The mind vs the Heart! - Thread - I need You! (Day 17); pg 28 - Page 11

Originally posted by: maankigeet4ever

haha..glad i made you intentionally or unintentionally but i told you..this smiling/laughing business really good for the life..we humans just need to make an effort.

The face value was really symbolic in the aspect that it would be taken in different directions..though i feel all along he is trying to teach her to analytic in life...to observe..to absorb..to evulate before she does anything. Technically she should have questioned his niceness and not taken water from him so easily but then again...she does still trust him. It was a interesting scene nonetheless and room for interpretations.

We gonna talk about Fab 5 now..like the points you brought up such as that you don't want Fab 5 breaking up and i am with you on that. I feel as thou even if Manik's priorties have changed in life...it doesn't mean he doesn't love his family..or his family might not love him. Fab 5 are not just friends..they are each other's family..and they have been each other's support for years now..as flawed as they might be individually...together they are simply fab 5 and they will be one when needed. But falling in love, being with other people will teach them to better individuals...like i said...new people..they add to our perspectives..give us new knowledge..new experiences..so Manik with Nandini and Mukti with Abhi and Navs..and Cabs and Navs..these relationships will add to the dimenison of fab 5. Fab 5 can't break...they are a family..there may be clashes or differences but there is also love.

Dhruv/Alya,: never been much of my likeable characteres..i mean i felt friendship worked so much better for now...now they are in a rocky place...they seem to solve problems physically..Ahmen...i recommend talking it out people ! and for the love of fudge saue woman..stop with the weird anniversaries..lol..100 days to a kiss, who remembers that ? oh yeah, alya does *faceplam*

okies babe...this response isn't done well at all..maybe cause i am wiped out so forgive me...i will put a more coherent reply tomorrow and make up for points i missed today.

Originally posted by: anotheranfan

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On bold line... I thought he going and sitting on the other side of railing was his attempt to keep the distance... He struggles through that too but atleast he has safety of pulling back... Kind of reminder to keep his mind in charge... I would say today his mind was totally overpowering his heart but heart didnt loose without fight.. With Nandini coming to a place where once they joined hands to become partners, had their many memories... He followed her their.. It was unanimous decision by both heart and mind.. Heart wanted just glimpse of her while mind had to gloat on getting into the class that nandini thought he would not... When Nandini told her that she knows he is joining concert for his hatred towards her, thats when real fight started.. His mind was glad that she believed it... But his heart was angry and was expecting her to see through this pretense.. As you said, I cant live with you and i cant live without you - Just two lines... But those were the gist of his struggle.. Till he said he couldnt live without her his mind was doing perfectly well... But as soon as he saw her with those hopeful eyes, and the precious smile his heart devours, his heart was resurrected to fought harder.. He gave her possibility of being together if she can tolerate him through this concert preparation.. Well we all knew that but that was just huge moral boost for Nandini and she didnt let that go in vain.. When his mind made came back reminding her that he is going to make it impossible to get through the concert she gave it back.. She was ready to fight with new vigor..

cant appreciate you enough for saying this.. The confidence and zing as maanik once called is Nandini.. She is the only one who knows how to fight and bring down all his walls.. Her smile... She really stepped up after that and was all set to fight.. And as you said it is ironic that he came to her and he gave her that hope... Yes she had that confidence when she came to college today but it was shaken when he returned back as monster ready to torture her as her partner for the concert.. When i think this scene in the light of the last statement of the episode where maanik tells her not to take him on face value, i feel like he is hinting that dont believe him when he says he is here to hate her, torture her.. Yes he will make life impossible but he expects her to believe that he wants her hope to succeed..

