The mind vs the Heart! - Thread - I need You! (Day 17); pg 28 - Page 13

Originally posted by: Smiley_23

@ Twinkle and Sunny...

very good post from both of u 👍🏼

Originally posted by: AARMAY1

awesome... post @ twinkle & Sunny ... loved it
honestly after every episode iam egargly waiting for your post... 👏👏
well written... thank you so much 🤗

Originally posted by: anotheranfan

I liked the pink part a lot.. yes that is nandini.. Isnt it nice to see how maanik can openly ask her why she was with panditji.. Jealousy is outright there to see ... And she telling him it was for him to catch her.. For him to realize her fake fall in hope of him catching her.. They truly have unique relationship... Now only if Maanik can let go of that fake hate he is so hell bent on embracing.. But surely not for long.. esp the way things seem to be favoring Nandu's Hope

👏 for the pink.. Music is just *bahanaa* its nandini thats going to bring that smile and the proof lies infront of our eyes.. All he has to do is accept it ..

Originally posted by: twinkle10

Hey everyone! Due to some unavoidable technological issues I am unable to post my response for today's episode at this stage. It will take some time, but I'll have it up soon.

Thankyou and sorry for keeping you guys waiting.

Twinkle :)

Originally posted by: twinkle10

DAY 10! - What is true love?

"Assal meh tum dono keh paas bahaut time hai. Tabhi yeh sab games khelte rahte ho"

Today's episode was a little slow but much needed. It was time for Manan to listen today. It was time they learnt the importance of time, the importance of true love. It was time for them to listen, absorb and then react. It seemed to me that they had done enough talking over the last couple of days so it was time for their mind and heart to rest a little today. Today, Manik's struggle wasn't necessarily of whether to listen to his heart or to his mind. He faced the dilemma of whether to pay heed to himself, Nandini or his friend (in today's case; Mukti).

I've got to admire that Mukbhi's contribution towards Manan's realization in today's episode was undoubtedly applause-worthy. Mukti may have not had the kindest in reaction towards Nandini but she had her reasons for that. She was hurt because Manik's heart had claimed his Nandini to be right and Mukti's decision of not informing them about Abhi, to be wrong in front of everyone. But at that scene I felt it wasn't so much about the mind vs the heart, it was more about Mukti's wellbeing. It was about right and wrong. Manik favored Nandini because he knew Mukti would eventually fall apart after Abhi's death and being her family, her best friends Fab 5 wouldn't have been able to see her in such pain.

Mukti might have blamed Nandini's interference for her tears, the pain she felt in today's episode. But rather it was her adamancy of keeping mum about this situation of hers that led her into an abrupt breakdown. The importance of communication was again re-visited in today's episode. Where on one hand we had such a positive and smile-filled start to the episode, the confrontation of Fab 5 and Mukti was just as heart-tearing. If I were to speak honestly, for me it was an absolutely treat to watch Fab 5 huddle in a group and support their friend, their brother at his first day at work. Just how I've missed their group hugs, their bonding celebrations, their cake celebrations. After all they are meant to be the pillars of support for each other. "Yaaron...dosti...badi hi haseen hai..." Just how apt these lines are for these bunch of friends. They really have been the bestest of friends in each other's worst of times. They've been each other's parents when the need came to wipe each other's tears. They've been each other's siblings when they felt like playing a hilariously torturing prank. They've been each other's counselors when they ended up losing a certain battle in life. But over time some differences have emerged. Whilst the bond and the love and the unselfish care still remains... Secrets have driven them apart. For the first time today, I felt that somewhere Manik's lack of communication with Fab 5 was a prime reason why Manan are treading on different paths today. At the time when Nyonika narrated and enacted her manipulation saga, Nandini was alone, emotionally weak and psychologically vulnerable. I feel as though if she had had the support of fab 5 at that stage, Manik's suffering would have been less. In fact who knows, maybe they wouldn't have diverted parts in the first place. But their lack of communication and lack of revelation to the Fab 5 worsened the situation. If we actually think about it, Fab 5 were right in their accord to express their disapproval of Nandini in Manik's life. After all for them, she was the prime suspect who had caused Manik to embrace darkness and harshness once again. Their friend was in writhing pain because of her. But to some extent, Manik's just as big of a culprit in causing this pain to bestow upon him. Because had the fab 5 known about Manan's relationship, they would've understood Nandini better, they would have been able to understand her value in Manik's life with a more distinct perspective.

