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Posted: 9 years ago
#11
I finally saw the episode, Parth was decent, nothing exceptional. This is his routine in emotional scenes. The only time his emotional scenes were great IMO was during the Nandini kidnap track but after that even the breakdown with Cabir was again off key.
I think the problem to an extent is Path's dialogue delivery, he pauses too often and at the wrong moment which takes away the impact of the scene. It seems like he is trying to recollect the dialogue😆

Which is why his romantic scenes work since they have less dialogues and more expressions.

P.S. This is not Parth bashing post just an objective analysis of his acting which I have always wanted to do.

P.P.S I also do not think he is an attractive crier, like Ranbir Kapoor who also makes me cringe when he cries on screen.

And more than attractiveness it is the effortlessness, Sakshi Tanwar may not look great when she tears up but she does it so naturally that I can't help but empathise. Parth is more robotic in that aspect which I feel hinders his emotional performance. Clenching ones jaw is not sufficient to emote ones angst.
Edited by shar1988 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I think...Manik will come in as the life-saver! Now he will be the rebel leader!😆
Remember one thing! Maddy is still acting all bossy and once Manik sees the way Maddy is treating Fab 5 (as in not allowing to jam up in their old room/being arrogant and cocky all around them) Manik is surely not going to sit back and watch! He will return to fight Maddy!😆


Maddy's weird attitudewala behaviour is going to make Manik into the old monster Manik! Now Maddy is going to meet his match! Ye jo misunderstanding hui hai...that will be cleared the moment Nandini will tell him that she was hallucinating! Fab 3 members, Navya and all will together convince Manik how much Nandini missed him all these days. Manik himself knows how much Nandini misses him. Ye tho mometary gussa hai!😆

However much U say that Manik is the type to confront...do remember this! Manik has two sides to him! U can even call him a la gemini!😆

On one side...he can be silent/hiding feelings type (like when he was acting all sarcastic, arrogant, rude with Nandini when he got to know of Dhruv's feelings)

On the other side...he goes and questions everything & confronts!

It's not that Manik is always confronting. There is another side to him. U can't say that Manik is a pure black or pure white character! His character is grey! He is unpredictable...yet predictable. He throws tantrums...gets emotional...breaks benches...sits and cries silently! When Dhruv broke up with him...he first threw benches...then was crying on Nandini's shoulder! He has many times hidden his pain and tried to smile...shown anger and then turned apologetic.

Even before when Manik was having these love feelings to Nandini...instead of confronting, he tried to keep away from her...tried to avoid her. He had two sides actually!😛

But once Manik is back in SPACE...I sense a war between Manik and Maddy!😆
Edited by priakachan - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#13
Hmmm...very interesting replies and it's always a pleasure to see different POVs.

First things first, the comment on Parth's acting was a very unbiased one tbh. Everyone in this forum knows me as a "Parth hater" but the fact is that I have always been unbiased in judging the acting skills- whether it's Niti or it's Parth.

And Parth has always struggled with emotional scenes since Musicana episodes. The two times he has aced them were 1. post Dhruv's taandav and 2. during kidnapping track (one of my personal favourites!).

Moving over him, coming to the storyline, the point is everyone here are hopelessly trying to rationalize something which simply CANNOT be rationalized!

1. Manik wasn't supposed to come back coz Parth walked out of the show.

2. They brought Maddy as the new lead for Nandini and planned the story accordingly...at least tried to as he was a last-minute addition.

3. Like I've said before, it's not easy to plan a story with a new entry or re-entry...one or the other way SOMETHING is definitely going to get compromised- here it's MaNan.