👏👏👏 Goodness, your essay today is full of deeper meanings... Deeper analysis.. How true it is that Maanik hates her because he loves her... I think because he loves her he is putting both of them through all this torture.. He coming far ahead with nandini... I think this is what he meant there.. He cant return without fighting.. Him relying on hate is his way of fighting for them.. And as you said, she trusts him... Has faith in him.. Just think about the precap.. She is falling and she knows he is going to catch her... (Its different story he is too late to actually catch her :D) Thats her side of the story.. Both represent their love, just two sides of coin...

With maanik's attitude of he being best topped with his lady love whom he is fighting praising one person who is completely opposite to what he is, That must light some fire of jealousy... I liked how he keeps murmuring to himself when she says pandit is right.. Just start of this jealousy track.. You know i like this kind of track because it isnt creeping from romantic feelings from Panditji.. I am strongly against pandit having romatinc feelings for nandini.. But this is all teacher student.. Nandini being the studious well mannered girl how can she not be favourite student to any teacher.. Now panditji also has some amps connection so that adds to the spice.. Todays manik jealousy was more about his frustration of him not being good enough for her.. I am sure he would always feel less compared to righteous nandini and he has the recent court room statement to go along.. So the wounds are still fresh.. It has to hurt...

isnt it awesome that by giving her water both his heart and mind won :) Heart couldnt see her struggling so much and mind couldnt let go the opportunity to let her down infront of panditji who takes her as ideal student.. It was perfect plan... For girl like Nandu who is always in good books with teacher, whom teacher has never scolded, it is humiliating.. It is most effective torture i guess.. In the end he warned her to not take him on face value and her winning chances look blick.. But tomorrow's episode would help him get off his high horse and take step back on his torture level..

Btw did you watch the Holi promo.. The online links have very bad audio quality but the video itself Holi would be time to lock the mind in some storage and wear heart on sleeve... looking fwd to it..

Originally posted by: twinkle10

DAY 9! - It's one-all!

"Manik... fusion concert solo nahi ho sakta... iska matlab yeh hai keh do music ka milan..."

Aaand after much awaiting, my Manik finally smiled today. And who was the reason? His music, his song, his Nandini. Just like when they come together, a beautiful bubble of Manan is formed, similarly in this concert, the fusion of his music and her music will seal them in this Manan bond forever. I can still recall his smirk towards the end of yesterday's episode as he rejoiced his hatred's first victory against her hope. As the Panditji announced 5 extra laps of punishment for his beloved Nandu, he mocked her for her blind faith in him. He mocked her for her trust in him. But today, it was the same blind faith, same trust that brought his long-lost smile back on his lips. His "hatred" might have taken a step ahead of her "hope" but it was his Nandu's turn to shine today. And how could he forget, she's that star who can alone manage to brighten up his whole life. Her "hope" to a victorious leap today that will take some time for the "hatred" to catch up to. Whilst my Manik stood there throughout the episode, trying to bring peace to the war between his mind vs his heart, his lady love ever-so confidently played her own mind games today. Lucky for her that her mind and heart are on the same team. Her mind wants to defeat his mind so her heart can win his heart forever.