But nevertheless, it can also be said that there was a need for Manan to taste the bitter taste of separation. It was vital for them to experience temporary separation in order for them to permanently reunite at some point. I feel as though these circumstances that they are currently fighting with, will not only help them in realising their love for each other but it will also teach them the importance, the value of true love. The correlation of love and trust. It will teach them how to respect and nurture their love.

It was such an enlightening when when Manik is talking to Mukti and Nandini is conversing with Nandni. Mukbhi's realization of love may be recent, but they have managed to map out the depth and intensity of their love. Mukti's love has taught Abhi to foresee the reasons of why she sometimes acts the way she does. It has taught him to understand his partner, their relationship to the fullest. And Abhi's love has taught Mukti how to smile for the sake of other's happiness. It has changed her In a way that she now wants to spread the happiness that her Abhi used to once want to spread in people's lives. This act of maturity, understanding and selfless love was important for Manan to witness. As they say, you sometimes don't tend to realize the real value of an object or person in your life until you see them going away from you. Similar is the case with Manan. Manik was unable to cope with the thought of Nandini leaving his world, his life forever and hence he ordered for her expulsion to be cancelled. Nandini couldn't imagine the thought of not having Manik's shadow present in every step of her life so she challenged his notion of his so called "hatred" that he feels towards her. When Manik saw Nandini walking away from his life, he was sure that he couldn't let her go like this, hence he stopped her. His heart was absolutely sure at that point that she was the one for him. But today when asked by Mukti whether he was planning to get together with Nandini, his silence spoke uncertainty, doubt and half-hearted acceptance.

I loved the scene when Mukti so fearlessly, with a clear state of mind, cries "But I'm not confused. I know he's the one. I love him." With the confidence she said those words and the absolutely doubt-free inner-consciousness she possessed was a learning that Manik needs to uptake. He needs to realize that love is when you wake up everyday and you can undoubtedly claim that no she is the one for me. He needs to realise that there is no room for a "maybe" in love. It's either yes or no. Be it Nandini''s lies, her anger, her betrayal, her love, her faith or her trust. It's all a part of her and she's a part of me. Manan can't reunite till he realizes that when you're in love, you control your own mind and heart. You don't let them control you. She ten said to him "Aur Manik life meh true love na... Itni easily nahi milta." As our Nandini once said to cabir too... "If it doesn't hurt, it's not love." I feel my Manik still needs to realizes the alternate definitions of love. He knows sacrifice is one because he's burnt in that fire before but he needs to know pain is one too. He needs to realize that when you're in love and you find the one, their existence and disappearance from your life doesn't depend on your wants. Once they become yours, that bond remains forever. If they say it's hard to find true love, it's virtually impossible to let go of it. But he has hope. And that hope shall be the enlightenment path to his realization. It shall guide him and teach him that for him, there should be only one definition of Love. Nandini.

Now moving onto Abhi and our Nandu's conversations. Whilst Manik may be the heartthrob of this show and the college, this guy seems to have his life sorted in every way possible. Honestly speaking, I would actually fall for Abhi too. He is pretty much the epitome of happiness and positivity. The one guy who could reach any height in this world with his never-dying smile. But time is being harsh on him. He lacks the time now. Perhaps that's the reason the lessons that people tend to learn step by step at various stages of life, he's already learnt them in the early years of his youth. I believe that whilst Nandini's grip on her love, her feelings and her emotions for Manik is somewhat firmer than Manik's; she still has the potential to grow further and add growth into her relationship. To be honest, I was glad when she asked Abhi "Abhi, jhoot kyun bola?" Whilst we love the righteous and truthful side that Nandini possess and uses to fight for what's right and what's wrong, I find that somewhere she needs to learn that love isn't about right or wrong, truths or lies. I mean yes you shouldn't be lying to your partner with the intention of cheating them. But Nandini still has to learn that this life is too short and unpredictable. And if some moments of happiness can be bought with the price of a white lie, then it's a very little price to pay for someone's happiness. She still needs to simulate that saying into her life that "everything is fair in love and war". Like I've said before, I feel Abhi fulfills that need of an elder brother, of a mentor that Nandini has always needed. She is after all human too and I feel she wasn't able to understand herself in the initial years of her life because she had other responsibilities to fulfill. She had to fill in the spot of her parents in Rishab's life for which reason she somewhere didn't get the time to understand the workings of life in some aspects. But Abhi taught her today, that when you have true love, why waste time playing games? Why waste time in staying away from each other? Why waste time in walking alone when you can walk together?

