feelings. I loved it when he told it about Bani ebing a part of him.made it loud and clear to Pia

Do you find Jai Walia to be a "Sensitive" Man, one who might be rude and offhand in his outward behaviour but is innately very considerate and caring of other people's thoughts and feelings?Do you feel his conversation with Pia showed him as someone very decent and honorable man who might make mistakes but does not shrink from facing them thereafter?

He has a high amount of sincerity in him. He has always cared for relationships, other's feelings, excluding the times when he was blinded with anger!

Why do you think Jai told Pia to forget about having any relationship forged between them? Is it because as Jai himself says that he is Married and so is she and whether they love their spouses or not, they have to continue with their respective marriages? Or is it because, he really feels nothing for Pia and even without Bani in his life, he wouldn't have thought of having any future with her? Or is it because, Marriage or no Marriage, Jai only loves Bani and cannot think of a life with anyone else apart from her?

All of it together. He doesn't feel anything for Pia, he respects himself for being Bani's husband, and he respects the pavitrbandh marriage

Do you think that the Conversation with Pia lightened Jai's burden and that is why he was so relaxed with Bani during their Beach-date? Or do you still feel he is reeling under immense guilt and wants to confess to Bani before he leads her on anymore?

It indeed did give him relief!. Atleast, he doesn't have to hide himself again when he sees Pia!

Hypothetical Question : "What you don't know shall never hurt you." Do you think Jai should follow the dictum and keep quiet about his misadventure with Pia in front of Bani and go ahead with his married life and forget all about what happened? Or do you think that "Honesty is indeed the best policy" and that if Jai doesn't confess to his guilt, he would never be able to live happily with Bani?

He should confess, husbands should learn to be open wih wives!!!!It'll make Bani appreciate Jai more, else she would be quite hurt!

Do you think that Pia is genuinely in love with Jai this time and what she shared with Pushkar was nothing more than a mistake of youth? Or do you think that once again, what Pia is undergoing is nothing more than a Desire and the fact that she can't have the man she wants is making her go so heart-broken and shattered and not the fact that she loved and lost him?

She is the queen of misunderstandings, but one can't blame her for loving a person.

Jai's surprise, followed by his amusement and then his complete surrender to Bani in the Beach Scene. What do you make out of this? Is Jai just amused by the change of personality that his wife has undergone or is he really happy about the fact that the woman whom he loves feels the same intensity for him and expresses them openly?

He was too surprised to react in any other way, and I think its the starting of beautiful Jai Bani days.....!

Would be awaiting your answers…..

Cheers,

MT

PS: Wish you all a very Happy Karva Chauth!

MT, I love answering to your questions. Pls send me links as you did before, because I keep missing your posts,as I don't log in often due to school and other work,and I certainly don't want to miss your posts again!

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Do you think Jai was clear enough in expressing what he wanted to with Pia, without offending her sense of dignity? Or do you think, he should have been more curt & brusque with her and ordered her to stay away from Bani and his Life?

I think he clearly told her that what he felt was right. His answer was perfect considering he assumed that she still wanted to be with Pushkar. If she had felt the same as he, then most likely she would have concurred with him. Jai could not have been more respectful of her feelings, and although he was not reciprocating them, he tried his hardest not to throw it in her face that he did not want to be with her. He gently let her down. Because he felt this was a mistake on both their parts, and he is assuming she feels guilty as well, there was no need for him to be short with her.

Do you find Jai Walia to be a "Sensitive" Man, one who might be rude and offhand in his outward behaviour but is innately very considerate and caring of other people's thoughts and feelings?Do you feel his conversation with Pia showed him as someone very decent and honorable man who might make mistakes but does not shrink from facing them thereafter?

I think it depends what the situation is. For the people he loves, he is extremely considerate, yet tough when he needs to be. You can see this in his relationship with Masi, in comparison to his relationship with Jigyasa. To Masi (even Bani), he is gently and kind and soft spoken. With Jigyasa, yes he cares for her, but he has to be tough on her because she has such a strong personality. He doesn't always agree with what she does simple for the fact that she does not consider anybody's feelings, and he is well aware of that.

He is honorable to know that this could ruin Pia's reputation as a woman, and because he is so respectful he will not use it against her. He doesn't like women to be disrespected in any sort of way- remember, he kicked Pushkar out for almost slapping Pia. He could not tolerate that. Also, remember he might have used harsh words with Bani, but never did he raise a hand on her. He was also man enough to realize that what happened was a mistake, and admitted to do it as well. He easily could have shyed away and never said anything to Pia. He could have easily ignored her, and never said anything.

Why do you think Jai told Pia to forget about having any relationship forged between them? Is it because as Jai himself says that he is Married and so is she and whether they love their spouses or not, they have to continue with their respective marriages? Or is it because, he really feels nothing for Pia and even without Bani in his life, he wouldn't have thought of having any future with her? Or is it because, Marriage or no Marriage, Jai only loves Bani and cannot think of a life with anyone else apart from her?

