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Posted: 10 years ago
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oops...double post ho gaya...Sorry..😳


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MD



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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: eveline

yup nandu be love... ❤️


hehehhe who said fun topics are popular here... over here its like people who are friends wid uh only dey will comment on ur topic... but yes ur writing always amazes me n dats d reason i always read dem n comment on dem n now dis doesnt mean dat u r not my friend... n do i need to say dis thingy again dat I LOVE YOU yaara... 🤗
Sorry for not quoting. Well we all come here for some relief from the harsh realities of our daily lives, so that is understandable I guess.

Hmm...so we have camps here😆!! No probs...the only camp I belong to is KY2..and I have made some amazing friends here, and I hope to make some more, it promises to be an interesting journey!!

Thanks its always nice to know that your thoughts are well liked...ensures that you are not a psycho I guess 😉...And of course our love and respect for each other are quite mutual and evident...just like MaNan 😃🤗

PSYCHO... 🤣🤣
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Muggle_Diaries

Eveline,

Beautiful and heart felt post.

It really sad that Navya is being blames, if at all she is. All of seventeen and has to face the harshness of the world.

Can we really blame her for trusting her love, the guy? She is paying the price for the trust she gave to her love. But the world will not blame or condemn the guy who ruthlessly used her and ruined her.

This is such a multi layered issue..

One, no proper sexual education and awareness for the teenagers. No healthy way of understanding the consequences of the act itself. STDs, pregnancies...

Second, unhealthy and unnecessary importance to the "Virginity" of the girl. Why the double standards? What about Navya? Does she not deserve happiness? Why would she has to pay the price for one innocent mistake? What about rape survivors? Why do we need to condemn them? I hate that term "Izzzat loot gayi"...I mean come on. What do you mean by izzzat and why does it have to be associated to the girl's intimate parts? I would say the guy, the criminal who has shamed everyone. If anyone has lost izzat, its him.

Third, why the abortion is bad in general? It should be an option available legally and morally to the girl. Having a kid or not, should be the choice of only the girl's or if the guy is sharing the burden, then of both of them. Society has no say in it. And Law should not have any say in it.

It is difficult to stop crimes. Yes, what was done to Navya was a crime. It should be treated as such. But what is more important is to create a society, which has empathy, which creates survivors out of victims, where the victims can breath and be able to lead a normal life, and not degrade the victim. Are we there yet? No. I don't think so.

Love
MD


thanks and yes it did come from the heart. Navya's plight touched a chord.
Its unfair to say the least. And seventeen is not the age to face the world, pregnant and alone.
Yes...as u rightly say..its a huge multi layered issue with no defined solutions. The lack of sex education in such countries is appalling and leads to such immense crisis. If only we take better care of our generation next. What you hear from friends or cousins, read here and there or glean from shows or movies, search from banned sites is not enough...its not the whole truth. And half truths are dangerous.
About the way women and their virginity and their honor are treated in majority countries of this progressive world...the least said the better. We are at the best second class citizens and at the worst less useful than animals. About rape survivors...I don't even want to go there...nope...cause I feel so inadequate, so redundant, so ashamed and so furious about these norms, these outdated inhuman self destroyed rules.
Changing the law is still possible, but changing the fabric of a society takes some doing. Are we there yet, no...not even close, we have not even started...the fight for women will always be a work in progress...
Abortion is every woman's right, whether she exercises it or not is her choice. Cause bringing a child, a life totally dependent on you in this world, is a huge responsibility and if you are not ready to put your childs needs before yours...you end committing a bigger crime. Every child has a right to be loved, cherished, respected and protected..and if a mother/parent cannot give the same, better not bring the child in this world.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: eveline

And I can't blame you for that...even I feel that had the cvs used some logic and restraint in penning down her character, the audiences would have surely empathized with Navya more. What happened today would have been a huge turning point, if Navya was not so difficult to digest in the first place...

Yes, she did bring it on herself. We can call her all kinds of fool but yet...my heart does go out to her...foolishness or plain stupidity does not require a life's penance...
Navya Nandini conversation today defined friendship so perfectly...friends don't judge, they simply stand by you...fortunate to have a friend like her!! Kudos to the cvs to raise another important issue like teen pregnancy which is dangerously on the rise, hope they do justice to this and not bring some logic defying twist in the tale.
And I see no light at the end of this tunnel, no solution to this problem...there seems to be no way out as all roads lead to despair!!


Agreed, Navya was stupid or she made stupid choices. But it does not require a life time of misery.

We accept Manik after all the mistakes he has done. Then we can definitely accept Navya.