Manik's journey in today's episode was rather rocky. His battle with his mind hardly existed. He had to battle it out with his heart today. And it nearly got out of control. It took mere seconds for his smirk to change into a frown as he saw her struggle to keep going on the ground. He thought he'd enjoy the view of her punishment. He was again too sure that he's be at peace to see her in pain, in struggle to keep fighting. But once again his mind lost its essence and his heart pounded faster and faster with growing anxiety and restlessness. For a second he thought it was going to burst if he had to spend even one more second of watching her so helplessly run the laps of punishment that he infact deserved. He really did seem to go blank in the mind at the time. He repetitively cursed himself for being so heartless to the one who taught his heart to beat. His eyes continued to follow her as if they were trying to shield her from the sun's heat that was weakening her stamina. "How could you Manik? How could you just leave her alone out there?", his heart continued to question him. Manik knew that if there was a mirror around him, he wouldn't be able to face himself towards his own reflection. His heart wouldn't allow him that kind of permission. He was guilty of lying to her. He was guilty for the each and every moment he lied that he hated her and was going to make her life hell. He was guilty and punishment-worthy for that every tear that escaped from her eyes because of his harsh words. He was guilty for the every laugh he laughed; even if it was for just 5 seconds; but for everytime she suffered, His involuntary movement started once again. His fidgeting started once again. He had hoped that it wouldn't return today to give away his secret but little did he know that it was almost like an automatic response now. A response out of his control. Every time he would see her suffering he would find himself in the helpless and restless state of mind. The only way to overcome this helplessness was if he let his heart win this baffling war. Then came the point he couldn't take it anymore. He was holding back the urge to run to her and sweep her up in his arms so she wouldn't have to walk a single step more. But his mind wasn't going to let him give in that easily. So he finally spoke up. "Don't you think you're taking it too far?" Let us remind ourselves that this is the same Manik Malhotra who couldn't even stand the sight of this panditji let alone talk to him. But today, he spoke because she was in pain. The way he kept his eyes on her, even whilst talking to panditji was his heart's first victory of today. He could go to any extent to see her pain-free, misery-free and agony-free. So reasoning with panditji would be the least he'd be able to do for her in this situation. Seeing her breathless, he could feel the lack of oxygen himself. Seeing her swaying a little out of exhaustion, he could feel the ground shaking beneath his own feet. But the question remained... Had he taken it too far? The panditji had already answered him upon his first ask, but this question yet still remained that his heart couldn't help but ask him. Had he exceeded his limits today? The limits he'd himself marked which would allow him to keep his distance from her but it would also allow her to stay close to him. He was still searching for the answer within him, when the unimaginable happened. The hands that used to always stay on alert to save his love if the need ever be, were a little too slow today. And he knew the catch that he had just missed was one which was going to haunt him for the coming days. It wasn't just any catch he had missed. He had missed and failed to live upto his promise to her. That he'll always protect her, he'd never let her fall.He had missed the opportunity to hold her closely against his heart and feel the warmth and calm that only she could evoke in him. He had missed the lucky chance of losing himself in the depth of her love-filled eyes and allowing his heart to just heal a little more. But it was already too late. What was meant to happen, had already happened and Manik knew he would have to bear with the thought of someone else's arms around her for the rest of the day.

And so he continued to burn and fume. His heart continued to throb and bleed. Had he really just handed over his heartbeat, his ray of light, his Nandini to someone else? He tried to make music, but all that came out was sound. He tried to forget about the thought, but the scene seemed to be playing on continuous repeat, right there in front of his eyes. The way he practically storms into the room where Panditji and Nandini were talking; expressed the restlessness, the madness he was feeling upon knowing that she was with the same person who had just replaced him in the catching sequence a few minutes ago. He was in pain. And this time it hurt more than it had at the magistrate's office. Because this time, he was responsible for the state of his own heart. And when he saw him again, he felt his ground shake. He may have not realised it, but that was his first step into this journey of self-realisation. The realisation that it really is impossible for him to stay away from her for long. He knew that if there was a reason that he could get through his day with enough sanity, it was because her presence kept him rooted. It allowed him to stay Manik. And the bear thought of having her spend the moments that she could have instead spent with him, was tearing him apart from inside. He was used to her following him around anywhere and pretty much everywhwere. In amidst of all this "hatred", he had forgotten that she was the only hope, the only strength that he had to fetch hi out of this pool of misery, hatred and darkness. He wanted her time all to himself. It tore him because she was supposed to be concentrating on winning their battle of "hope vs hatred". And so he stored out of the room, just as he had stormed in; without listening to her.