Jai realized the gravity of his mistake. They key here is that he realized his mistake before Bani even showed up. He admitted to himself that this should have never happened. I think the main reason he told Pia to forget about any relationship between them was because she was the one that broke his heart originally, and he did now want to go through this again.

I think that living with Bani, he gained a perspective on what he wants in life, and he realized later that Pia was not right for him. Although he was in the middle of the divorce, he still had thoughts of only Bani. Yes, he loves Bani, but his understanding of love is still a little immature. He later saw that for Bani, her greatest act of love was giving him up, so he could have everything that was rightfully his.

Without Bani, I think he felt extremely alone and scared. Pia was always in the picture somehow, but for him the feeling was not the same.

Do you think that the Conversation with Pia lightened Jai's burden and that is why he was so relaxed with Bani during their Beach-date? Or do you still feel he is reeling under immense guilt and wants to confess to Bani before he leads her on anymore?

He really wanted to clear the air between them, and I think him speaking and making it clear to her regarding his intentions made him feel much better, although he knows it is not completely resolved. I think that the beach date took him by surprise, and the fact that there would be just the two of them that night, with no worry of Pia or anybody made him feel more relaxed. I think he seemed so relaxed because for that one moment, he was able to forget about Pia and what happened. That one moment he was with his wife, his love, the woman he wants to spend the rest of his life with.

Him drinking after the beach date, shows him coming back to reality. He drinks alone, and feels alone. There is nobody to sympathize with his situation. Who should he share this with? The feeling of guilt came afterwards, but at least we were ablet o see his true feelings.

Hypothetical Question : "What you don't know shall never hurt you." Do you think Jai should follow the dictum and keep quiet about his misadventure with Pia in front of Bani and go ahead with his married life and forget all about what happened? Or do you think that "Honesty is indeed the best policy" and that if Jai doesn't confess to his guilt, he would never be able to live happily with Bani?

I think that it would be more respectful if he shared it with Bani. On top of that, he would feel better knowing that he is not hiding anything from her. This mirrors the Park Road Raaz. He was so fearful of Bani finding out the truth, that when she did find out, it hurt her even more. The question should be, does he really want to hurt Bani again? He will always have it in the back of his mind what he did with Pia, and Bani will never understand what he is fearing when he is around Pia. His actions will show tension, and this is something she will never understand unless he confesses to her.

Do you think that Pia is genuinely in love with Jai this time and what she shared with Pushkar was nothing more than a mistake of youth? Or do you think that once again, what Pia is undergoing is nothing more than a Desire and the fact that she can't have the man she wants is making her go so heart-broken and shattered and not the fact that she loved and lost him?

I think it is infatuation. All she can really see is all the things she wanted in life, which she feels she would have never gotten from Pushkar. The wealth, the fame, the power.. all the superficial aspects of life define Pia. She wants something that she can not have.

Often, you can not see the things that are right in front of you, but you do see the things that other people have. She see's that Bani has the love and support of a husband. If Pia would have acknowledged it, she would have the same, but she didn't. She couldn't realize the wealth of love right in front of her.

Jai's surprise, followed by his amusement and then his complete surrender to Bani in the Beach Scene. What do you make out of this? Is Jai just amused by the change of personality that his wife has undergone or is he really happy about the fact that the woman whom he loves feels the same intensity for him and expresses them openly?

He bows down to Bani.. after going through so much she still loves him this much. He is definitely amused by this change in her, and a little surprised at the same time. He still doesn't quite understand what happened, but he wants her back in his life. Without her, his life seems empty and he realizes this.

His hesitance might just be that he doesn't know how to express his love for her. The depth of his love is so intense that he is having a hard time understanding it himself. I think he is wondering if this feeling is the love that he has longed for, his whole life.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: mistletoe

The whole problem with Bani is that she might not be St. Bani in the future but at the same time, she might be so upset and angry with Jai that she might just walk out on him and tell him and Pia to go to hell.....

In the sense she might not "sacrifice" her marriage at the altar of Pia's desires but at the same time she might not want to live with Jai after all.....Then it would all depend on Jai.....Will he rather spend the rest of his 40 years trying to pacify Bani or just accept Pia in his Life?

Bani fighting for her rights will be a possibility only if Pia does something stupid and irrational like lable a Rape charge on Jai and then Bani defends her husband, inspite of knowing that he did have a ONS with her, with mutual consent!

Cheers,

MT

😡MTTTTTTTTT, u r weak today after KC... do u want to get from me😡? you know what are you doing... you are giving new new ideas to this brainless creatives team who is searching the whole world for a fig... and here you are.... OMG you know what if they force to follow that second stupid thing... he is such a public property now that any one can go and build a house in his brain...😡 shhhhhhhhh if you gets such options in future say it in low voice... yaar

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: mistletoe

Jai found his soulmate when he was going through his roughest patch in Life and Bani found her soulmate when she was going through her Lows! No wonder, as Jai as always says, that his relationship with Bani is "Dard ka Rishta"…and relationships forged under anguish & pain are ever enduring!

