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Posted: 10 years ago
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This, this, this. It hurts me on such a deep level to see Nandini go through this. She never chose to be a part of this mess, she doesn't deserve any of it. The girl who always chose lightness over dark, who chose to believe in the good of people, who has never wished hurt on a single soul doesn't deserve to go through this - all alone. It is as if her goodness and her maturity has made her unreal to the people around her - they just doesn't see her as an actual person with feelings anymore. Manik, Dhruv, Navya - everyone has turned their backs away from her hurt, her pain. Each of them self-involved on a different level.
In all this mess, Manik's head is full of Nandini but he just isn't thinking about her person. In his grand plan of balidan, Nandini is collateral damage. Her feelings are just not registering for him. Mindlessly he calls her stupid and laughs at her naivete not even realizing the impact of his words, not seeing how he is making her heavy with the weight of his lies, making her relive the hurt again and again and again. He is not doing it out of maliciousness but that's the worst part - he doesn't want to hurt her, he just isn't thinking about her as a human capable of her own feelings. Capable of feelings things he doesn't want her to feel. For Manik, Nandini must hate him but in a very specific way. Believe only in the lies I want you to believe in, don't question the truths I don't want you to question. Wait, turn around. No forget I ever said that. Wait, let me touch you like I fcking worship you. No, go away. Forget I ever did that. Manik can just continue being Manik. He can break her heart and then just refuse to go away...because Nandini kaunsi insaan hai? Nandini toh kabhi nahi samjhegi.
Dhruv. He has put Nandini on such a pedestal that he can't even see her anymore. His proposal made Nandu lose the one person she thought she still had. Sweet Dhruv who didn't change on her. Now, she'll have to carry the burden of his love around with her. In a moment when she just needs a true friend by her side, Dhruv's proposal made her lose another one.
Navya. Same old, same old. Nandini is close to breaking down every time she talks but she couldn't care enough to see.
Nandini will not let this break her. She won't. This isn't the first time she has been abandoned by the ones she loved and had to pick up her pieces and just move on, because darkness is not an option. Fall down seven, stand up eight. But, there is only so much hurt a person can take. This heartbreak of hers will define her for life. Nandini doesn't trust herself anymore and there is no going back from that.

I think I needed to get this out because Nandini is my emotional connect to the show and just that one shot of her breaking down by herself in the corridor, with people watching her, realizing how completely alone she is - ugh.


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Posted: 10 years ago
#12
Finally unresed Pg 1.. I always seem last to the party these days.. sigh!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: 13thwish

Yayyy.. I did it again.. my greatest childish joy this is.. commenting on the 1st page of your posts😳

Ummm okay, thinking cap on now.. maybe it's just me but I felt incredibly optimistic after today's episode for several reasons..
When she said to Manik "I don't trust my own judgments anymore", she sounded conflicted.. yes of course, she wanted to lash out at him (and God, that was an effective choice of words, if he knows her then she knows him too, subconsciously maybe, but she chose the most perfect way to do it) but underlying her words was her confusion, because what her rational mind was telling her, her instincts and judgment were negating.. and she could feel it.. which is why, once she looked in his eyes, she grew silent..
She thinks of him, she cries for him, she is angry with him but she does not hate him.. True, it is not her nature to hate anyone so that makes sense but then if she truly believed he were evil, she would feel disgusted by him.. the way she does Harshad, now that she has seen his real face..
Baba's memories would make her feel angry, not fill her with longing.. his touch would make her feel dirty, not give her solace.. his name would feel like a curse, not a prayer..
She wouldn't listen to him when he advised her not to trust in Nyonika, she would've been afraid to fall if she didn't expect him to catch her, she wouldn't stand there silently letting him free her foot, she wouldn't lash out at him knowing her words can still wound him, she wouldn't look up at a party expecting him to be watching her and she wouldn't bother to correct him if she didn't know he would listen..
Bottomline is, Nandini Murthy KNOWS her monster.. regardless of whatever he is saying right now, she knows the man he is.. so deep down inside for her, nothing has changed.. They still 'see' each other, they still 'hear' each other, they still 'matter' to each other, above all else..
Her hurt is mainly because she doesn't understand yet the 'why' of it all yet and that is clouding her mind, taking away her peace..
Her faith is shaken and her fireflies are lost.. but is her love really gone? Is her trust really broken? No, it is an intrinsic part of her that will relentlessly guide her to the truth.. maybe the loss of her fireflies is a good thing.. because this time when she finds her heart's desire she will to have trust her own inner voice to know that this real.. this this true.. this is forever.. and she will be a better, wiser and stronger person for it.. all her best qualities enhanced by the flames of this separation, this introspection, this deeper learning of him and herself..and her belief, when restored will be durable in a way never to shatter again..