I've got to say that today for me, the show-stealer was Nandini. That girl knew just how to step into lead today. It requires quite some guts to step by step follow Manik Malhotra and it seemed as if she had taken an oath to not give up until she was able to heal another part of his heart today. My poor Nandu, she had solely hoped that it would be her Manik to save her from falling when she enacted to faint. But little did she realise, that in order for that to happen... she had perhaps needed to stand closer to him and not panditji :P But either way, the victory was still hers in that situation too. Manik's fuming anger and possessiveness drove him crazy through the first half of the episode. His anger was showcasing the passion, the love, the need of Nandini that flows through every vein inside him.

Oh with what bravery My nandu followed behind him on that staircase despite his deathly, stern looks. And when she bumped her head into someone else's guitar, he absolutely blasted!

"Kya kar rahi thi tum uss pandit ke saath?"... the question that he had been continuously asking himself ever since she had walked off with panditji from the oval. If only he could see that even in this so-called "hatred" of his, he demands all her attention, all her time to himself. if being angry with her, torturig her was his right then today he expressed that demanding her presence at every moment, even amidst all his anger and frustration, is also his right.

But she knew exactly had to set things right. She had been hopeful that when she would reveal to him that she had infact fallen so he would catch her, he would melt. But it wasn't going to be that easy. His mind once again, manipulated his anger and he ended up saying what he wasn't meant to say. "Bulllshit! I would just let you fall. Instead I would be happy watching you fall". And then he fumed even more because she decided to just walk away. He fumed because he wanted her to convince him that no, he would catch her if there ever came a situation. He fumed because the whole day his heart had driven him crazy with his jealous emotions and their were questions he still needed answers to but instead he let her walk away. He fumed because she was supposed to be fighting a battle of hope for the both of them, but instead she seemed to be the last person to care. But little did he know that when just like a Nandini promise, a Nandini challenge is never forgotten either. And so she executed the game plan that her mind and heart had come up with together. She used her mind and dropped the bottle to make the floor wet, and she used her heart to trust blindly on her faith in him and stepped on the bottle. She wanted to fall for him, for herself, for them. She wanted to fall because she knew he had been disappointed just as much as her when he wasn't able to hold her in his arms. She wanted to fall for herself because she only ever wants to feel his presence, his touch and his hold in her life. She wanted to fall for them because every time she lands up in his arms, their heartbeats start to beat together reminding them that they are the reason for each others' existence.

"My hope wins. One-all Manik!"

And then appeared the most beautiful sight in the world. His smile. A genuine smile. The smile she had been longing to see. Oh just how much I had wished she had hid in some corner to see his smile return in his life. To see that in fact she was the reason and only means that could bring that smile back. H's hatred may have lost at that point but he was more happy that her hope had won. That his hope had one. At that moment, relief and calm filled through him once again. It required only one touch from her behalf to calm down his all-so jealous heart. He knew that more than anything, she had fallen or at least pretended to fall for him. She had fallen to assure him that she only ever wants to land up in his arms. She had fallen to retell him that she still trusts him blindly that he would never let her fall. She had fallen to assure him that she will fight for his hope till the very last day of this fusion concert.

Before I wrap I just wanted to talk a bit about Cabir and Navya's growing relationship and the precap of tomorrow's episode. So we've seen Cabir making the effort to call Navya's mum adn asking her to come to Bombay to visit her. So I'm assuming it's not too far now when her mum will find out about the pregnancy and perhaps break all her ties with Navya? This would be the fresh start of Cavya I believe as once again they both will be on the same page of disowned, hurt and love-less. We've seen Cabir struggle with his mum and how ultimately he was left all alone to face the world. Similarly we will now see Navya's struggle of trying to resolve matters with her mum. And during this time period, Cavya will become the biggest pillar of strengths for each other. We have already started to see Cabir's feelings of ignorance and isolation as the rest of his friends are busy to sort out their own individual lives. And I feel this is where he will find his support outside of Fab 5 too.