Love
MD
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: eveline

thanks and yes it did come from the heart. Navya's plight touched a chord.

Its unfair to say the least. And seventeen is not the age to face the world, pregnant and alone.
Yes...as u rightly say..its a huge multi layered issue with no defined solutions. The lack of sex education in such countries is appalling and leads to such immense crisis. If only we take better care of our generation next. What you hear from friends or cousins, read here and there or glean from shows or movies, search from banned sites is not enough...its not the whole truth. And half truths are dangerous.
About the way women and their virginity and their honor are treated in majority countries of this progressive world...the least said the better. We are at the best second class citizens and at the worst less useful than animals. About rape survivors...I don't even want to go there...nope...cause I feel so inadequate, so redundant, so ashamed and so furious about these norms, these outdated inhuman self destroyed rules.
Changing the law is still possible, but changing the fabric of a society takes some doing. Are we there yet, no...not even close, we have not even started...the fight for women will always be a work in progress...
Abortion is every woman's right, whether she exercises it or not is her choice. Cause bringing a child, a life totally dependent on you in this world, is a huge responsibility and if you are not ready to put your childs needs before yours...you end committing a bigger crime. Every child has a right to be loved, cherished, respected and protected..and if a mother/parent cannot give the same, better not bring the child in this world.


Yes, society cannot be changed at once. But what we can do is definitely start changing our homes. We can influence our children and make way for the changes in the society at large.
In spite of all these things in the society, I have not given up hope. Because, we are way better than what we were a decade back or two decade back. Long way to go, but still there is hope...all is not lost yet.

Love
MD
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: eveline

Maybe and maybe not...the answer here will never be the same, each individual bringing a new angle to this problem. Agree that the mother and child will be branded for life. There life will be a living hell as society is very unforgiving for these so called moral sins...but...

In all honesty, I only have questions that I shared, wish I had answers too...

i also dont have a fixed opinion about it... getting physical is not a bad thing..
also i didnt like navya blaming harshad completely. surely he used her but both of them were equally responsible for what happened.. honestly speaking i dont think navya was ever in love with harshad. there was nothing between them which can make her fall in love with him. she dont even know him enough to love him... he didnt force her to sleep with him.. she made a choice... everyone warned her about him but she was too blind... if harshad broke her trust she also broke her parents trust...
some mistakes will change your life forever and u can only blame urself...
one of the reasons i think she should abort the child is coz the child is a mistake that she did coz of her stupidity... a child should be bought up in a healthy environment... how will he/she feel when they come to know that they were a mistake and his/her father wanted to kill them... also the society will only fill their mind with negativity...
also india is an over populated country encouraging teenage pregnancy is not good...
am against abortion among married couple but this case is different... navya and harshad are teenagers they are literally kids they may not be able to raise the child properly... many of their dreams and ambitions will be sacrificed due to a child and may be in future they will regret having the child and blame the child for it... we have seen a lot of cases like that on gumrah , webbed and other crime based shows...

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Muggle_Diaries


Agreed, Navya was stupid or she made stupid choices. But it does not require a life time of misery.

We accept Manik after all the mistakes he has done. Then we can definitely accept Navya.

Love
MD



NO NO offcourse whatever Navya has done she does not deserve this whole life of misery...I hope and pray that no girl should go through what she is suffering now.


But I personally don't like Navya's character..she is selfish...she doesn't deserve a friend like Nandini...who is loyal and soo selfless

Nandini supported Navya from the very beginning, Nandini took on Fab5's wrath only because of her and how did she repay that??? by locking her on a room because her boyfriend wants to beat up another guy????she let jerkshad disrespect Nandini infront of herself...what kind of best friend allows that???

Thats because Navya only thinks about herself and only herself...

Navya was never ever there for Nandini...On musicana night when Nandini fell apart...where was she??? why was Dhruv consoling nandini when Navya is her best friend?????there are lots of similar instances...like Navya stood Nandini up during diwali party..Navya was supposed to be at Manik's place at 8 pm with Nandini but Navya stood her up because of Jerkshad...we didn't mind at that time coz we got a MaNan scene...but thats not what best friends do... she should atleast hv the common decency of letting Nandini know that she wont be there...its not dark ages..everyone has mobile phones

Recently during new years party Nandini invited her and she straight forward said no..but when she learned Aliya will be there she agreed...She is still thinking about herself...

and Nandini is like i should check on Navya is she alright?? Navya are you akay?? Navya are you happy??Navya Navya Navya

And today Nandini showed what true friendship is...unconditional support and love. One line i particularly liked of navya is when she said, "Nandini you are always right so I was ashamed to share this with you" Thank you Navya for saying this...you should be ashamed...

pesonally I would never want a best friend like Navya..

anyways

sorry for deviating from the main topic...

but moral of the story is I am sad for Navya but i dont like her, sorry.


guys im not a writer like you guys I just tried to explain as best as I can hope it made sense a bit

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: dushturain



NO NO offcourse whatever Navya has done she does not deserve this whole life of misery...I hope and pray that no girl should go through what she is suffering now.