I also quite liked the scene when Manik and Nandini were deep in their thoughts, walking in the corridor trying to figure out the meaning and workings of true love. When they came face to face after a while, I knew that they had taken a u-turn from their individual paths and were now trying to figure out how exactly to return on that mutual path of love.

"Like how... How do you just always show up... Just when I need you?" I loved how for just a fraction of a second my Manik forgot he was supposed to be fighting a battle. He was supposed to be pretending that he hates her. The way he laughed a little laugh to himself just shows how even if he had asked for anything else at that moment, he may have got it. But once again, he denied his heart's call and let the mind do its workings. "When I need you to not be there." Oh just how delusional can my baby get. For how long he will fight with himself over and over again and deny that there is something more than just an ordinary love and hate relationship between then two. It ached for me to see that even after so many hints that his heart has given him, he finds true love just an illusion. He still was confused whether what he felt once upon a time, what he feels for her now is actually true love or not. Lucky for my nandu in this case, she's never had to face such a dilemma. She has her mother's words that still echo in her ears and she has the evidence of her fireflies' ability to grow, as evidence. There is true love and she knows it. The way she holds her hand and asks him whether he actually doesn't believe in true love was quite a beautiful scene actually. Possibly my favourite scene of today. Because for once he didn't flinch off her hand. Instead he took her hand in his hand and caressed it in the hope that maybe her touch will lead him to all his answers. He held her hand in his hand as if he was handing himself over to her for just a few minutes so she could enlighten him whether true love existed or not. His heart had kicked back in into the picture and he wanted to trust her with assuring and convincing him that their love was actually true love. That Manik and Nandini were meant to be.

Alrightey guys so how can I wrap up without mentioning the promo! Well well... Holy party is next and aren't we all excited to witness the next step of their relationship. What realization will they face next? What struggles will they face next? At the same time there's a part of me that feels that there is actually a serious and genuine reason as to why Nandini hates holi. Perhaps it's to do with her parents? And let me just mention, if Manik unknowingly hurts her feelings in the adamancy of playing holi with her... We are definitely in for some deep and emotional moments then when Manik will try to make up for his mistake.

Hope you enjoyed today's episode and sorry for the delay again.

Much love!

Twinkle <3

Originally posted by: anotheranfan

You know what i think... I think Maanik is so wrapped up in feeling of betrayal that he is negelecting all other feelings towards Nandini.. He finds those feelings illusion... He is still so stuck up in the moment when Nandini told judge that she doesnt know... That he hasnt moved past it... He has forgotten what his heart feels... And by that i mean what it really feels... He needed this wake up call from third person about how even without any mistake from any of them, things could go wrong.. And it is then that you need to stand by each other and fight it out.. Together.. You arent suppose to sacrifice.. You arent suppose to play blame game.. You are just suppose to stand by each other.. You are suppose to be there for each other.. When one person feels low, the other has to make up for it.. Not pull him/her down.. That conversation that mukti had with Maanik about being there with a smiling face for Abhimanyu just to make sure he knows she loves him.. Yeah.. That is what love is.. It isnt thinking about how Its going to end badly so let me just pull myself out.. Or abhi asking her to stay away from him... It is spending whatever time left together.. Be it sad or happy moments.. Sharing them... It was very important for Maanik to listen to that because clearly he is still wallowing in his wounds.. feeling of betrayal.. But he has to snap out of it.. Because *true love is not easy*... Loved mukti today.. I read so many posts today that said how angry manan fans feel for she snapping at nandini.. But when i think from Mukti's angle.. It seems like she was justified.. First of all she didnt want to let fab 5 know because she didnt want to be lectured to separate from Abhi.. And she knew.. we knew thats how they were going to react... Wasnt that exactly what maanik was suggesting.. Fab 5 - group of broken friends.. Who have not really seen true love.. How could they understand it... How could they understand her need to be with Abhi even if its just for few days/months... So she wanted to protect herself.. Yes in Fab 5 now they have their own set of problems.. their own secrets... But thats bound to happen in life.. They arent just kids coming from broken families.. They are growing and having different experiences and hence different problems.. And its that feeling of being bound because of same experiences make them not share these new issues with one another.. If they were from normal family, their parents would have taught them., helped them believe they can share anything with loved ones.. But thats not them.. And that explains Mukti's and for that matter each member of fab5's need to hide these things from one another... Just loved this whole reveal of Abhi's cancer.. how it covered so many emotions especially for fab5.. They have always ran away from these.. Gotten away by bullying people and protecting themselves.. But how long.. The real world out there it doesnt work like that... You have to deal with these issues.. You need to forget, forgive mistakes other make.. And in turn that allows you also to be human because then you can make mistakes too.. Because there is someone who will still understand you.. still be with you.. with your flaws.. Just because of Love.. So yeah today was big lesson in Love for Maanik...Learning what trust really means.. It doesnt mean that it is broken by doubt.. It means someone being with you even through those doubtful times..