Therefore, no matter how many of us try to justify Manik's POV or the current track, we will be going around in circles because this is NOT RY's KY2- this is someone else's!
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Posted: 9 years ago
#14
Take a bow !
Its difficult to be original in approach , gladly you are being one . 👏
You are right , the story cannot be original ..but what they are showing is somewhere making sense better than nothing ...the freshness here was exclusively brought up by Niti ..so that's what is making the show live . Though Richa has made it a long way , no one else can live that magic ..there is a hope lying somewhere ...that's what is making me attached to the show ..(Maddy was a lovely perspective ..)
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Posted: 9 years ago
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True...Madhyam's character was brought as a new replacement for Manik. I mean...that is where the problem started. The kind of romance...the kind of chemistry that Parth and Niti have onscreen...that is the biggest reason for the success of KY2.
The way Parth romances Niti onscreen...the way Nandini reacts to Manik...though it is only acting looks more real than real romance, even when the actors are not even having deep friendship between them offscreen. I mean...they are thorough professionals in that sense..that they get into the skin of their characters. When they hug, they hug like there's nowhere else to go. That sort of real romance is not very much visible onscreen in serials. Whether its their passionate hugs or their love hugs or their consoling hugs...they have acted with the right consistency! The credits should go to the CVs, the director, script-writer etc too who have made the romance even more beautiful!😉

I would here..disagree with U! Though I am not a huge fan of Parth or something, but I felt that the way Parth portrayed Manik...if not for his fabulous acting skills, we wouldn't have seen different shades of Manik. I can't say his acting shone only in the 2 points U mentioned! From the start, the kind of cocky, weird, attitude Parth enacted as Manik is his acting skills! Parth is an amazing actor in that sense. They wanted him to first portray a monstrous character. So from the start he had to act cocky and arrogant like Madhyam is made to act right now & added to it a bit crazy too!😆

Season 2 main jab Madhyam ko le aa rahe the...that time all were still drunk in the romance of MaNan. The addiction of MaNan scenes are so heavy that...fans failed to notice that Madhyam had same voice as Manik or Madhyam had same cockiness that Manik initially had. CVs wanted to repeat the same story. A spoilt Madhyam being guided by Nandini..Madhyam falling for Nandini and perhaps a passionate romance between them...Nandini seeing Manik in Madhyam...perhaps that is the way they wanted to take forward season 2.😉

But even when at certain points...Parth gives exaggerated expressions as in even in singing scenes..Yuvraj has a different persona, he is more cooled down while doing singing/guitar strumming scenes. That is why even when he was acting all arrogant and all...the kind of expressions Manik give when making fun of Nandini..is somehow enjoyable. I mean the way he widens his eyes while making fun of her...its funny expressions😆 While the scenes where Madhyam is making fun of Nandini...we don't find it as enjoyable. We find it clearly rude, but not funny!😛

In anger also Parth acts quite natural...I mean he acts to a level where he looks scary/crazy! Some explosive anger it is!😆 But I feel that is his style. A bit of exaggerated reactions makes Parth a more animated actor than Yuvraj. 😉

When Parth acts sad...the expression he gives makes fans cry...but when Yuvraj got angry and sad...we didn't feel that sad. I think Yuvraj gives more laidback expressions and Parth gives more explosive expressions. Maybe the one reason why fans love Parth as Manik is coz...Manik is like a volcano..that can explode any moment!😆

To replace an explosive character like Manik, they brought a cool type of Madhyam...which I feel was not perfect, I would say. Madhyam is not as scary as Manik...and the CVs couldn't manage to keep the TRPs high...for S2, because audience wanted Manik back...audience wanted Parth back as Manik! MAdhyam+ NAN= MaNan banane ke koshish hue...but audience wanted MAnik+ NANdini=MaNan...so Parth returns😆

Truly that is the reason why whole story had to get twisted and turned. But from the way the Season 1 ended..I think, Parth may have stated that he may/may not return. So the CVs didn't make the climax scene of accident as showing Parth and Ayaz in the car unconscious while explosion is happening. They showed Parth getting out of the car. So perhaps MTV people also had intentions to do it. Maybe MTV wanted to bring in a new lead in Season 2 with a fresh romance. Now its a credit for Parth that audience wants Parth himself to be back. It is not so often that audience are this persistent to bring back the same actor. 😛

Maybe the audience already assumed that the romance of Madhyam and Nandini may not be as explosive, passionate and funny as that of Manik and Nandini! I hope that we get back the old funny Manik and not a cooled down Manik with misunderstandings and stuff.