But I personally don't like Navya's character..she is selfish...she doesn't deserve a friend like Nandini...who is loyal and soo selfless

Nandini supported Navya from the very beginning, Nandini took on Fab5's wrath only because of her and how did she repay that??? by locking her on a room because her boyfriend wants to beat up another guy????she let jerkshad disrespect Nandini infront of herself...what kind of best friend allows that???

Thats because Navya only thinks about herself and only herself...

Navya was never ever there for Nandini...On musicana night when Nandini fell apart...where was she??? why was Dhruv consoling nandini when Navya is her best friend?????there are lots of similar instances...like Navya stood Nandini up during diwali party..Navya was supposed to be at Manik's place at 8 pm with Nandini but Navya stood her up because of Jerkshad...we didn't mind at that time coz we got a MaNan scene...but thats not what best friends do... she should atleast hv the common decency of letting Nandini know that she wont be there...its not dark ages..everyone has mobile phones

Recently during new years party Nandini invited her and she straight forward said no..but when she learned Aliya will be there she agreed...She is still thinking about herself...

and Nandini is like i should check on Navya is she alright?? Navya are you akay?? Navya are you happy??Navya Navya Navya

And today Nandini showed what true friendship is...unconditional support and love. One line i particularly liked of navya is when she said, "Nandini you are always right so I was ashamed to share this with you" Thank you Navya for saying this...you should be ashamed...

pesonally I would never want a best friend like Navya..

anyways

sorry for deviating from the main topic...

but moral of the story is I am sad for Navya but i dont like her, sorry.


guys im not a writer like you guys I just tried to explain as best as I can hope it made sense a bit


Sweety,

I got your point of view. 😃 and completely agree with you. I personally do not like Navya either, for all the reasons you have mentioned. She is not a good friend, single minded, selfish. As you said, she might not actually be in love with Harshad. But, her mistake was she did believe in him.
She got carried away with the revenge on FAB5. They did put her in dustbin for so long after all.

Her revenge for FAB5 blinded her to Nandini's advises, Harshad's mistakes. She could not even see where she is going wrong. In a way, she did put herself in this position.

Hopefully, this rock bottom will be her redemption.

Love
MD
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thank you MD for understanding my view of Navya...


I hope cvs are upto their job of taking the correct and right decision on shaping up Navya's life from now on. Hope they wont take any chicken way out of this mess ...they need to convey a strong message to society as well as all the unfortunate girls out there...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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First of all Hatts off to u for making this post 👍🏼

It is indeed something to think about.The best thing about KY2 and why i love this show the most is not only just because of Manan (although they are the main reason that made me watch this show) but also cos of all the complex and delicate things it covers.

Teenage pregnancy is the wost nightmare ever that too when the guy turned out to be the world's biggest jerk ! 😡 ..Yes Navya was blindsided by her foolish love for harshad but the price she is paying for that one mistake is huge and it ruined her entire life and aspirations 🥺.
She is a small town girl who is too naive and trusts ppl blindly.


One of the highlights of yesterday's episode was infact Navya.It takes so much of courage and guts to come out in the open and admit that she is pregnant and exposed the evilness of Harshad in trying to abort her baby without her knowledge.From being a happy fun loving girl she has now become a depressed girl who is unsure of her life and future! All because of falling in love with a wrong guy who used her.She was too blindsided by love that she dint realize her mistake of sleeping with him until its too late.She was so carried away that she dint listen even to her best friend Nandini who was trying to help her see her mistake of trusting harshad.She went as far as to lock away her friend.But she did love her cos in that same lock scene she will open the door when she thought nandini was hurt.Am not a fan of Navya for what she did but being a girl it is sad to see her in a situation like this.

However i loved how Nandini stood by her and gave her the strength and courage to speak out.She acted as a true friend and which is very much what Navya needs right now.Not somehow who will judge her for her mistakes but who will love her and try to help her in her difficult times.And i absolutely loved their conversation!

Another thing i love about this show is the portrayal of strong unbreakable bond between friends be it among fab 5 or Nandini-Navya.That's just applaud worthy.
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