You mention that Nandini has scope to grow.. Yes every person needs to grow... But i differ here in what you thought of that scene with Abhi... I rather take it as lesson for her to be who she is... not change just because some trouble pops up.. She doesnt need to say something she doesnt feel.. Abhi is not forgetting his smile.. Need to make others smile just because he is in love.. He is keeping his attitude towards life for himself.. For Mukti and for everyone around him.. He lectures her about wasting time.. Because he cant see tears... He is just being himself... even on deathbed.. Even in tough situation there is no need to change... He loves mukti for who she is so he understands her anger.. She loves him and his need to make people around him smile... so she is with him with same smiling face.. That's what love is.. Understanding each other.. Understanding the pros, understanding the flaws and being with one another for that.. not despite of those.. Nandini needs to learn that just because she thought maanik could kill soha for herself.. She isnt wrong.. It isnt mistake that can not be forgiven.. Infact i feel she needs to understand that what she felt was what she felt.. Just like love it is not right or wrong.. And she shouldnt be sorry for expressing what she felt.. And by expressing her doubt she is not doubting their love.. If she was.. She would be hiding somewhere and wouldnt have come in front of the judge.. I feel like her innocence.. Her attitude of always trying to do right thing is something to admire..Well we all know Maanik didnt kill Soha.. But would he have killed.. I can bet by first unborn child that if need be, he would have... That much in love he is with her.. Whats wrong in having those doubt.. Its time to stop feeling guilty..

Also i am not sure communication is what caused this.. I agree they need to learn to communicate better.. But Maanik informing about his feelings to Fab 5.. I dont think it would have changed what Nandini got manipulated into.. For eg.. wasnt cabir aware of the situation.. He was there to talk to her.. And yet he told her that Maanik can do anything for her then be it killing... I strongly strongly think its maanik's lack of belief in true love.. And understanding of what exactly it is that they are walking two different roads at this point..

Oh i love the last scene.. Maanik is still confused about his feelings.. You have said it.. Its more of confusion of whether he can let himself feel that .. whether he can forgive her.. accept her with her flaws.. It isnt required that whatever she thinks has to be right... But that also doesnt mean she isnt allowed to think that way.. It doesn't mean she trust him any less.. When he talked about illusion i felt sorry for him.. Really.. Because even with presence of true love of Mukti and Abhi, Mukti opening her heart out on what she feels, what she is willing do, he cant believe it.. Why cant he see what he is willing to do for Nandini.. How he is not willing to let her go.. His wound.. Well he cant think that is bigger than what he was saying right infront of her.. Infact how is him hurting her every day.. taunting her.. doubting her love, her trust every day since different from what she did that day.. I would say thats even bigger mistake.. yet she is there.. She is fighting for it.. Dude.. Watch it out.. Otherwise it might be late.. Sitting in hospital and watching a person on death bed should make you realize that.. So yes when he uttered those words i feel sorry that he couldnt learn all these lessons he could have learnt.. True love he could have which as he said is so rare.. Its time to grow up.. Really...

Well i am excited for holi.. It does really look like sexiest holi party ever.. I just dont know how its going to move ahead with all the drama that happened today.. But i trust cvs to do justice to the story and give us awesome scenes without loosing the essence... Looking fwd to it.. Happy Holi :)

Originally posted by: Manan_aRMAAN

Wonderful... you guys said it all... I just agreee...😃

Hi Twinkle

this is Sana...

I am here because Pri suggested me to read you because I guess she found some similarity of understanding in our writings...

I could not read you because I usually get stressed out after writing emotional staff... and I have to cool off the stress(prescribed by doctor!)...so the time I have I usually read easy fun things like fictions... or write my fiction...

I read you today...and I find that you are also a crazy KYY fan... who is ready to accept all the actions of the characters and justify putting yourself in their shoes... I warn you girl... I turn schizo sometimes...

so you must agree we are blessed with this most amazing show...

I believe life to be beautiful... and I am like Abhi ... I have done l anger management sessions for ppl too...😕... so I always say you don't know who dies next... try to leave for the happiness of ppl around

I love this show for not making any character perfect... not making any one strongest from all points...

And not making the characters predictable...

And finally from one emotionally rationalizer to another ...I get how much you enjoy your writing