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Posted: 6 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: riti4u

Well Karna is one of most liked character of Mahabharat and interesting conflicting personality makes him most sought after character for books, TV and films.. thats the reason there have been already two shows recently on him.. and yes in past also there has been one show called Maharathi Karn on him.. People like his story.. and thus these novels on him are best selling ones...


Karna is not a likable character he is the one who instigated disrobing of draupadi clothes when for a moment duryodhana was hesitating after sakuni gave advice to duryodhana not to make mess with draupadi and let it go .after Karna support again duryodhana started the game to disrobe. Ganguly mahabharat was clear in this narration

..he is the most intrigued character i.e people r curious about him ..and trp aunties not interested when u show him as main lead of show

Regarding books being sold is different issue from trp ..

If 1 lakh people buy a book that book might be fetching profits for seller but 1 lakh watching it on screen won't give u 2 plus trp

So people interested on him are few and it works in case of books but trp wise it won't work
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Posted: 6 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: VARUNI2014



Karna is not a likable character he is the one who instigated disrobing of draupadi clothes when for a moment duryodhana was hesitating after sakuni gave advice to duryodhana not to make mess with draupadi and let it go .after Karna support again duryodhana started the game to disrobe. Ganguly mahabharat was clear in this narration

..he is the most intrigued character i.e people r curious about him ..and trp aunties not interested when u show him as main lead of show

Regarding books being sold is different issue from trp ..

If 1 lakh people buy a book that book might be fetching profits for seller but 1 lakh watching it on screen won't give u 2 plus trp

So people interested on him are few and it works in case of books but trp wise it won't work



who says he is not likable character.. just because you don't like him... doesn't mean people don't like him.. There may be mistakes committed by him but there are lot other reasons too to like him..
Yes People who like him exists and even they are not watching the show coz many don't like Kane's interpretation of him too..

This is not a documentary on what KMG has in it.. Even Star Mahabharat wasn't according to KMG.. this is a fictional show..
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Posted: 6 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: VARUNI2014


Karna is not a likable character he is the one who instigated disrobing of draupadi clothes when for a moment duryodhana was hesitating after sakuni gave advice to duryodhana not to make mess with draupadi and let it go .after Karna support again duryodhana started the game to disrobe. Ganguly mahabharat was clear in this narration

..he is the most intrigued character i.e people r curious about him ..and trp aunties not interested when u show him as main lead of show

Regarding books being sold is different issue from trp ..

If 1 lakh people buy a book that book might be fetching profits for seller but 1 lakh watching it on screen won't give u 2 plus trp

So people interested on him are few and it works in case of books but trp wise it won't work


Excellent analysis. I think the creative team fails to differentiate between likable character and intriguing character. Karna is an intriguing character and that is why many people like to read about him. He is not 'ideal' anything. That is one thing very interesting about him. But now a days there is a trend to make him ultra mahan by making fictitious stories. Thus main essence of his character's intrigue is lost...at least to me. From star plus mb through suryaputra karna (which I couldn't tolerate after a couple episodes) to KS, karna has become so much mahaan one dimensional character that it has become ridiculous. Even people like me who used to find him very 'interesting' (not likable) can't continue with this show.
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Posted: 6 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: VARUNI2014

The Frank reason is

First of all the work regarded by historians close to vyasa mahabharat is Ganguly book on Maha Bharat

100% shudh sach. BORI simply wasted 50 years making CE.

Even star plus Maha Bharat was taken from Ganguly book

Very much. Especially Karna marrying Vrihsali, Arjuna doing Karna's funerals, and that monkey-doneky sat on a wall song sung by Draupadi during her wedding, and her main-bhootni-hoon kinda dailogues in Dyuta Sabha...the list is endless.

And br Chopra mahabharat was also inspired from Ganguly book

Yeah. absolutely. Ganguly's 'book'.

Both producers told that

Oh yeah. There were even separate interviews on that. I remember.

And no where in Ganguly mahabharat there's a mention of uruvi character

Yes. She is missing. I somewhere read Karna sold her to one of his soldiers. That must be an event too awful for anyone with even a little class to mention.

And mahabharat ramayan are NOT MYTHOLOGY they f called ITHIHASAS

And that is why Ramayana calls itself 'Kaavya'...

That means they happened at some point of time

They happened...

And Kavita book on urvi is completely fictional

Satya vachan...👏


People don't like to tweak ITHIHASAS Might be some youngsters don't have no problem but those youngsters are more interested in Netflix any way so they don't watch this show.

Yes. Yes. Youngsters. They are too young to understand anything. Impressible age, isn't it?

And people who tend to watch this don't like getting mahabharat tweaked

Definitely. That is why Arjuna still kills Karna by cheating.

They are more interested in pandavas Krishna story rather than katns that too tweaked fictionally

How can they not support the parampara?

Even before this show started I said to some tejaswi fans this show is doomed and thus wI'll be a failure and tejaswini .Made a wrong choiceg

Of course. Cursed show about a cursed guy. How worse can it get?