Pia questions Jai, "Agar aap kal toote hue nahin hote, toh kya aap ko mera sahaara nahin chahiye hota?" Translated, "If you were not a broken man yesterday, wouldn't you have come to me for support?"

Jai answers Pia, "Hum dono ke beech jo bhi hua, isliye hua kyunki hum dono akele te,
unlogo ke saath nahi te jinke saat hum rehna chahthe hain." Translated, "Whatever happened between us happened because we both were alone, we were not with the people whom we wanted to be with."

Jai has always been very straight, exact & completely unequivocal in his communication with everyone (Save Bani at times) and his conversation with Pia in yesterday's episode will remain to be one of the best in KS till date! Jai felt terrible for Pia, he felt concerned for her and he felt guilty for the state she was in because of him, but at the same time, he was so very CLEAR on where he stands….Not only with his feelings as regards to Pia, but also in his feelings for Bani! Strangely, both Jai and Bani have expressed what they feel for one another to other people with such clarity but never to one another! Be it Aditya or Massi and now Pia, Jai has always put across his feelings for Bani to them in a manner which not only conveyed Deep Love, but also immense respect, almost bordering on worship! The very fact that Jai tells Pia, that he was with Pia, not only because he was alone, but also because, he couldn't be with the person whom he wanted to be with, sent shock waves throughout Pia's whole self! This is perhaps for the first time that Pia realizes what Jai feels for Bani and with what intensity he feels for her!

Also, we might criticize Jai for a lot many things, but one has to give credit where it is due! Not once did Jai lable any accusation on Pia, or say that she was the one who forced herself upon him (Which she did and he knows that). Nor does he say that whatever happened was only her mistake. What makes Jai honorable in not the fact that he is blemishless or faultless, but the fact that he makes his shares of mistakes like any other human being but does not run away from them or put the blame on anyone else…He stands to face them and sort them out instead! Jai might be a a lot of unflattering things, but he is surely not an escapist or a coward.

I think the best dialogue that Jai says is that, Bani is a part of "Him" just the way Pushkar is a part of "Pia" and that he cannot turn away from Bani, come what……Look at his expression when he says in an exasperated manner, "Pia, jo tum chahti ho, woh nahin ho sakta, hum dono shaadi shuda hai…." Good to see that Jai still holds his Marriage in high regards, even though Bani gave him several reasons to take his belief away from the Institution!

completely agree with u on the above MT......and Happy Karva Chauth to u too MT..................as for the answers, here they go.......

Ans 1) (haila ...........i feel like Im back in school giving my exams........😆😆.............)

In my opinion Jai was quite clear on that..............he expressed in a true gentleman way that whatever happened b/w Pia and him shudnt have happened and i think he gave quite a good reason for Pia to believe how much he still loves Bani . Also i liked the fact that he accepted his mistake and didnt just go on to blame Pia for whatever happened.

Ans 2) yes, very much a decent man that he is...i guess i mentioned about it in the first answer.

Ans3) I think he cleared all the confusion with Pia becoz he still loves Bani and he is sure whatever bani made him go thru, she had a reason for it..........and i guess after having had many unsuccessful relationships in the past............he is completely floored with Banis loyalty and hence finds himself only complete with bani and cannot think of his life without her or with anyone else.

Ans4) I dont think his converstion with helped him shed the burden of guilt completely.........though partly he was relaxed of atleast having being clear to Pia of his feelings for her...........and considering his straightforwardness i think he will tell the truth to Bani befor going any further with her........as he thinks keeping this from her wud mean deceiting Bani once again..

Ans 5)the dictum "What you don't know shall never hurt you." will not be very helpful to jai coz there are many others present around him who wud want to volunteer to blurt out the truth to Bani........in that case he better be clear with her, and what all that meant to him, himself and leave it to her to decide rather than she coming to know from someone else which will definetly be all spiced up........whatever the consequences of the truth being revealed , he has to bear it as he was very much a part of that sin and now be ready for the outcome.

Ans6) I dont think that with the character of Pia that is portryed, she can stay happy with one man. I guess what she feels for Jai is just an infatuation............the Love and careJai expressed for bani................that same love and care she got from Pushkar as well....the only difference is in the bank balances of the two.......................and thaty is what matters to her the most..................and so she is more greedy of the complete and perfect package that she finds in Jai .

Ans7) I feel itis a mixture of both.........he is amused by the sudden change in her behaviour and at he same time happy that he is getting what he expected from his better half (todays episode proves this when he feels guilty of having doubted bani), and he seems to be happy to see the ray of some happiness between him and his beloved wife.

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