Now for the promo. My manik has himself confessed that there is hope. He can see it himself now. He can almost feel her presence back permanently into his life. But his mind has been banning him to tread on that path. On the other side, Abhi's words will bring in a new level of confidence in Nandini. As they say, if you really want to understand the importance of life you should ask someone who is dying day by day and isn't able to do anything about it. Abhi has always been the elder brother, the guide Nandini never had. And again we will see that tomorrow he teaches another very valuable lesson of life to her. She won't waste anymore time after this in winning back Manik. We will see her urge to spend more time with him too perhaps because life's too short and predictable. I'm excited to see how their growing love for each other will keep them away any longer.

Alrightey guys... so sorry this wasn't posted sooner. Nevertheless I hope you enjoyed last night's episode!

Stay Smiling :)

Twinkle <3

Originally posted by: anotheranfan

Twinkle, Missing your post today, but with the episode like today i had to rant it out so .. here it is :)

If yesterday was dominated by Mind today was all out heart.. Mind it was almost non existent... The way maanik started feeling restless and then all right helpless with the pain that nandini was going through.. He couldn't help himself and try to talk her out of this punishment through panditji... But panditji showed him who is the Boss :) The way he raised his eyebrows when maanik tells him to stop the punishment .. Awesome acting... I think Pandit is adding great value to their story... He is perfect teacher who is concerned about his students but also knows how to discipline them.. Maanik needs that lesson on his attitude and Nandini needs the focus that Panditji is trying to instill in her..

Maanik's heart just could not see nandini being held by someone else.. If his mind was present it would have seen that it was *just the saving someone who was falling* nothing to get possessive over, and esp if you are trying to hate that falling person but his heart... It just didn't see anything else.. I think more than jealousy it was the helplessness, feeling of inadequacy of not being there for nandini when she needed.. Seeing her smiling towards panditji was last straw.. Oh and look at his concern when he asks her if she is ok and asking panditji to not take her with him.. Who is he trying to fool :)

The best part was panditji asking nandini if she thinks he is blind... That whole converstation of making her realise that its isnt like she will stay on the concert even if she keeps loosing her focus... She needed to hear that.. the concert isnt just about getting maanik back... it is also about the music... And she needs to learn to respect that...

Her tiptoeing behind maanik .. He told her don't act cute... Was it is his way of trying to control his feelings.. But was he successful.. No.. .He almost interrogated her about falling in panditji's arms :) But our Nandini (i love her for the attitude she gave him today.. that's the nandini maanik fell in love with) she told him it was he she was hoping to catch her... But only for him to deny that.. But nandini was not ready to back down and proved his claim right there... She told him the score is 1 all but we know its more than that :) Because the scoring didn't start when they started counting points.. We have been scoring since long time back.. The moment maanik told her that he hates her... And we all know the score isn't even.. If it was he wouldn't be here catching her.. feeling jealous, helpless.. He would be letting her fall as he told.. He wouldn't be fighting his own hope... For now let these two be in that bubble but we all know what the reality is...

Originally posted by: twinkle10

Aaand after much awaiting, my Manik finally smiled today. And who was the reason? His music, his song, his Nandini. Just like when they come together, a beautiful bubble of Manan is formed, similarly in this concert, the fusion of his music and her music will seal them in this Manan bond forever. I can still recall his smirk towards the end of yesterday's episode as he rejoiced his hatred's first victory against her hope. As the Panditji announced 5 extra laps of punishment for his beloved Nandu, he mocked her for her blind faith in him. He mocked her for her trust in him. But today, it was the same blind faith, same trust that brought his long-lost smile back on his lips. His "hatred" might have taken a step ahead of her "hope" but it was his Nandu's turn to shine today. And how could he forget, she's that star who can alone manage to brighten up his whole life. Her "hope" to a victorious leap today that will take some time for the "hatred" to catch up to. Whilst my Manik stood there throughout the episode, trying to bring peace to the war between his mind vs his heart, his lady love ever-so confidently played her own mind games today. Lucky for her that her mind and heart are on the same team. Her mind wants to defeat his mind so her heart can win his heart forever.