I won't expect this show trp to pick up and according to star plus rules any bad trp show less than 1 trp willl be there for 6 months I suppose

Even Karna, who predicted many things, couldn't have made a better prediction.



Well, what to do? Karna fans are unpath ganwaars.😆 A thorough education under the mercy and intelligence of 'learned' scholars is not something they would dream about.
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Posted: 6 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: riti4u


Yes evidences are found thats true but the story in narration can be deviated from the actual events. There is no actual proof of written scriptures being that old when story was actually narrated. Its been oral form for many years and there is a possibility of deviation too and indeed it is not possible to include all the characters in the story especially when they are not Key characters leading to war. Karn's wife is unknown in the actual narration. She doesnt even have a name. Thus that possibility of what her journey would have been gives an author countless possibilities to explore. Yes ofcourse her being so involved and being so close to pandavas ,one can argue but original novel also takes this liberty. So far i dont think they are altering the events that took place. Mahabharat does not focus much on feelings unless it is in the important events like VH and war related stuff.. there is always a possibility to explore unseen side of women who were widowed on the other side.. Makers are already exploring unseen side.. 😊



From what I have understood, Mahabharatas in regional dialects have been in existence as long as the Sanskrit ones. Nearly 10 Indian languages are more than 1500 years old. I don't see the reason for exerting any authenticity on Sanskrita versions over regional versions other than the tradition. But does that even sound a sensible reason? To pick one language over the other just because it is 'tradition'? Sanskrit, in the form it is used in Mahabharata, has many contemporaries, like Thamizh, Kannada, Telugu, Malayalam, Marathi etc... So how can Sanskrit alone be authentic?🥱

We cannot conclude that, so we also cannot blame makers for choosing whatever they want to show. They are showing what they felt right, like how all different versions differ from each other!
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Posted: 6 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: VARUNI2014

Yes I remember you .I did not forget any one from rlhn forum 😊
Problem is not with direction or taking .problem is with story .karna is known as one among dusta chatustaya in mahabharat .people won't be interested in a fictional show on him

But if u make a fictional on Krishna they r interested or even on Arjuna
What ever we might make fun of ekta ...but ekta knows how to get audience hitched ..she will never make blunders like by choosing karnsanginiii type subject
She willl choose supernatural .Or drama with triangular lovevstory
Her .. Intelligence is choosing naagin as supernatural show since she knows people if all ages fascinated always with naaglok and it is nentioned in magabgarat too and people do poojas to naagins too ..

She did not choose any foreign super natural series as it would not attract trp auntiesv



@bold, underlined - 😲 that is NEWS to me. Did Vyasa actually say it?
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Posted: 6 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: riti4u

Well Karna is one of most liked character of Mahabharat and interesting conflicting personality makes him most sought after character for books, TV and films.. thats the reason there have been already two shows recently on him.. and yes in past also there has been one show called Maharathi Karn on him.. People like his story.. and thus these novels on him are best selling ones...



😡 No. No. No. As I previously said...
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Posted: 6 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: mnx12

@ riti, We are discussing the reasons for why the show is not working. Those who are convinced are already watching the show. But ratings shows viewers are quite few.



I think people are bored with MB and this show has nothing interesting enough to offer daily and consistently.😆
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Posted: 6 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: tuli08


Excellent analysis. I think the creative team fails to differentiate between likable character and intriguing character. Karna is an intriguing character and that is why many people like to read about him. He is not 'ideal' anything. That is one thing very interesting about him. But now a days there is a trend to make him ultra mahan by making fictitious stories. Thus main essence of his character's intrigue is lost...at least to me. From star plus mb through suryaputra karna (which I couldn't tolerate after a couple episodes) to KS, karna has become so much mahaan one dimensional character that it has become ridiculous. Even people like me who used to find him very 'interesting' (not likable) can't continue with this show.



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Posted: 6 years ago
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I think there are a lot of factors working against the show.
Mahabharat on star plus was aired just a couple of years ago with top notch music which became an instant range.
Amazing sets and actors yet it garnered criticism for not portraying grey characters.

Karna's wife though a good book was not a national bestseller .
Added to that it shows a fictional character never heard of by most of the TV audiences.
Mahabharat is viewed as having a lot of divine and supernatural elements along with the divinity angle of Krishna.

The show would have worked much better if they actually made a modern contemporary adaptation of the book. Also showing a modern and innovative twist to it, maybe even a happy ending
A story maybe about a either royal or rich family business rivals with uruvi a rich family friend choosing an outsider than her childhood friend.

Something on the lines of a Raajneeti or the old Rajnikanth movie Thalapathy ( all the characters were very sensitively portrayed and you fall in love with Rajanikanth's character very similar to Karma's)
In fact there was an old serial in Star plus called I think Saarthi , don't remember the name which was a modern day Mahabharat.

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