Side note: I didn't really feel like talking about Dhruv above and disturbing the flow of it all, but I even liked the proposal.. mostly just glad it's over.. yes, she did have to console him and she might feel a slight weight of guilt on her heart, wondering whether she encouraged him but to me that is insignificant because his influence on her is insignificant.. she values him as a friend, someone who has been kind to her, but he does not effect her.. move her..his feelings will never overwhelm her and in fact the only thing his 'proposal' led to was her own silent acknowledgment of where her heart's loyalties still lay.. I doubt it will really change their equation in any way because it lacked depth in the first place.. she hardly looks at him and he hardly listens to her.. the personification of obliviousness, this 'friendship'😆



I fail to see what the beauty of having first reply on my post is 😆

Khair, lemme talk about Dhruv factor first. Yes, Dhruv doesn't affect her. Yes, she's so over Dhruv mattering in that life altering way. Pehle he used to be center of all her thoughts, she sought him, she wanted his company. But that ended long before MaNan started. When she got the chance to approach him, she approached him as a friend. It's not only Fab5 for whom friendship means a lot. Nandini values friendship as well, that's why she understands Fab5's bond and always encourages either Dhruv or Manik to not let that bond be damaged for any reason. So yeah, Dhruv isn't a too affecting factor of her life but he's the stable factor of her life. In Dhruv, in his light, she finds some solace. That not all is bad. That there is hope. That light can dwell in the darkest of the corners. Her first reaction seeing Dhruv today was annoyance but when it registered to her that it's Dhruv, she immediately felt guilty and corrected her tone. It's Dhruv, the sweet harmless guy who only wished good for. Long before they became friends, he was there as her support. And she still associates that selfless support with Dhruv. In Dhruv she finds someone she can count on. Dhruv isn't someone she'll seek out when in trouble but she wouldn't be surprised if Dhruv finds her in her lowest. He's just someone she just knows will bring some much needed comfort in the havoc of things. Yeah, it's not friendship in the most logical sense because they aren't friends. But for the lack of any better word, they just call it friendship. Dhruv, for her is the living proof of strength that she got in her lowest times. And for that, he's special for her. And she doesn't want to lose that. She wants him to be like that always. So when he dropped the 'love' bomb on her, expecting more from her..she realized that she is on the verge of losing something which she never wanted to change.

Now.

It's not like I am pessimistic, I am rather very much excited to see how Nandini will shape up, what MaNan will go through now. I don't think she was conflicted regarding anything, Nandini is still being the same blunt girl with Manik that she always was. Whereas before she used that bluntness to spell out his traits to him, now she's telling stuff about herself which basically contradicts all that he knows and cherishes about her. She doesn't hate Manik but she surely doesn't have any soft corner for him right now. The part which is so deeply connected to him makes her continue crying in front of him, allow her tears to fall on his hands as he marks yet another part of her, before the aching part of her hurt takes over and she walks away to rub her tears furiously, vowing to not cry for him. I don't think she's thinking about the 'whys' of his actions today, she did that yesterday when she openly asked him why he did that to her? This stage of her is the mourning stage where she has to deal with the last of the things before she gains more control over herself and move on..

I agree on the fireflies part. Now that she has lost the thing which tells her where true love lies, she's only got herself to make judgements. Despite the loss of her fireflies, when she'll experience her body, heart, and soul reaching out to Manik and finding peace in him...that'd be the biggest sign of who her true love actually is. But for that to happen a long road has to be passed. I believe that the fireflies will come back but this time, they'll glow when the unsaid will be said. Not just at the mere prospect of it..

Abhi she's too broken and it'll take time on her side and patience from Manik's for her to be strong again. If he expects that she'll be up and back to normal in a jiffy then Baba is in need of some serious wake-up calls..
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Posted: 10 years ago
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More than Cabir I think Manik needs a baba 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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This just hit me - he used to crib that she never smiled for him and saved all the frowns for just him. Now just when she was reveling in the happiness , smiling to her warmth- he shut it out. Took it all away...Beauty and the Beast.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: charminggenie

This just hit me - he used to crib that she never smiled for him and saved all the frowns for just him. Now just when she was reveling in the happiness , smiling to her warmth- he shut it out. Took it all away...Beauty and the Beast.



"Dhruv, you better make her smile. I swear."

I know this line deserves another topic of its own because GOD, I freakin' died when he said that. Nandini's smile is the first thing which got him so obsessed with her. My heart broke when he said this line, it seemed to me like he's remembering all the times he saw her smiling with Dhruv and is forgetting all the times she smiled a much more brighter smile for him. Manik can't you see...the way you made her smile, when someone loses that smile..no other smile can ever mean the same.

Marked. So marked..
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: lostmymusic.



"Dhruv, you better make her smile. I swear."

I know this line deserves another topic of its own because GOD, I freakin' died when he said that. Nandini's smile is the first thing which got him so obsessed with her. My heart broke when he said this line, it seemed to me like he's remembering all the times he saw her smiling with Dhruv and is forgetting all the times she smiled a much more brighter smile for him. Manik can't you see...the way you made her smile, when someone loses that smile..no other smile can ever mean the same.

Marked. So marked..


This !! All of it!!