I hope CVs make the Season 2 as spicy and sweet as Season 1. Parth returning is exciting for me too...because more than the friendships...I enjoyed the romance of Manik and Nandini!😉
Edited by priakachan - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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^Ok, that was you talking in a wholly different tangent.

In case you didn't read my above post properly, lemme tell you that I'm talking about Parth's struggle with emotional scenes apart from the scenes I mentioned, I'm not talking about his acting skills on a whole.

Not everyone can be good at emotional scenes and they're definitely not his forte. Ayaz was good at them Niti is good at it but not everyone.

That's about it.

Apart from that, here I'm only talking about trying to make sense of something that just doesn't make sense no matter how much we try.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Yup... I totally agree with you.
I always feel that parth's acting in emotional scenes weak, I never connect to his acting in emotional scenes but he is actually good in romantic scenes. But yesterday i felt very much disconnection in his emotional break down part. Its just my POV.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Lilith.

^Ok, that was you talking in a wholly different tangent.


In case you didn't read my above post properly, lemme tell you that I'm talking about Parth's struggle with emotional scenes apart from the scenes I mentioned, I'm not talking about his acting skills on a whole.

Not everyone can be good at emotional scenes and they're definitely not his forte. Ayaz was good at them Niti is good at it but not everyone.

That's about it.

Apart from that, here I'm only talking about trying to make sense of something that just doesn't make sense no matter how much we try.


Yes yaar...agree! But thinking carefully..he was not given that many deep emotional scenes to enact actually! He is more asked to be gussa, arrogant, act spoilt or be romantic!😆

Crying sceneswaale deep situations he got mainly during Dhruv part when Dhruv spoke to him of his love for Nandini and the moment Manik realizes that he has to sacrifice Nandini, that part he cries (as Dhruv is his closest buddy) and the part where Dhruv leaves Manik! Uske baadwaale scenes main bhi...as Nandini is mostly with Manik...and as Manik is either gussa with Nandini or protective...zyaada crying scenes nahi aaye!

Next major scene where he had to cry and be upset was when his Nandini got kidnapped. Other than these three situations...he had scenes to be upset...but not many to be emotional and crying! But now in S2...this is his 1st crying scene after a long time!😛
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Posted: 9 years ago
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TM
I totally agree with you. Actually emoting emotional scenes not everyone's forte. From all the KY2 cast only Ayaz and Niti are excellent in emoting emotional scenes. I think Parth need to improve.
Actually I also want to mention mukti's acting in KY2S2, she is only shouting shouting.. really for normal dialogue also she is shouting. Its really irritating.
Please CVs its request give less dialogues n less screen space to mukti, her acting is very bad in KY2S2 n its really irritating. whenever she comes on my screen i will just mute her. Just my POV.
Edited by ramashh - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: rasheki

Yup... I totally agree with you.
I always feel that parth's acting in emotional scenes weak, I never connect to his acting in emotional scenes but he is actually good in romantic scenes. But yesterday i felt very much disconnection in his emotional break down part. Its just my POV.


Yaar that is coz..in yesterday's crying scene...Manik's crying was more of disappointed crying...than the crying when he is losing someone close heart!

(1) In scenes of kidnapping Nandini (he thought he lost her/something bad will happen to her)~ So his crying style was deeper

(2) In scene where Dhruv broke up with him...when Dhruv confessed his love of Nandini to Manik and he felt he will lose her (he thought he will lose Dhruv/Nandini) in these scenes also Parth was to act a more deeper/lost kind of crying

But in yesterday's scene...he was confused, disappointed...maybe a bit angry..dejected...that kind of crying cannot be same as when he feared losing his loved one!😳


Some crying scenes have to show deeper emotions...fear of losing, agony... but yesterday's didn't require a too deep emotional outburst. 😆

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