He was frustrated, desperate to make her smile but he doesn't realize that it was him who made her smile- the true one which had her light shining the brightest. Just like her fireflies he has taken that smile...and that is why Dhruv will never be able to make her smile...she just cannot...because it belongs to him. Like she once said, he cannot control her smiling, it just happens...and it happened for him, just him.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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gah double post . But Nandu needs all the love, Cabir asap and maybe her chacha -chachi again. When she was talking about Navya with Dhruv, it was as if she was seeing her go through the cycle again. The pain.
Edited by charminggenie - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: lostmymusic.



LOL.. because its 'YOUR' post na Mais.. I thought my love letter made it abundantly clear what that means to me😉😳

@Bold:I understand that Dhruv has been nice to her.. but 'count on him'??? When can she do that? The only time he's stood up for her it's been Manik, n that worked BECAUSE it was Manik!😆 But other than that, he doesn't know her at all. she has as much connect with him as that dummy he gave her.. She is a kind person, so this will weigh on her heart but other than that she is not going 'lose' him.. cuz there wasn't anything there to lose in the first place..

By conflicted, I didn't mean that she is actively thinking about his actions or trying to analyze his behavior.. Most definitely, she is still in the mourning stage and as hurt as can be.. All I'm saying is, instincts never lie.. and they are subconscious besides, so we have no control over them.. it is this which is confusing her..because trust is not built by words and so cannot be broken by words alone..
Every time a situation arises, her instinct will always be to trust him, regardless of what her rational mind says.. this does not mean she has a 'soft corner' for him as you say.. because she is too angry and disappointed for that.. it only means that the 'marked' Nandini (in your words), when in doubt will follow her heart and it will lead her straight to him..always.. because that is who they are.. they are defined by each other now.. they just don't realise it..

Absolutely, there is a long, long way to go before reconciliation and that is the way it should be.. because actions have consequences and Baba needs to learn that the hard way.. I do not expect her to forgive and accept him easily.. he better work very hard for it.. it just reassures me that in the interim, they haven't really 'lost' each other.. and that come what may, they will find each other in times of need..

Definitely the fireflies will return..they are one of the core concepts of the show.. you are probably right, they will return when the unsaid is finally said

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Originally posted by: 13thwish



LOL.. because its 'YOUR' post na Mais.. I thought my love letter made it abundantly clear what that means to me😉😳

@Bold:I understand that Dhruv has been nice to her.. but 'count on him'??? When can she do that? The only time he's stood up for her it's been Manik, n that worked BECAUSE it was Manik!😆 But other than that, he doesn't know her at all. she has as much connect with him as that dummy he gave her.. She is a kind person, so this will weigh on her heart but other than that she is not going 'lose' him.. cuz there wasn't anything there to lose in the first place..

By conflicted, I didn't mean that she is actively thinking about his actions or trying to analyze his behavior.. Most definitely, she is still in the mourning stage and as hurt as can be.. All I'm saying is, instincts never lie.. and they are subconscious besides, so we have no control over them.. it is this which is confusing her..because trust is not built by words and so cannot be broken by words alone..
Every time a situation arises, her instinct will always be to trust him, regardless of what her rational mind says.. this does not mean she has a 'soft corner' for him as you say.. because she is too angry and disappointed for that.. it only means that the 'marked' Nandini (in your words), when in doubt will follow her heart and it will lead her straight to him..always.. because that is who they are.. they are defined by each other now.. they just don't realise it..

Absolutely, there is a long, long way to go before reconciliation and that is the way it should be.. because actions have consequences and Baba needs to learn that the hard way.. I do not expect her to forgive and accept him easily.. he better work very hard for it.. it just reassures me that in the interim, they haven't really 'lost' each other.. and that come what may, they will find each other in times of need..

Definitely the fireflies will return..they are one of the core concepts of the show.. you are probably right, they will return when the unsaid is finally said



Wish, you misinterpreted the bold line. Maybe I couldn't explain fully. When I said that Nandini counts on Dhruv, it's not in a "savior" kind of way. Dhruv has never been Nandini's savior in the typical terms. He doesn't fight her battles for her. He gives her the strength to fight her battles on her own. When she's feeling down and she meets him, she finds this new found strength in her to carry on. Ab ye logical hai ya nahin, kya hai ye..idk, but it's there. It's always been. Like I said, Nandini doesn't know nor does she care for the background behind Dhruv's being there for her. For her what matters is that Dhruv is there. And she expected him to remain there. She doesn't seek him, he seeks her. And he finds her when she needs someone to draw strength from the most. Bhale se it was Manik who pushed Dhruv to be there since the beginning, she didn't get strength from Manik. She got strength from Dhruv to fight Manik. I can't undermine this fact.

The thing is, they always listened to each other. Even when they hated each other, their words affected each other. That won't go away. So Nandini not listening to Manik would be OOC of her. The thing with her is that while before she thought behind why he said something, why he did something (which ended in her concluding that he's no Monster), now she's so done with him that she's taking things a bit on face value. I felt that she's so tired that she doesn't even want to argue with him anymore..just anything to get the conversation over..

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